Rev. Moon & Donald Trump: A Dialogue on Healing Division

America stands at a defining moment in its history. The political landscape is marked by unprecedented division, with Republicans and Democrats treating one another less as fellow citizens and more as enemies. Families are split, friendships strained, and communities polarized by an atmosphere of suspicion and hostility. The news cycle thrives on conflict, feeding mistrust, and turning differences into unbridgeable chasms. Many fear that unity has become impossible.

Yet, from a biblical perspective, this struggle is not new. It is the ancient conflict of Cain and Abel, playing out again in modern times. In Genesis, Cain and Abel were called to bring offerings before God. Abel’s sacrifice was accepted, but Cain’s was not. Out of jealousy and resentment, Cain rose up and killed his brother. This tragedy was not inevitable—if Abel had loved Cain and Cain had humbled himself, their unity could have brought joy to God and opened the path of restoration.

The Bible shows that history has often repeated this same dynamic. Cain represents those farther from God, often resentful or hostile, while Abel stands closer to God, chosen not for his own sake, but to love and lift Cain. Abel’s mission is not to dominate or humiliate Cain, but to melt his heart through sacrificial love. Only when Abel fulfills this role can unity be achieved, and God’s will advance.

Today, Republicans and Democrats stand as Cain and Abel in America’s providence. Republicans, in the Abel position, are called not merely to win elections but to embody a spirit of selfless leadership that embraces Democrats as brothers and sisters. The question is not, “How can one side defeat the other?” but rather, “How can they unite as one family under God?”

It is in this light that we imagine a dialogue between Rev. Sun Myung Moon and President Donald Trump—a providential conversation rooted in biblical wisdom about Cain and Abel. Like Joseph forgiving his brothers, like Lincoln calling for malice toward none, the key lies not in destruction but reconciliation. For only through Abel’s sacrificial love can America heal, and in healing, take its place as a nation called by God to guide the world.

(Note: This is an imaginary conversation, a creative exploration of an idea, and not a real speech or event)

Topic 1: Cain and Abel Unity (The Foundation of Substance)

Scene Setting:
It is a quiet evening in the Oval Office. The air feels heavy, as though history itself is waiting for the words to come. President Trump, burdened by division in the nation, sits across from Rev. Sun Myung Moon. The elder statesman of faith leans forward, eyes kind yet penetrating.

Rev. Moon:
“Mr. President, America stands at a crossroads. The nation is torn by division, mistrust, and hostility. Republicans and Democrats glare at one another as if they were mortal enemies. But what you must understand is that this struggle is not new. It is as old as the first brothers of the Bible—Cain and Abel.”

Trump (leaning back, arms folded):
“Yes, Reverend. I’ve said it many times—our country has never been this divided. The hatred is unbelievable. The media attacks me nonstop, Democrats fight me at every turn. Sometimes it feels like half the country wants me gone. Are you saying this is the same story as Cain and Abel?”

Rev. Moon (nodding):
“Yes. In Genesis, Cain and Abel both brought offerings before God. Abel’s offering was accepted, but Cain’s was not. Instead of humbling himself and learning from Abel, Cain allowed jealousy and resentment to fester. In his anger, he struck and killed his brother. That tragedy set a pattern for history. The same struggle repeats itself—one side closer to God’s heart, one side filled with resentment. But here is the truth: Cain did not have to kill Abel, and Abel did not have to fall. If Abel had truly embraced Cain, if Cain had humbled himself, both could have stood together before God. That is the lesson for America today.”

Trump (frowning, thoughtful):
“So you’re saying Republicans are Abel, Democrats are Cain. But Reverend, Cain killed Abel. That doesn’t sound like good news for my side.”

Rev. Moon (smiling gently):
“Cain always strikes Abel first. That is the law of fallen history. But God’s plan is not for Abel to be destroyed—it is for Abel to win Cain’s heart. Abel does not exist for himself. He exists for Cain. The Bible shows us this pattern again and again. Joseph, though betrayed by his brothers, embraced them in Egypt. David, though pursued by Saul, spared his life. Jesus prayed for those who crucified Him. Each story shows the same truth: Abel’s role is to love Cain, even when Cain hates him.”

Trump (leaning forward, voice lowered):
“But Reverend, that’s tough. They call me every name in the book—racist, dictator, criminal. They even try to put me in jail. And you’re saying I should love them anyway?”

Rev. Moon:
“Yes. Abel must love Cain more than himself. This is not weakness—it is the greatest strength. Anyone can strike back. Only a man of God can forgive first. That is why Joseph is remembered as righteous. That is why Lincoln is remembered as great. After the Civil War, he could have punished the South harshly. Instead, he spoke of malice toward none, charity for all. That spirit healed the Union. And you, Mr. President, stand in a similar position today.”

Trump (nodding slowly):
“I see. So if Republicans only fight to win, we lose the bigger battle. But if we love even those who hate us, we can bring the country together. That’s real winning.”

Rev. Moon:
“Exactly. Cain does not expect love from Abel. When Abel forgives first, when Abel serves even those who despise him, Cain’s heart begins to melt. That is what I call the foundation for reconciliation. Without it, division deepens and history repeats the tragedy of Genesis. But with it, America can heal—and not only heal itself, but shine as God’s nation for the world.”

Trump (after a pause, voice firm):
“Reverend, you’ve given me a lot to think about. I’ve always believed in fighting hard. But maybe the harder fight is forgiveness. If I can carry Democrats as brothers, not enemies, maybe we really can make America whole again.”

Rev. Moon (smiling with fatherly pride):
“Yes, Mr. President. That is the path of Cain and Abel. Love Cain. Melt his heart. Build unity not through domination, but through sacrifice. This is the will of God. And if America can do this, its destiny will shine brighter than ever before.”

Topic 2: How Abel Should Love Cain

Scene Setting:
It is the next day. Rev. Moon and President Trump meet again, this time in the quiet of the White House Rose Garden. The sun is setting, painting the sky with gold. The sound of birds softens the air. The conversation now moves deeper: what does it actually mean for Abel to love Cain?

Rev. Moon (gesturing to the garden around them):
“Mr. President, yesterday we spoke of Cain and Abel. We saw that Republicans and Democrats stand in that position today. But there is a crucial question we must answer: what does it mean for Abel to love Cain in practice?”

Trump (sighing):
“That’s the question, Reverend. You know me—I’m a fighter. I know how to win battles. I’ve fought business competitors, political rivals, the media, even whole institutions that wanted me gone. But loving those who want to destroy me? That feels impossible. What does it look like?”

Rev. Moon (smiling gently):
“Loving Cain does not mean surrendering to evil. It means using your strength for the sake of reconciliation. The Bible shows this again and again. Joseph forgave his brothers after years of betrayal. He had the power to punish them, but instead he wept and embraced them. David spared Saul’s life when he could have struck him down. Jesus forgave even as He was crucified. Abraham Lincoln, after the Civil War, called for charity for all, not revenge. And Martin Luther King Jr. faced violence but answered with nonviolence. In each case, Abel won by showing love greater than Cain’s hate.”

Trump (pausing, looking down):
“You’re saying it’s not about being weak—it’s about being strong in a different way. Strong enough to forgive when you could fight back.”

Rev. Moon:
“Yes. Abel’s strength is sacrificial love. Cain expects revenge. But when Abel responds with love, it surprises Cain. His anger loses its fuel. That is why Jesus said: ‘If anyone strikes you on the cheek, turn to him the other also.’ It is not weakness—it is God’s weapon against hatred.”

Trump (leaning on the bench, thoughtful):
“Reverend, in business I learned you crush your competition. In politics, you humiliate your opponents. That’s how the world works. But you’re telling me in God’s way, Abel’s job isn’t to crush, but to lift up?”

Rev. Moon (nodding):
“Exactly. Abel’s mission is not to win for himself, but to win for Cain. Abel must carry Cain, love him, and bring him back to God. Without Cain, Abel cannot stand before the Father. This is why the Bible teaches reconciliation above victory.”

Trump (after a pause):
“I see. But Reverend, what about justice? What about all the lies, corruption, and betrayal? If Abel just forgives, doesn’t Cain keep getting away with it?”

Rev. Moon:
“Justice without love becomes revenge. But love without justice becomes compromise. Abel must hold truth firmly while still loving Cain. Joseph did not ignore his brothers’ sins—he confronted them. But he did it with tears, not vengeance. Jesus exposed hypocrisy, but also forgave sinners. Abel loves Cain by holding him accountable with a heart of compassion. Truth and love together are the way.”

Trump (slowly, as if convincing himself):
“So Abel has to be strong, but not for himself. Strong for the people. Strong for the nation. Strong even for his enemies.”

Rev. Moon (smiling, raising a hand):
“Yes, Mr. President. Abel must love Cain more than himself. He must endure insults, absorb hostility, and still embrace his brother. This is the path of restoration. It is not easy—it requires humility and sacrifice. But it is the only way. If Republicans show this heart toward Democrats, if you show this heart as a leader, America can be healed.”

Trump (nodding, more resolute):
“You know, Reverend, I’ve always said I want to make America great again. But maybe greatness isn’t just power or winning. Maybe real greatness is when you can love the people who hate you, and still bring them along.”

Rev. Moon (looking upward):
“Yes. That is true greatness. That is Abel’s greatness. It is the greatness of Christ, of Joseph, of Lincoln, of King. If you can embody that spirit, you will not just lead a party—you will lead a nation into unity. And from there, America will lead the world.”

Trump (after a long silence, softly):
“Then maybe that’s the fight God wants me to win. Not the fight to destroy my enemies—but the fight to love them.”

Rev. Moon (smiling with fatherly warmth):
“Exactly, Mr. President. That is how Abel loves Cain. And when Abel loves Cain, history changes.”

Topic 3: The Dangers of Abel Failing His Role

Scene Setting:
The meeting continues late into the evening. The Oval Office is quiet except for the ticking of a clock. The earlier conversations have stirred President Trump deeply, but Rev. Moon now leans in with greater seriousness. His tone shifts from encouragement to warning.

Rev. Moon (solemnly):
“Mr. President, we have spoken of Abel’s calling to love Cain. But I must warn you: Abel’s role is not guaranteed. Many in history were placed in Abel’s position but failed. If Abel becomes arrogant, self-righteous, or careless, he loses God’s favor and becomes like Cain himself. This danger is very real.”

Trump (frowning, arms crossed):
“So you’re saying it’s not enough to just be in the right position. I could lose it? Even if I started as Abel?”

Rev. Moon (nodding):
“Yes. The Bible is full of such examples. Look at John the Baptist. He was chosen to prepare the way for Jesus. He had authority, recognition, and respect. Yet because of pride and doubt, he failed to unite with the Messiah. His position was lost, and history suffered a terrible setback. Or look at King Saul. He was anointed by God as Israel’s first king. Yet jealousy of David consumed him. Pride drove him to rebellion, and he lost his throne and his life. Even the Pharisees—meant to guide Israel in faith—became arrogant, placing their own pride above God’s heart. Instead of shepherding the people, they opposed the very Son of God.”

Trump (leaning forward, voice low):
“I get it. Pride. That’s what you’re saying. If Abel becomes proud, he loses his role. Reverend, I’ll be honest—people say pride is one of my weaknesses. I speak strongly. I don’t like backing down. Sometimes I push too hard. Are you saying that could ruin everything?”

Rev. Moon:
“Yes. Pride blinds Abel. Remember: Abel’s authority does not come from himself—it comes from God. If Abel forgets this and uses his position for his own sake, he becomes no different than Cain. The Bible says: ‘God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble’ (James 4:6). Abel can only remain Abel through humility.”

Trump (sighs, rubbing his forehead):
“So the danger isn’t just Cain attacking me. The bigger danger is me letting my own pride turn me into Cain.”

Rev. Moon (firm, but compassionate):
“Exactly. Cain’s hostility cannot destroy Abel if Abel stays true to God. But Abel can destroy himself if he loses humility. Think of Joseph. He could have boasted when he became ruler of Egypt, but instead he served both Egyptians and Hebrews with compassion. Or consider Moses. When he struck the rock in anger instead of obeying God, he lost the chance to enter the Promised Land. These are warnings. Abel fails when he forgets his mission to love and instead acts for himself.”

Trump (thoughtful, quieter now):
“That’s heavy, Reverend. I’ve always been proud of being strong, being a fighter. But maybe strength isn’t just about force. Maybe it’s about restraint too. Maybe I need more humility.”

Rev. Moon:
“Yes. True humility does not weaken Abel—it protects him. Pride isolates, but humility invites God’s presence. Abel who humbles himself before God gains power greater than armies. Abel who exalts himself loses everything. America needs you to be Abel, not for your own sake, but for the nation’s healing. If you fall into arrogance, America’s providence will be prolonged, and the people will suffer.”

Trump (after a long pause, slowly):
“So if I stay humble, I stay Abel. If I let pride take over, I lose the mission. That’s the choice.”

Rev. Moon (nodding):
“Yes. The Bible’s history is clear. God exalts the humble and brings low the proud. If you walk in humility, if you remember that you stand not for yourself but for Cain, for the Democrats, for America, then you will succeed. But if you serve yourself alone, you will lose the very position God gave you.”

Trump (firmly, with new resolve):
“Reverend, I hear you. I don’t want to repeat the mistakes of Saul or the Pharisees. If humility is the key to keeping Abel’s role, then I have to learn it. I have to carry Cain not with pride, but with love.”

Rev. Moon (with fatherly gentleness):
“Yes, Mr. President. That is the safeguard. Humility keeps Abel true. Love preserves the mission. Stay vigilant, and you will not fail. But forget this, and history will repeat its sorrow.”

Topic 4: Melting the Heart of the Enemy

Scene Setting:
The next morning, Rev. Moon and President Trump meet again, this time in a quiet prayer room inside the White House. Sunlight pours through a cross-shaped window, casting a soft glow. The conversation turns to the most difficult task for Abel: not just enduring Cain, but melting his heart.

Rev. Moon (softly, gazing at the light):
“Mr. President, we have spoken of Abel’s duty to love and to remain humble. But there is something more: Abel must melt Cain’s heart. Without this, reconciliation is impossible. Abel’s mission is not to destroy Cain, but to transform him.”

Trump (raising an eyebrow):
“Melt his heart? Reverend, that sounds poetic. But these people—politicians, the media, activists—they’re tough. They’re angry. They’re not going to just melt because I say something nice.”

Rev. Moon (smiling gently):
“No, not because of words alone. Cain’s heart melts when he sees Abel’s love is greater than his own hatred. This is the power of sacrificial love, revealed again and again in the Bible. Look at Joseph. His brothers feared he would punish them, but instead he wept and said, ‘You meant it for evil, but God meant it for good.’ Their hatred melted into tears. Look at Jesus. Even a Roman centurion, watching Him suffer on the cross, confessed, ‘Surely this was the Son of God.’ Hatred turned to faith. Abraham Lincoln, after the Civil War, could have punished the South harshly, but instead he called for charity. His mercy softened bitterness and kept the Union alive. Martin Luther King Jr. faced violence but answered with nonviolence, and the conscience of America was stirred. Each showed the power of melting the enemy’s heart.”

Trump (shaking his head slightly):
“Reverend, I’ll admit, I fight back hard. If they punch me, I hit back twice as hard. That’s my nature. But you’re saying I can’t win this way? That the real victory comes by melting their hearts?”

Rev. Moon:
“Yes. Fighting only deepens division. But when Abel endures and answers with love, Cain sees himself in a mirror. His hatred loses its strength. That is why Jesus taught: ‘Love your enemies, pray for those who persecute you.’ This command was not idealistic—it was the strategy of Heaven. Love disarms hatred. Compassion confuses the enemy. Sacrifice opens the way for reconciliation.”

Trump (leaning forward, curious now):
“So what would that look like for me, Reverend? You’re saying I shouldn’t just fight Democrats, the media, the people trying to destroy me. How do I actually melt their hearts?”

Rev. Moon:
“First, by showing you fight not for yourself, but for them too. Speak of unity, not just victory. Show mercy when they expect vengeance. Serve the people who oppose you as if they were your own children. Second, do not let bitterness rule you. If Cain shouts hatred, but Abel remains steady, calm, and compassionate, the world will see the contrast. That will awaken consciences. Third, be bold in truth, but gentle in spirit. Truth without love hardens; love with truth transforms.”

Trump (sitting back, thoughtful):
“I’ve always said America first. But maybe what America really needs first is healing. If I can stand strong in truth, but also speak with compassion, maybe people will see me differently. Maybe even my enemies will start to respect me.”

Rev. Moon (nodding):
“Yes. Respect born of fear does not last. But respect born of sacrificial love endures. Joseph’s brothers bowed not because of his power, but because of his mercy. Jesus won hearts not by the sword, but by the cross. King moved a nation not with bullets, but with love. You must show America and the world that your strength is not for yourself, but for reconciliation.”

Trump (with growing conviction):
“Then maybe that’s the bigger fight. Not just to win elections or crush opposition—but to melt this division, to actually change hearts.”

Rev. Moon (with a gentle smile):
“Yes, Mr. President. That is Abel’s hardest mission, but also his greatest. Melt Cain’s heart, and you do not just win—you restore. America will not only be strong again, it will be whole. And from America’s unity, the world will learn the way of peace.”

Topic 5: National Restoration — Cain and Abel on a Larger Scale

Scene Setting:
It is evening once again. Rev. Moon and President Trump step out onto a White House balcony overlooking the National Mall. The Capitol dome glows in the distance, and the faint murmur of the city fills the air. The conversation now rises from America’s internal conflict to its role on the world stage.

Rev. Moon (gesturing toward the Capitol):
“Mr. President, we have spoken of Cain and Abel as individuals, as families, and as parties. But you must understand—the Cain–Abel dynamic exists also between nations. Just as brothers must reconcile, so too must countries. And America stands at the center of this providence.”

Trump (resting his hand on the railing):
“I’ve always said America should lead. But the world doesn’t always like that. Some say we’re too strong, too dominant. Are you saying America has a biblical role, like Abel among the nations?”

Rev. Moon (nodding):
“Yes. Look at the story of Joseph again. God placed him in Egypt not only to save his own family, but also to feed an entire nation in famine. He became Abel not just for Israel, but for Egypt and beyond. Likewise, America was raised up not just for itself, but to serve the world. When America lives for others, it shines as God’s Abel nation. But when it acts selfishly, it loses God’s blessing.”

Trump (thoughtful):
“So our power isn’t for domination. It’s for service.”

Rev. Moon:
“Exactly. The Bible says, ‘To whom much is given, much will be required.’ God entrusted America with prosperity, freedom, and influence—not for itself, but for the sake of others. After World War II, America helped rebuild nations it once fought—Germany, Japan. That was Abel’s spirit, and it brought prosperity. But when America turns inward, or uses power only for itself, resentment grows, and Cain’s hostility increases.”

Trump (leaning forward):
“But Reverend, it’s not just the world. Even here at home, the division is so deep. If we can’t unite Republicans and Democrats, how can we hope to unite nations?”

Rev. Moon (firmly):
“That is the point. The healing must begin here. If Cain and Abel—the Democrats and Republicans—remain divided, America cannot fulfill its providential role. A house divided cannot stand, nor can a nation divided lead. But if America unites, if it shows the power of reconciliation, it will become a model for the world. Nations will see and follow.”

Trump (quietly):
“So unity at home is the key to peace abroad.”

Rev. Moon:
“Yes. Think of Lincoln. He preserved the Union, not only for America’s sake, but for the future of democracy worldwide. Think of King. His nonviolence inspired not only America, but movements around the globe. When America fulfills its role as Abel, the world takes notice. That is why the struggle between Republicans and Democrats is more than politics—it is providence. It decides whether America can serve as Abel to the nations.”

Trump (looking out at the city lights):
“And if we fail? If America stays divided?”

Rev. Moon (gravely):
“Then the providence is delayed. Other nations will rise, but without God’s guidance, they will not lead toward peace. The world will suffer longer. That is why this moment is so critical. You, Mr. President, stand in a Joseph-like position. You were betrayed, yet lifted up. You must use this position not for revenge, but to reconcile—to bring Democrats and Republicans together, and then guide America to serve the world.”

Trump (after a pause, with resolve):
“So America’s greatness isn’t just about strength or wealth. It’s about whether we can love enough to lead. If I can unite this country, then maybe we can really help the world heal.”

Rev. Moon (smiling with fatherly warmth):
“Yes. That is America’s providential calling: to be Abel to the nations. If America unites, if Republicans and Democrats reconcile as brothers, then America will lead not by force, but by example. And through America, the world will learn the way of peace. That is how God’s Kingdom begins on earth.”

Trump (nodding firmly):
“Then that’s the mission, Reverend. Not just to win America back—but to unite it, so America can unite the world.”

Rev. Moon (raising a hand toward the Capitol):
“Yes, Mr. President. Heal Cain and Abel here, and America will become the light of nations. This is the destiny God has prepared.”

Final Thoughts

Cain and Abel,” Rev. Moon once said, “are not two men buried in the pages of Genesis—they are alive in every era, in every family, in every nation.” This truth is evident in America today. Republicans and Democrats mirror the ancient brothers, locked in rivalry, suspicion, and hostility. Yet God’s will is not for their destruction, but their unity.

The Bible reveals that Abel’s mission is not to claim victory for himself. Abel exists for Cain. Abel’s calling is to absorb Cain’s hostility, endure his accusations, and return only love. This is the biblical path of reconciliation. When Abel humbles himself, loves more than Cain hates, and sacrifices without resentment, Cain’s heart begins to soften. That is how God’s dwelling can come among His people.

Mr. President, Republicans must never forget this principle. If they become proud or self-righteous, they will lose their Abel position. If they treat Democrats as enemies to be crushed, they will fail God’s providence. But if they carry them as brothers—if they forgive, serve, and seek reconciliation—then America will be reborn.

History offers clear examples. Joseph fed his brothers when he could have punished them. Lincoln forgave the South when he could have sought vengeance. King endured blows and jail to awaken the conscience of America. Even Jesus prayed for those who nailed him to the cross. Each of these men revealed Abel’s heart.

The time has come for America to do the same. Republicans and Democrats must stand not as enemies, but as Cain and Abel reconciled. Then America will not only heal itself, but fulfill its role as a nation chosen to guide the world. Just as Joseph saved nations, America must lead with generosity and moral strength.

If America unites under God, the divisions of the world—East and West, North and South—will begin to crumble. The Kingdom of Heaven will not remain a dream, but will take root on this earth. But the key, as always, lies with Abel. Love Cain. Melt his heart. Unite the family. Only then will God’s providence be fulfilled, and His Kingdom of peace shine upon the world.

Short Bios:

Donald J. Trump

The 45th and 47th President of the United States, Trump has faced intense opposition and division during his leadership. In these dialogues, he is placed in the Abel role, navigating hostility while called to lead toward unity and reconciliation for America.

Rev. Sun Myung Moon 

Founder of the Unification movement, Rev. Moon devoted his life to teaching reconciliation through the Cain and Abel principle. He met world leaders across political, religious, and ideological divides, always urging forgiveness, unity, and the vision of “One Family Under God.”