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Introduction by Plan B:
Welcome to this special roundtable series exploring the macro alignment between Bitcoin and the S&P 500. Recently, Bitcoin crossed the $100K mark, right as the S&P approached 6,000. Some call this coincidence. I don’t. I believe it’s a macro mirror—a reflection of liquidity, monetary policy, and market psychology converging.
Bitcoin is not just tracking markets anymore. It’s participating in them. Through five conversations, we’ll unpack how Bitcoin behaves like a high-beta macro asset, how liquidity moves both BTC and equities in tandem, and why $300K Bitcoin isn't fantasy—it’s math, mechanics, and momentum.
This isn’t a prediction. It’s a framework. And in times of chaos, frameworks matter.
Let’s dig in.
(Note: This is an imaginary conversation, a creative exploration of an idea, and not a real speech or event.)
Topic 1: Macro Mirrors: Why $100K BTC Aligns with a 6,000 S&P
Moderator: Lyn Alden
We’re now witnessing Bitcoin stabilizing around $100,000 while the S&P 500 flirts with 6,000. Some see this as coincidence. Others call it convergence. I think it's time we unpack this idea: Is Bitcoin mirroring macro markets—or leading them?
Let me start with this:
How do you interpret Bitcoin reaching ~$100K alongside the S&P at ~6,000? Are we seeing synchronized cycles—or something deeper?
Jeff Booth:
Absolutely deeper. What we’re seeing is the mathematical expression of a broken fiat system. Bitcoin isn’t following the S&P. They're both following global liquidity. Fiat currencies are being debased to preserve existing structures. That debasement flows into asset prices—equities and Bitcoin alike. But Bitcoin, being a scarce asset outside the system, accelerates the impact.
Larry Fink:
To be candid, when BlackRock launched the Bitcoin ETF, we weren’t thinking in terms of "mirroring." But what we saw after was undeniable: institutional capital treated BTC like a high-growth macro asset. As more investors include it alongside equities in portfolios, the correlation strengthens—not because they’re the same, but because they’re now co-owned.
Preston Pysh:
From a systems thinking perspective, this is an expected phase transition. The S&P is driven by earnings and rate expectations. Bitcoin is driven by belief in fiat collapse and freedom from central control. But liquidity is the common denominator. When liquidity expands, both go up—but BTC does it with conviction.
Ray Dalio:
I agree, with a slight nuance. Bitcoin has matured into a recognized asset class. It’s still volatile, still early, but it behaves increasingly like gold did in past debt cycles. That $100K alignment with 6,000 S&P is, to me, a signal that the world is reallocating wealth across both old and new stores of value.
Lyn Alden:
I see this as correlation by design. Global capital always seeks efficiency. Bitcoin's scarcity aligns perfectly with inflationary pressures, while the S&P reflects nominal growth inflated by monetary expansion. They’re not just co-moving—they’re symbiotic reflections of capital's search for safety and upside.
Second question.
If S&P moves to 7,000—a 17% increase—could Bitcoin really go to $300K? And if so, what drives such asymmetric upside?
Preston Pysh:
Without question. Bitcoin is structurally wired for convexity. It’s a call option on monetary policy failure. When capital sees central banks stuck—too much debt, not enough real growth—it chases assets with fixed supply. If the S&P creeps, Bitcoin can leap. That’s its role: high-beta escape valve.
Lyn Alden:
I would frame it in terms of volatility-adjusted flows. Bitcoin absorbs marginal liquidity more aggressively than stocks. A modest increase in risk-on appetite can triple Bitcoin’s price, especially if ETF inflows persist. $300K is not fantasy. It’s flow mechanics at work in a scarce network asset.
Larry Fink:
Institutional portfolios are still underweight Bitcoin. If S&P 7,000 is a signal that risk appetite is returning, you’ll see pension funds, endowments, sovereign wealth funds raise their BTC allocations even modestly. When trillions move inches, Bitcoin jumps miles.
Ray Dalio:
I'd temper the excitement with a reminder: these are debt cycle endgames. Everything is volatile. Bitcoin’s upside is real, but it hinges on continued institutional trust and no major regulation backlash. That said, if we hit 7,000 S&P, the same forces pushing it there—debt monetization and policy—would support BTC rising to $250K–$300K.
Jeff Booth:
What’s asymmetric isn’t just price—it’s truth. Bitcoin reflects a truthful system, while the S&P reflects manipulated incentives. So yes, $300K is possible—but more importantly, it reflects where truth is gaining ground. Bitcoin won’t just go up—it will pull trust away from legacy systems.
Final question.
What does this convergence between Bitcoin and the S&P say about where we are in the financial evolution? Are we witnessing fusion or competition?
Larry Fink:
Fusion. Like it or not, Bitcoin has entered the Wall Street machine. ETFs, custodians, compliance frameworks—it’s now part of the architecture. That doesn’t dilute it. It scales it. We’re watching the next commodity class get institutionalized.
Ray Dalio:
It’s both. Bitcoin offers competition to currencies and governments—but also fusion with portfolios. It’s a hybrid moment. That tension—between state control and free capital—is what defines this decade. Bitcoin stands in that middle ground, holding the line.
Lyn Alden:
This is financial evolution through cohabitation. It’s no longer Bitcoin versus the system—it’s Bitcoin inside the system, changing it from within. As trust erodes in fiat, Bitcoin becomes the lifeboat. But institutions bring the passengers. So yes, convergence is real—and possibly irreversible.
Jeff Booth:
I’ll push back gently. Bitcoin inside the system doesn’t mean it is the system. It’s a Trojan horse of freedom. It exposes fiat fragility while offering a peaceful exit. Fusion is short-term optics. Over time, competition will define the winner.
Preston Pysh:
We’re witnessing a Cambrian explosion in finance. The old system can’t scale. The new one—Bitcoin—is absorbing the energy of collapse and converting it into resilience. It’s not fusion or competition. It’s replacement via adoption. Quiet. Inevitable. Exponential.
Lyn Alden:
What we've explored today isn’t a prediction—it’s a pattern. As Bitcoin hovers around $100K and the S&P touches 6,000, we’re not seeing coincidence. We’re seeing correlation shaped by liquidity, trust, and transformation. Whether this path leads to $300K Bitcoin and $7K S&P isn’t guaranteed—but the map is drawn. The question is: will the world follow it?
Topic 2: High-Beta Truth: Will Bitcoin 3x When S&P Goes +17%?
Moderator: Raoul Pal
Participants: Cathie Wood, Anthony Scaramucci, Alex Krüger, Paul Tudor Jones, Raoul Pal
Raoul Pal:
We’ve seen this story before. Risk-on assets explode when liquidity returns, but few assets move quite like Bitcoin. Today, the S&P could move 17%—say from 6,000 to 7,000. But could Bitcoin 3x from here to $300K? That’s not just volatility. That’s high-beta behavior on steroids.
Let’s start with this:
What makes Bitcoin respond so much more aggressively to macro tailwinds than the S&P or even tech stocks?
Cathie Wood:
Bitcoin is pure innovation, but unlike tech stocks, it’s also monetary infrastructure. It’s programmable, borderless, and its network effect is still in exponential growth. So when capital looks for growth and protection against fiat risk, Bitcoin becomes the first stop. That’s what makes it high-beta—it captures macro fear and future optimism simultaneously.
Alex Krüger:
From a trader's standpoint, BTC has a structurally smaller market cap and thinner liquidity, especially on weekends and across exchanges. That means flows have outsized impact. If a billion flows into BTC versus S&P, it doesn’t just nudge—it slams the price. Combine that with positive sentiment, and you get violent upside.
Paul Tudor Jones:
Bitcoin is the only asset I know that’s both a hedge against the system and a leveraged bet on it collapsing. It’s like buying insurance with a built-in lottery ticket. That optionality makes it incredibly reactive to macro shifts—especially when rates, inflation, and liquidity are all in flux.
Anthony Scaramucci:
It’s psychological too. Bitcoin believers don’t sell easily, and when new capital flows in, it mostly buys from hodlers who won’t part with coins. So the price has to rise significantly to find sellers. That’s why you get sudden 30%, 50%, or even 100% moves in short windows. It’s baked into the culture.
Raoul Pal:
Exactly. It’s not just high beta in the math—it’s high beta in the mindset. Bitcoin reacts like an emotional superconductor in markets that have grown numb.
Next up:
If the S&P reaches 7,000 within 12–18 months, what path or catalysts would support Bitcoin reaching $300K in the same timeframe?
Anthony Scaramucci:
Institutional adoption, plain and simple. We’re seeing the early innings now with ETFs. If just a few pension funds allocate 1–3%, that’s trillions of dollars looking for BTC. The supply side is fixed. That mismatch pushes Bitcoin up fast. Add a Fed pivot, and it’s rocket fuel.
Paul Tudor Jones:
I look at it from a macro risk lens. If real yields start to decline, if inflation surprises to the upside, or if geopolitical shocks continue, Bitcoin becomes attractive not just as a trade, but as a macro allocation. That’s when it moves toward $250K, even $300K.
Cathie Wood:
We model BTC reaching $500K+ long-term. So $300K in the near term is a question of narrative catching up with reality. If AI expands, productivity rises, and central banks begin easing again, investors will seek asymmetric returns. Bitcoin stands alone there.
Alex Krüger:
Technically, Bitcoin likes blow-off tops. These happen after prolonged consolidations. If we stay between $80K–$110K for a few months, then a single macro or liquidity event—say, spot ETFs launching in Asia—could create a parabolic breakout. Price could go vertical toward $300K in just months.
Raoul Pal:
I’m watching global liquidity. That’s the tide. If China stimulates, the Fed pauses, and fiscal spending continues in the West, that’s a triple threat. Bitcoin will absorb that capital far more dramatically than equities. $300K becomes not a ceiling, but a checkpoint.
Final question today:
If Bitcoin behaves like a high-beta macro asset, how should individuals and institutions adapt their thinking and strategy around it?
Cathie Wood:
We encourage clients to treat Bitcoin as a long-term innovation asset, not a trade. Yes, it’s volatile—but so was Amazon. The key is having a time horizon aligned with the technology’s maturity. Allocate, rebalance occasionally, and hold through cycles.
Alex Krüger:
From a trader’s lens: understand volatility. BTC isn’t just high-beta—it’s asymmetric. That means sizing is critical. A 1–5% allocation in a portfolio can still dramatically outperform. But trying to time it day-to-day is dangerous unless you're an expert.
Paul Tudor Jones:
Treat Bitcoin like an early-stage venture bet—one where the exit can be 10x or 100x. You don’t bet the farm, but you also don’t ignore it. For institutions, this is about rethinking hedges in a world where bonds may no longer provide them.
Anthony Scaramucci:
I always tell people: “Don’t miss the obvious.” Bitcoin is high-beta because it’s early. If you were around in 1995 and ignored the internet, you lost big. The same is happening now. Learn, allocate modestly, and stay humble. You don’t need to be first—you just can’t be last.
Raoul Pal:
Brilliant insights. Bitcoin isn’t an anomaly—it’s a signal. The high-beta behavior we’re seeing is how disruption has always looked before it became consensus. The next 17% in equities may not change your life. But the next 3x in Bitcoin just might.
Topic 3: The Liquidity Superhighway: How Global Flows Drive BTC and SPX Together
Moderator: Mike McGlone
Participants: Danielle DiMartino Booth, Luke Gromen, Mark Yusko, Arthur Hayes, Mike McGlone
Mike McGlone:
Liquidity drives everything. When central banks inject capital, it floods into risk assets—from real estate and stocks to crypto and commodities. But Bitcoin responds differently. It behaves like a sponge for liquidity distortions. Today, we’ll explore how Bitcoin and the S&P are moving in tandem, not by coincidence—but by current. Let’s dive in.
First question:
What’s the real mechanism behind Bitcoin and equities moving together during periods of high global liquidity?
Arthur Hayes:
It’s simple: when central banks print, people spend and speculate. That money has to go somewhere, and when real rates are negative or near-zero, assets that don't dilute—like Bitcoin—become attractive. Same with the S&P. It’s not value investing; it’s escape velocity from cash.
Danielle DiMartino Booth:
From a former Fed lens, it’s clear. Every time the Fed intervenes—QE, repo injections, rate cuts—it distorts price discovery. The S&P benefits because of buybacks and earnings leverage. Bitcoin benefits because it’s the furthest asset from policy control. They move together because liquidity overpowers fundamentals.
Luke Gromen:
Debt is the common denominator. As sovereign debt rises, central banks are forced to keep liquidity flowing. That’s why risk assets are rising in sync. The S&P is rising due to nominal growth. Bitcoin is rising because people don’t trust the source of that growth. Same wave, different reasons.
Mark Yusko:
You can think of Bitcoin as the liquidity amplifier. It’s a call option on the Fed’s balance sheet. When liquidity rises, it multiplies the effect. The S&P moves 10–15%, Bitcoin moves 100–200%. It’s not correlation—it’s consequence.
Mike McGlone:
Liquidity is the ultimate tide. When it comes in, all boats rise. But Bitcoin’s boat is lighter, faster, and further from shore.
Second question:
Are we seeing a new monetary era where Bitcoin acts as both a beneficiary and a barometer of global liquidity?
Luke Gromen:
Yes—and that’s a shift of historic proportions. Gold used to be the canary. Now it’s Bitcoin. It reacts faster to liquidity changes. It front-runs monetary decisions. In some ways, it’s becoming the pulse of global risk appetite—and distrust in fiat regimes.
Danielle DiMartino Booth:
I see that shift too. In my Fed days, we looked at bond spreads and M2 growth. Now, I look at BTC. When Bitcoin surges on dovish whispers, that’s a signal. It means the street believes in policy backpedaling—even before Powell speaks.
Mark Yusko:
Bitcoin is the only asset in history with 24/7 global liquidity and no CEO. That makes it a perfect market mood detector. When global liquidity rises, Bitcoin tells you instantly—sometimes before the equity markets even wake up.
Arthur Hayes:
And don’t forget the DeFi side. People borrow against BTC, stake ETH, loop assets—all in real time. That creates a reflexive flywheel. More liquidity fuels more speculation, which increases on-chain leverage. It’s a new kind of monetary ecosystem—responsive, chaotic, and fast.
Mike McGlone:
So Bitcoin isn’t just a liquidity sponge—it’s also a weather vane. It tells us where the wind is blowing before the storm hits equities.
Final question today:
If liquidity is the tide, what happens to Bitcoin and the S&P when the tide goes out again? What should long-term investors be watching for?
Arthur Hayes:
When liquidity dries up, Bitcoin crashes fast. That’s the cost of freedom. It’s not like Apple, which has earnings to buffer drawdowns. But here’s the catch: when liquidity returns, Bitcoin recovers faster. That’s why timing matters. Be greedy when the Fed panics.
Danielle DiMartino Booth:
For equities, liquidity withdrawal means earnings pressure, layoffs, and deflationary risk. For Bitcoin, it means sharp corrections—but also institutional accumulation. Watch for stealth buys during rate hike pauses. Smart money loves those dips.
Luke Gromen:
Debt servicing will force central banks to pivot again and again. Each cycle of tightening will be shorter. Bitcoin may suffer in the short term, but it thrives long term because it’s not built on debt. That’s why I call it asset exile—it grows where fiat fails.
Mark Yusko:
For long-term investors, watch global liquidity indicators: reverse repo levels, TGA drawdowns, balance sheets of major central banks. These matter more than headlines. Bitcoin is long-term monetary truth. The S&P is short-term corporate performance. Know which game you're playing.
Mike McGlone:
We’re entering a phase where understanding liquidity isn’t optional—it’s survival. Bitcoin and the S&P won’t always move together, but when they do, they tell you the truth beneath the narrative. Learn that language, and you won’t get left behind.
Topic 4: Digital Gold or Tech Stock? Why Bitcoin Trades Like Both
Moderator: Michael Saylor
Participants: Balaji Srinivasan, Eric Balchunas, Naval Ravikant, Chamath Palihapitiya, Michael Saylor
Michael Saylor:
Bitcoin is the most misunderstood asset in the world. Is it digital gold? Is it a tech innovation? Is it a bet, a hedge, a revolution? The truth might be: it’s all of them. Today, we’ll explore Bitcoin’s dual identity—how it trades like gold to some, and like a tech stock to others.
Let’s begin:
Why does Bitcoin behave like both a store of value and a high-growth tech asset? Can it be both at once?
Eric Balchunas:
Absolutely. On one hand, institutions categorize Bitcoin as a commodity—just like gold, due to its fixed supply and inflation hedge narrative. On the other, retail and VCs treat it like a growth stock—like a bet on a new internet. This dual classification is what gives it volatility, but also mass appeal.
Balaji Srinivasan:
Bitcoin is software. But it’s also sovereignty. That’s why it feels like a tech stock with political implications. It behaves like gold in times of distrust, and like tech in times of optimism. What bridges both? The network. It grows like a startup, and protects like a vault.
Chamath Palihapitiya:
It’s the only asset I’ve seen that fits in every portfolio narrative. Risk-on, it’s a rocket ship. Risk-off, it’s digital scarcity. That flexibility is rare—and powerful. It behaves like both because it's still early. Eventually, it may settle into one identity. But for now, it’s uniquely bi-directional.
Naval Ravikant:
We’re watching money and code merge. Bitcoin is hard money written in software. That naturally makes it behave like both a hedge and a product. It’s not contradiction—it’s evolution. And markets don’t quite know how to price it yet, which is where the opportunity lies.
Michael Saylor:
Beautifully said. The volatility isn’t confusion—it’s birth. Bitcoin is the first monetary asset to scale as code.
Next question:
Does Bitcoin’s dual identity confuse investors—or help it gain traction across different market segments?
Chamath Palihapitiya:
It helps. Institutions love the gold narrative—it feels safe. Tech folks love the innovation story—it feels exciting. Bitcoin survives because it serves both. Confusion only comes when investors demand it be one thing. In truth, its adaptability is its superpower.
Eric Balchunas:
From an ETF perspective, this duality is a gift. You can market Bitcoin as a digital commodity, like gold—but then show data that it behaves like a high-growth tech equity. That’s why we’re seeing ETF flows from both gold bugs and millennial growth investors.
Naval Ravikant:
It’s not confusion—it’s layered utility. The internet was also confusing at first. Was it a library? A chat room? A stock ticker? All of the above. Bitcoin is money that evolves. Smart investors embrace the ambiguity—it means untapped potential.
Balaji Srinivasan:
This dual identity is a Trojan horse. Legacy finance embraces it as a commodity. But under the hood, it’s programmable revolution. It slips past gatekeepers because it can wear both masks. And that’s how it infiltrates the system—and changes it.
Michael Saylor:
I say let the world argue while we accumulate. Confusion in others creates conviction in those who understand Bitcoin’s true multidimensional nature.
Final question today:
As Bitcoin matures, will it lean more toward the “digital gold” store of value role—or the high-beta tech growth narrative? Or… will it stay both?
Naval Ravikant:
Eventually, it will lean toward digital gold. Scarcity wins. But that doesn't mean it stops innovating. The layer-1 may stabilize, but innovation will shift to Bitcoin-based applications. Store of value below, programmable value above.
Balaji Srinivasan:
I disagree slightly—it’ll stay both. It’s too deeply embedded in tech now. With Layer 2, ordinals, rollups, and even AI integrations, it’s becoming a platform. It may stabilize, yes—but the growth narrative will live on, just one layer higher.
Eric Balchunas:
From a fund flow perspective, I think the digital gold narrative will dominate. Institutions are cautious. They like stability. Bitcoin’s volatility will decline over time, and its correlation to gold will rise. But it’ll still outgrow gold in every way.
Chamath Palihapitiya:
It doesn’t have to choose. The most successful assets don’t. They’re anti-fragile. Bitcoin adapts. When inflation returns, it’s gold. When growth returns, it’s tech. That’s not confusion—that’s versatility. And I’d bet on versatility over purity any day.
Michael Saylor:
To me, Bitcoin is already perfect money. Over time, the world will catch up to that realization. And when it does, they won’t see it as gold or tech. They’ll see it as something that replaces both—with clarity, with finality, and with precision.
Topic 5: Road to $300K: Mapping Bitcoin’s Trajectory to the Next Market Peak
Moderator: Plan B
Participants: Willy Woo, Benjamin Cowen, Fred Krueger, Tuur Demeester, Plan B
Plan B:
We’ve crossed $100K. Now everyone’s asking: where to next? The stock-to-flow model, realized price data, and on-chain momentum suggest we could be headed toward $250K… even $300K. But what would that path look like? Today, we’ll attempt to map it—not as a prediction, but as a probability.
Let’s start here:
What does the data tell us about Bitcoin’s next major cycle peak? Is $300K truly within range—or just hopium?
Willy Woo:
It’s not hopium. If anything, it’s conservative. On-chain demand is rising, long-term holder supply is locked, and we’re seeing ETF flows that didn’t exist in past cycles. In 2021, we hit $69K with no spot ETF and weak global liquidity. Today? We’re structurally stronger—and the ceiling is much higher.
Fred Krueger:
Mathematically, $300K is plausible. Bitcoin moves in multiples, not percentages. The last cycle 20x’d from bottom to top. This one might do less, say 6–10x. If $30K was our true bear bottom, 10x puts us right near $300K. That’s just basic cycle math—no magic.
Benjamin Cowen:
From a risk-adjusted ROI perspective, every cycle gives diminishing returns. So $300K isn’t guaranteed, but it fits the logarithmic trend. If we assume a modest breakout post-halving and a blow-off top in late 2025 or early 2026, that level is absolutely within reach.
Tuur Demeester:
I’d agree. $300K is in line with Bitcoin’s monetization arc. The market is slowly waking up to BTC as pristine collateral, not just a speculative trade. The more it absorbs that role, the higher its fair value climbs. $300K isn’t a fantasy—it’s the price of realization.
Plan B:
Right. My updated stock-to-flow projections show a base target between $250K and $500K for this cycle. $300K sits right in the middle. Based on current scarcity and demand metrics, it’s not “if”—it’s “when.”
Next question:
What specific catalysts—macro, technological, or behavioral—would push Bitcoin toward $300K within this current cycle?
Fred Krueger:
ETF flows, full stop. We’ve already seen billions pour in. But we haven’t seen pension funds or sovereign wealth join the party yet. If just 1–2% of their allocations shift toward Bitcoin, it’s game over. Supply is too tight to absorb that quietly.
Benjamin Cowen:
Rate cuts. If the Fed pivots or slows hikes, liquidity will flow back into risk assets. Combine that with the halving-induced supply shock, and you’ve got a perfect storm. Bitcoin thrives when real yields fall and risk appetite rises.
Willy Woo:
Technological trust matters too. If Layer 2 solutions and scaling tech improve UX—faster wallets, lower fees—retail adoption could spike. And that matters: whales move the price, but retail sustains it. Catalysts don’t always come from policy—they come from usability.
Tuur Demeester:
Behaviorally, watch for generational wealth shifts. Younger investors trust Bitcoin more than banks. As Gen Z and Millennials inherit capital, a growing portion flows into crypto. That’s not just a tailwind—it’s a demographic revolution in motion.
Plan B:
Also, don’t forget global unrest or dollar devaluation. If one major nation-state adopts Bitcoin as a reserve or payment layer—whether out of necessity or innovation—it could serve as a psychological breaking point for the rest of the world.
Final question today:
If Bitcoin reaches $300K in this cycle, what does it mean for the broader financial system—and for the individual investor holding BTC today?
Willy Woo:
It means Bitcoin is now too big to ignore. At $300K, we’re talking about a $6 trillion asset. That shifts global portfolio theory. It forces institutions, governments, and even critics to reconsider their models. For individuals—it means you were early.
Tuur Demeester:
It also signals a shift from speculation to strategy. When BTC is worth $300K, the volatility may drop, but its influence won’t. It will be treated like digital real estate—something you own, stake, borrow against. That changes its role in personal finance forever.
Benjamin Cowen:
Caution though—$300K will bring hype and excess. We’ve seen that before. But for serious investors, this is a time to manage emotions and focus on fundamentals. Zoom out, and realize: this isn’t the top. It’s just another waypoint on a much longer journey.
Fred Krueger:
For the financial system, it means the end of monopoly. Bitcoin’s rise challenges the idea that money must come from governments. It’s the rise of monetary pluralism. That’s a seismic shift—slow at first, then sudden.
Plan B:
To the early believers: $300K isn’t your reward. It’s your responsibility. Because at that point, you don’t just hold an asset—you hold a new form of trust. And how you use it, share it, or protect it will help shape what comes next.
Final Thoughts by Plan B
After hearing from some of the sharpest minds in macro, I’m more convinced than ever: we’re still early.
Bitcoin at $100K aligning with the S&P at 6,000 isn’t random—it’s the beginning of a much larger shift. We’re witnessing the institutionalization of Bitcoin as a macro asset class, behaving with volatility but also with increasing predictability. As liquidity flows, Bitcoin doesn't just rise—it multiplies.
Yes, all models are wrong. But some are useful. And what these five conversations make clear is this: Bitcoin is no longer on the fringe. It’s in the room, sitting at the big table.
Whether it reaches $300K, $500K, or beyond in this cycle depends on macro flows, sentiment, and structure. But the trajectory is clear.
This isn’t about price. It’s about positioning. And if you’re reading this, you’re not late—you’re just getting started.
— Plan B
Short Bios:
Jeff Booth is an entrepreneur and author of The Price of Tomorrow. He advocates for deflationary economics and views Bitcoin as a critical tool for preserving value in an age of exponential technology and fiat currency debasement.
Larry Fink is the CEO of BlackRock, the world’s largest asset manager. Though initially skeptical of Bitcoin, he led BlackRock’s move into crypto, supporting the development of spot Bitcoin ETFs and recognizing growing institutional demand.
Preston Pysh is an engineer, author, and co-founder of The Investor’s Podcast Network. He explains Bitcoin through systems theory and long-term thinking, emphasizing its role in a post-fiat global order.
Ray Dalio is the founder of Bridgewater Associates. While expressing caution, he has acknowledged Bitcoin as a potential store of value and alternative to fiat currencies, particularly in the context of long-term debt cycles.
Mark Yusko is the founder of Morgan Creek Capital Management. A strong Bitcoin proponent, he sees it as a monetary network on par with the early internet, driven by adoption, scarcity, and exponential growth.
Arthur Hayes is the co-founder and former CEO of BitMEX. Known for his provocative essays and macro insights, he presents Bitcoin as a necessary escape valve from monetary overreach and systemic risk.
Michael Saylor is the Executive Chairman of MicroStrategy. He transformed his company’s balance sheet by adopting Bitcoin as a treasury reserve asset and frequently speaks on Bitcoin as a form of digital energy and property.
Balaji Srinivasan is a technologist, investor, and former CTO of Coinbase. He is known for his visionary thinking on crypto, decentralized systems, and the future of digital sovereignty, often framing Bitcoin as both money and escape hatch.
Eric Balchunas is an ETF analyst at Bloomberg and an expert on fund flows and institutional investing. He tracks how Bitcoin ETFs are reshaping traditional finance and making Bitcoin more accessible to mainstream investors.
Naval Ravikant is an angel investor and entrepreneur known for his philosophical takes on wealth, freedom, and technology. He views Bitcoin as a network of trust and a form of digital self-sovereignty.
Chamath Palihapitiya is a venture capitalist and CEO of Social Capital. He was an early investor in Bitcoin and sees it as a hedge against systemic collapse and a cornerstone of financial decentralization.
Willy Woo is an on-chain analyst who studies Bitcoin network behavior through data. He has developed numerous models to track investor sentiment, supply dynamics, and market cycles.
Benjamin Cowen is a quantitative analyst known for his cycle theory and logarithmic regression models in crypto. He takes a cautious, data-driven approach to Bitcoin projections, focusing on long-term momentum.
Fred Krueger is a serial entrepreneur and investor who uses statistical modeling to forecast Bitcoin’s future value. He often explores price dynamics through the lens of historical market behavior and supply shocks.
Tuur Demeester is an economist, early Bitcoin investor, and founder of Adamant Capital. He has written extensively on Bitcoin’s role in global financial transformation and advocates for its long-term adoption as pristine collateral.
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