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Home » Charlie Kirk, Sammy McDonald and Others on Ending Violence

Charlie Kirk, Sammy McDonald and Others on Ending Violence

May 21, 2025 by Nick Sasaki Leave a Comment

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Introduction by Yuval Noah Harari

I don’t come to this table to debate ideology. I come as a historian—someone trained to look beyond this month’s headlines and ask: Where are we heading?

For thousands of years, humans lived in cycles of war, revenge, and sacred violence. We told ourselves stories that justified suffering, so long as it happened to them. But now, with nuclear weapons, AI, and climate collapse looming, we no longer have the luxury of tribalism. The next cycles we repeat could be our last.

That’s why I accepted the invitation to speak alongside people I might disagree with, even profoundly. Because history teaches us that survival isn’t guaranteed—but reinvention is possible.

If we are to break the cycle, we must rewrite the script:
From fear to foresight.
From vengeance to wisdom.
From inherited dogma to conscious evolution.

This conversation is not a conclusion. It is a beginning.

(Note: This is an imaginary conversation, a creative exploration of an idea, and not a real speech or event.)

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Table of Contents
Topic 1: Moral Truth or Tribal Loyalty? — Can We Still Hear Each Other in a Divided World?
Topic 2: Peace or Power? — Rethinking America’s Role in the Middle East
Topic 3: Sacred Rage — When Faith Justifies Violence
Topic 4: Truth Decay — How Can We Trust in the Age of Partisan Reality?
Topic 5: From Blame to Blueprint — How Do We Actually Build Peace?
Final Thoughts by Yuval Noah Harari

Topic 1: Moral Truth or Tribal Loyalty? — Can We Still Hear Each Other in a Divided World?

Moderator: Jonathan Haidt

Jonathan Haidt (moderator):
Let’s begin with what I see as the core breakdown in public discourse: we’re not arguing over facts, but over frameworks. It’s no longer just “What’s true?” It’s “What counts as truth?” When people like Charlie and Sammy confront each other, they’re often moral ships passing in the night.

So let me ask each of you:
Why do people from different sides of the political spectrum seem unable to hear each other anymore?

Sammy McDonald:
Because one side isn’t debating in good faith. When I asked Charlie hard questions, I wasn’t trying to score points—I was challenging moral failures. But what I got in return was moral deflection, not introspection.

This breakdown happens when one side treats truth as flexible and the other side treats it as sacred. There’s no conversation unless we agree that facts—even ugly ones—matter. Until that happens, we’re just yelling across a void.

Charlie Kirk:
I think people like Sammy mistake passion for proof. They weaponize moral outrage without understanding the nuances of geopolitics. Sure, I defend strong borders, law and order, and Israel’s right to self-defense—but that doesn’t mean I lack compassion.

We talk past each other because we ascribe bad intentions to people we disagree with. If we assumed more good faith, we might actually make progress.

Cornel West:
My dear brothers—you're both speaking from pain, and that’s real. But the deeper issue is this: when truth becomes tribal, justice disappears. We've moralized our identities instead of universalizing our compassion. Until we grieve together, we’ll keep tearing each other apart with words.

Yuval Noah Harari:
Our cognitive systems evolved for survival, not for pluralistic democracy. That’s why we cling to narratives that make our group feel right—even when they’re wrong. The internet, instead of broadening our view, now hyper-polarizes us.

The solution? Train people to recognize their own mental biases. Humility isn’t a virtue anymore—it needs to be a civic skill.

Father James Martin:
People forget this: to hear someone, you must first honor their humanity. That’s what’s missing. I don’t expect everyone to agree on policy, but I do expect us to see one another as sacred.

We can’t restore moral clarity until we restore moral tenderness.

Thomas Friedman:
Polarization has become profitable. Cable news, social media, political campaigns—they all monetize outrage. We’re not just fighting over issues; we’re feeding an industry that thrives when we hate each other. Until we redesign those incentives, we’ll keep playing this toxic game.

Jonathan Haidt:
Thanks. Let’s go deeper. Second question:
What’s one personal or systemic change you believe could rebuild moral understanding in a divided society?

Charlie Kirk:
Reintroduce shared civic education rooted in love of country. When young people grow up learning to hate America, they lose all common ground. Patriotism isn’t oppression—it’s the starting point for unity.

Cornel West:
I would say: give people the right to mourn publicly. Let the working class, Black folk, rural poor, and displaced migrants all testify—not just in documentaries but in public square dialogues. Truth without tears is tyranny.

Sammy McDonald:
I'd make truth and ethics part of debate curriculum in schools—not just how to win arguments, but how to spot logical fallacies, corporate influence, and political manipulation. People can’t fight for justice if they’ve never been taught how injustice hides in language.

Father James Martin:
I would introduce spiritual stillness into public life. We need silence. Reflection. Spaces that allow us to ask, “What does love require of me?” before we speak. That pause changes everything.

Thomas Friedman:
I’d create a national Civic Empathy Year—where people live for a year in a different region, class, or culture. Drop a coastal teen into rural Appalachia. Send a Southern kid to the Bronx. Make empathy experiential.

Yuval Noah Harari:
We need a Digital Constitutional Convention—where people help redesign social platforms around collaboration, not division. AI is not the threat. Human nature, amplified by poorly designed systems, is.

Jonathan Haidt:
Final question:
What is one thing your ideological opponents get right—that you think your side needs to hear more often?

Charlie Kirk:
Progressives are right to demand moral accountability in foreign policy. I don’t always agree with how they frame it, but I’ll admit: sometimes conservatives ignore the human cost of geopolitical decisions. That’s something I think we can improve on.

Sammy McDonald:
Conservatives sometimes remind us of the value of order, and that’s not inherently evil. There are moments when stability matters. The left should be careful not to become so obsessed with tearing down structures that it forgets to build anything better.

Father James Martin:
Both sides carry truth, but often lack love. What conservatives get right is the importance of personal responsibility. What progressives get right is the necessity of structural compassion. We need both wings to fly.

Cornel West:
Some conservatives still honor the sacredness of family, tradition, and faith—even if it's sometimes narrow. The left can become arrogant, assuming it's the sole custodian of justice. But arrogance is the death of wisdom.

Yuval Noah Harari:
I think the right understands limits—of human nature, of utopian thinking. In an age of radical acceleration, that's a useful counterweight. The left should listen when the right says, “Not so fast.”

Thomas Friedman:
What I admire about the right is their desire to preserve meaning. In a chaotic world, that’s valuable. Progressives need to remember: not all traditions are oppressive—some are anchors that keep society from drifting into nihilism.

Jonathan Haidt (closing):
This conversation proves something essential: we don’t need to agree to understand each other. When we stop shouting and start listening for values, not just opinions, we open a door to shared reality.

Tribal loyalty may shout the loudest—but moral humility still has the power to heal.

Topic 2: Peace or Power? — Rethinking America’s Role in the Middle East

Moderator: Thomas Friedman

Thomas Friedman (moderator):
America has spent decades in the Middle East—toppling regimes, brokering fragile peace, arming allies, and sometimes walking away too soon. We say it’s in the name of stability or democracy, but the results are often tragic.
So here’s my first question:
Can the United States still play a constructive role in the Middle East, or is its presence inherently destabilizing now?

Father James Martin:
Only if we first ask: what kind of presence? If America shows up as a merchant of weapons and power deals, then no—it’s destructive. But if we show up as peacemakers, led by principles instead of profits, then maybe. A truly constructive role must be morally anchored—in protecting the vulnerable, not exploiting them.

Charlie Kirk:
Yes, America still has a role—but it must be rooted in strength and clarity. Peace comes through deterrence. Pulling out of the Middle East creates vacuums that bad actors like Iran, Hamas, and ISIS rush to fill. We shouldn’t abandon our allies like Israel. What we need is smarter engagement—not endless war, but strategic presence.

Sammy McDonald:
The U.S. can only be constructive if it first acknowledges the damage it has already done. The support for regimes that bomb civilians or suppress democracy discredits us. America should take a backseat and fund peacebuilding efforts led by locals, not impose its will through drones and oil politics.

Cornel West:
The question is not whether we can be constructive, but whether we’ve shown the moral maturity to do so. Until we stop treating Middle Eastern people as disposable and start treating them as equals, we are part of the problem. Send poets, doctors, teachers—not missiles. Only then can we speak of peace.

Yuval Noah Harari:
I believe America’s presence can help—but it must evolve. The Middle East’s future depends more on information, innovation, and regional cooperation than tanks. America can be a tech and diplomacy bridge-builder, not just a superpower on patrol. But we must think in decades, not election cycles.

Jonathan Haidt:
We’re split internally—half the country wants to police the world, half wants to isolate. That internal contradiction is destabilizing in itself. A constructive role requires consistency, humility, and partnerships, not arrogance or abandonment. The Middle East doesn’t need a hero. It needs a helper.

Thomas Friedman:
Thank you. Next question:
Should the U.S. continue supporting Israel militarily, even amid humanitarian outcry over its actions in Gaza and the West Bank?

Charlie Kirk:
Absolutely. Israel is the only liberal democracy in a sea of theocratic and authoritarian regimes. They didn’t start this war—Hamas did. Civilian casualties are tragic, but they are often the fault of terrorist tactics, not Israeli policy. Cutting off support would reward extremism.

Cornel West:
Brother Charlie, you ignore the suffering of Palestinians as if it's a footnote. No amount of moral twisting can justify collective punishment of innocents. If our support enables injustice, then we are complicit. True friendship means holding allies accountable. Unchecked military aid is not love—it’s license.

Sammy McDonald:
If a government bombs hospitals, kills children, and bulldozes homes, we cannot call it moral to send them more weapons. Full stop. If we support Israel's right to exist, we must also demand its respect for Palestinian life. Otherwise, we’re just paying for death.

Father James Martin:
This isn’t about picking a side—it’s about upholding sacred dignity. We must demand accountability from any government that harms civilians, whether it’s Hamas, Israel, or anyone else. If our money supports suffering, we need to repent, rethink, and redirect it.

Yuval Noah Harari:
We must support Israel’s security—but not unconditionally. A friend can say, “I love you, but I cannot enable you to destroy yourself through perpetual war.” America’s aid should be conditional on de-escalation, ceasefires, and investment in peace infrastructure.

Jonathan Haidt:
People don’t realize how deep this moral schism goes. Some Americans see Israel as David, others as Goliath. We’re locked in competing trauma narratives. We must frame our support not as a blank check, but as a mandate to pursue peace with integrity.

Thomas Friedman:
Powerful answers. Last question:
What concrete path forward do you each propose to reduce violence and build lasting peace in the region?

Yuval Noah Harari:
Invest in pan-regional education platforms—shared digital schools that connect Israeli, Palestinian, and Arab youth to learn empathy, history, and language together. The war begins in the mind. So must the peace.

Cornel West:
Create a Truth and Reconciliation Commission for the region—not led by Western powers, but facilitated by moral elders from both sides. Until the wounds are named and held with honesty, healing is impossible.

Charlie Kirk:
Secure borders for Israel. Disarm Hamas. Pressure Iran to stop funding terror. Once security is ensured, then diplomacy can work. Peace without strength is just surrender.

Sammy McDonald:
Hold international legal tribunals for war crimes—no exceptions for allies. Invest in Palestinian infrastructure, schools, and governance with total transparency. Let peace be visible, not abstract.

Father James Martin:
We need interfaith coalitions—rabbis, imams, priests—walking through Gaza and Tel Aviv together, mourning together. Let the world see what love across lines looks like. That image can shift hearts more than policy ever could.

Jonathan Haidt:
Design peace through mutual wins. Aid packages that tie Israeli security to Palestinian development. Social media campaigns that humanize both sides. Until we create shared incentives, this cycle won’t break.

Thomas Friedman (closing):
There’s no easy exit from this tangled mess. But we must try. Whether through education, empathy, diplomacy, or accountability, the future will be shaped by those brave enough to imagine peace where others only see war.

If America is to have any role in the Middle East, it must trade arrogance for humility, and force for foresight.

Topic 3: Sacred Rage — When Faith Justifies Violence

Moderator: Father James Martin

Father James Martin (moderator):
Religious faith can inspire courage, compassion, and community. But it can also be hijacked—used to justify bombings, oppression, and vengeance. From Hamas invoking God to attack civilians, to some Christians cheering war in the name of prophecy, this topic strikes at the heart of moral confusion.

Let’s begin with this question:
Why does faith, which is meant to promote peace, so often get used to justify violence?

Cornel West:
Because when power and fear take the throne, even the most sacred texts get weaponized. Faith should be fire for justice—but when it becomes fuel for nationalism, it turns holy books into bullets. Empires often hijack religion not to liberate, but to legitimize domination.

Charlie Kirk:
I hear that, but let’s be careful not to paint all religious conviction as dangerous. What you call “sacred rage,” I might call moral courage. Faith can rally people to resist evil—like ISIS, or Hamas. The problem isn’t faith. It’s when religion is severed from moral clarity, and evil hides behind holy language.

Sammy McDonald:
Charlie, with respect, the “clarity” you describe often depends on who’s holding the gun. Faith becomes dangerous when it’s paired with certainty that God is on your side—that your enemies aren’t just wrong, but damned. When that happens, mass violence feels righteous.

Yuval Noah Harari:
We must remember: humans created religions, not the other way around. Sacred texts were written in violent times. Faith is often a mirror—not just of God, but of the fears, hopes, and hatreds of its followers. That’s why fundamentalism thrives in chaos. It offers simple answers in a complex world.

Thomas Friedman:
In the Middle East especially, religion is inseparable from identity—and identity politics mixed with theology is a powder keg. Faith isn’t inherently violent, but it’s easily tribalized, especially when people feel cornered. The more existential the threat, the more extreme the theology becomes.

Jonathan Haidt:
Sacredness triggers a unique psychological state—we treat sacred values as non-negotiable. Once something is sacred, even discussing compromise feels like betrayal. That’s why religiously framed conflicts are so hard to resolve: they’re not about land or laws, but ultimate meanings.

Father James Martin:
Thank you. Let’s move to the second question:
How can faith traditions resist being hijacked for violent or political ends—and what should religious leaders do differently?

Charlie Kirk:
We need to stop pretending that all faiths are equally peaceful. Some ideologies do need reformation. But yes—religious leaders must have the courage to call out violence within their own traditions. That includes me. That includes Christians who misuse the Bible to justify hate.

Sammy McDonald:
Religious leaders must stop acting as court prophets for power. Too often they bless tanks and drones instead of defending victims. True faith leaders should speak prophetic truth to empire, even when it costs them popularity or funding.

Cornel West:
Amen to that. We need more Jeremiahs and fewer Joels—truth-tellers, not prosperity cheerleaders. Religious institutions must confess their complicity, then reclaim their radical roots: defending the widow, the orphan, the outcast—not cozying up to militaries and billionaires.

Yuval Noah Harari:
The key is pluralism within religions. Encourage debate, not dogma. Educate believers to see faith as a conversation with history, not a divine command for domination. The moment a faith tradition claims to have exclusive access to truth, it becomes vulnerable to extremism.

Thomas Friedman:
Every imam, rabbi, priest, and pastor should be trained in conflict de-escalation. I’m serious. We train soldiers for combat—we should train clergy for bridge-building. Their pulpits shape the emotional landscape of entire regions.

Jonathan Haidt:
We need to de-sacralize political ideologies too. Many modern ideologies—on both right and left—function like religions. The more sacred the cause, the less tolerant the conversation. We need to lower the temperature across the board, or the whole system overheats.

Father James Martin:
Beautifully said. Let’s finish with this final question:
What is one concrete way faith can actively promote peace today—in real communities, not just theory?

Cornel West:
Build shared spaces of lament. Let Muslims, Jews, Christians, and atheists weep together for every child lost in war. When tears flow across boundaries, walls crumble. It begins not with debate, but with shared sorrow.

Charlie Kirk:
Launch interfaith service coalitions—where Christians and Jews rebuild homes in Gaza, and Muslims volunteer in Texas flood zones. When we serve together, our stereotypes fade. That’s peace through proximity.

Sammy McDonald:
Create religious disarmament councils—places where faith leaders publicly denounce violence done in their name, and pledge transparency. Not symbolic words—real audits, real accountability. Show the world what moral courage looks like.

Thomas Friedman:
Use tech to create daily interfaith classrooms. Let an 18-year-old in Ramallah study with one in Tel Aviv. Faith must become shared experience, not just inherited dogma.

Yuval Noah Harari:
Design a global religious peace index—ranking how each faith community contributes to peace, reconciliation, and dialogue. Reward collaboration. Track data. Incentivize goodness. Make peace measurable.

Jonathan Haidt:
We need moral humility training in seminaries and schools. Faith should teach that no one has all the answers—that doubt is not betrayal, but the beginning of wisdom.

Father James Martin (closing):
Faith will either fuel our fire or heal our wounds. We must choose. Let us remember: the same scriptures that have been used to justify war also say, “Blessed are the peacemakers.” If we have the courage to reclaim that legacy, maybe sacred rage can give way to sacred repair.

Topic 4: Truth Decay — How Can We Trust in the Age of Partisan Reality?

Moderator: Yuval Noah Harari

Yuval Noah Harari (moderator):
We are living in what many call the post-truth era. Information overload, algorithmic echo chambers, and partisan media have made it harder than ever to agree on basic facts. The line between truth and narrative has blurred—and democracy cannot function if people don’t even agree on what’s real.

Let me begin with this question:
What is the root cause of our current crisis of truth?

Jonathan Haidt:
The crisis isn’t just technological—it’s psychological. Social media has rewired our brains to crave outrage and belonging over accuracy. Add in political polarization, and we’ve created moral tribes who don’t want the truth—they want confirmation. Our problem is not misinformation. It’s motivated reasoning.

Charlie Kirk:
The real crisis is the weaponization of institutions. People don’t trust the media or universities anymore because those places stopped being neutral. They became political tools. If truth feels partisan, it’s because truth-tellers picked a side. Restore neutrality, and you’ll restore trust.

Sammy McDonald:
Charlie, the irony is that those crying “bias” often refuse accountability themselves. The root problem isn’t just the media—it’s selective morality. Truth is uncomfortable. But if your version of truth always flatters your side, then it's probably propaganda. We’re not in a crisis of knowledge. We’re in a crisis of courage.

Cornel West:
Truth decays when people are too afraid—or too bought—to tell it. We’ve commodified truth. Now it’s not “What’s right?” but “What sells?” Truth-telling requires soulful resistance to power. Until we revive the prophetic voice—one not owned by clicks or contracts—we’ll keep spiraling into lies.

Thomas Friedman:
We also have to reckon with information inflation. People are overwhelmed. They tune out not because they don’t care, but because they don’t know what to believe. If everything is “breaking news,” then nothing is news. We need a truth supply chain audit, not just fact-checkers.

Father James Martin:
We’ve turned disagreement into moral warfare. Truth is now seen as a team jersey. But the Gospel reminds us: truth is not just accuracy—it’s also compassion. Truth decays when we lose the ability to see the humanity of the person telling it.

Yuval Noah Harari:
Thank you. Let’s go to the second question:
What is one concrete reform—cultural, educational, or technological—you believe could rebuild trust in truth?

Charlie Kirk:
Bring back media liability laws. If outlets knowingly spread falsehoods with political intent, they should face consequences. That’s not censorship—it’s accountability. You want people to trust journalism? Make journalists trustworthy again.

Sammy McDonald:
Fund independent, nonprofit media collectives in every city—staffed by people from the community, trained in journalistic ethics. We don’t need more pundits. We need fact-grounded storytellers who know their neighborhoods better than Twitter does.

Thomas Friedman:
Create a national civics and media literacy curriculum, starting in elementary school. Teach kids how to analyze sources, recognize manipulation, and detect bias. If they can code by age 10, they can learn epistemic humility by 12.

Jonathan Haidt:
Redesign social platforms to reward truth-seeking, not outrage. Imagine if posts that cited diverse sources were boosted, or if changing your mind publicly was applauded, not mocked. Tech shapes behavior. Let’s design for curiosity, not combat.

Cornel West:
Support public truth forums—town halls, barbershops, synagogues, and mosques—where people gather to hash out facts with care. Truth is relational. It thrives in dialogue, not monologue. Restore the sacredness of conversation.

Father James Martin:
We must model truth in faith communities. That means preaching facts, not just feelings. It also means clergy saying, “I was wrong,” when needed. If the pulpit can’t model repentance, why should the public?

Yuval Noah Harari:
We should establish an international truth integrity council, like the IPCC for climate, but for information ecosystems. It would set global standards, publish bias audits, and coordinate fact-verification across borders. Truth must be a collective defense project.

Yuval Noah Harari (continuing):
Let’s close with our third and final question:
What mindset or practice should individuals adopt to become better truth-seekers in their daily lives?

Cornel West:
Practice the discipline of doubt. Don't rush to believe what flatters you. Truth often offends before it heals. Read your enemy with love. That’s where wisdom lives.

Father James Martin:
When you hear something that angers you, pause and pray: “Is this true? Is it loving? Is it necessary?” If we all asked that before sharing headlines or harsh words, the world would quiet down and wise up.

Charlie Kirk:
I’d say: be bold enough to ask, “What if I’m wrong?” Too many people today base their identity on their political side. But strength isn’t rigidity. It’s the willingness to revise, even when it’s costly.

Sammy McDonald:
Consume one source that challenges your views every day. Not to own it or debunk it—but to understand the emotional world behind it. If you don’t know what your opponents fear, you don’t really know what they believe.

Jonathan Haidt:
Develop a habit of steelmanning: before criticizing a view, restate it in its strongest form. It forces empathy and makes your argument sharper. It’s the ultimate antidote to lazy thinking.

Thomas Friedman:
Read less. Reflect more. Let go of the dopamine drip of daily outrage, and instead ask: What does this mean for the world I want to build? Truth without vision is just noise.

Yuval Noah Harari (closing):
Truth has always been fragile—but now it’s programmable. We must be designers, not just consumers, of reality. The only way forward is together—across tribes, beliefs, and platforms. The survival of democracy depends not on being right, but on being honest in the pursuit.

Topic 5: From Blame to Blueprint — How Do We Actually Build Peace?

Moderator: Cornel West

Cornel West (moderator):
We’ve heard a lot about injustice, violence, and division. But now I want to turn the page. Let’s talk not about who’s at fault—but what can be built.
Here’s my first question:
What is the biggest barrier to lasting peace in our time—and how do we begin to remove it?

Sammy McDonald:
The biggest barrier is moral hypocrisy, especially from powerful nations. You can’t preach peace while funding war. You can’t denounce terrorism while ignoring civilian deaths from your own bombs. If peace is going to mean anything, we need moral consistency, not strategic silence.

Charlie Kirk:
The real barrier is weakness disguised as virtue. Too many leaders think peace means appeasement. But lasting peace only comes when evil is restrained. That means disarming terrorists, protecting borders, and confronting rogue regimes. Peace isn’t the absence of conflict—it’s the presence of order.

Father James Martin:
The greatest obstacle is dehumanization. When we see others as enemies, not souls, peace becomes impossible. From Gaza to Ukraine to our own cities, healing begins the moment we say, “That person is sacred, too.” We must teach people to see with reverence, not fear.

Thomas Friedman:
For me, the biggest problem is short-term thinking. Leaders are focused on the next election, not the next generation. Peacebuilding requires long attention spans—and we don’t reward that anymore. Until we fund peace the way we fund war, we’ll stay stuck.

Jonathan Haidt:
It’s moral absolutism—this idea that compromise is betrayal. Social media has trained people to think nuance equals weakness. We need to rediscover the lost art of moral negotiation, where both sides make real concessions for a greater good.

Yuval Noah Harari:
The barrier is lack of imagination. People can’t envision peace, so they don’t work for it. We need new cultural myths, new heroes, new futures that make peace feel aspirational, not naive. Without vision, there is no direction.

Cornel West:
Powerful words. Let’s go deeper.
What does a real-world, step-by-step peace process look like in places like Gaza, Ukraine, or Sudan? Not theory—what do we do?

Charlie Kirk:
First, establish security. No peace process can begin if one side is launching rockets or invading towns. That means enforcing ceasefires, demilitarizing terror groups, and protecting civilians. Then—yes—negotiate. But don’t pretend both sides are morally equal when one initiates violence.

Sammy McDonald:
You start by centering victims, not powerbrokers. Bring in mothers who’ve lost children, displaced families, people who paid the price. Let them lead truth-telling forums. Then bring in neutral mediators—perhaps from countries without oil deals or strategic interests. Only then do you build policy.

Yuval Noah Harari:
Use multi-track diplomacy. That means not just government leaders, but educators, artists, clergy, youth. Build peace not only at the top but through layered networks—economic ties, shared digital infrastructure, environmental collaboration. Peace must be multi-sensory to be durable.

Thomas Friedman:
Create a phased plan:

  1. Immediate humanitarian ceasefire

  2. International monitoring force (not from the West)

  3. Reconstruction funds tied to de-escalation benchmarks

  4. Permanent status negotiations framed around dignity, not just territory

  5. And keep the media involved—to show progress, not just violence.

Father James Martin:
Include spiritual healing as a formal part of the peace process. Bring in chaplains, imams, and rabbis not to defend sides, but to model forgiveness. Let victims confront perpetrators in a sacred space—not for revenge, but reconciliation. That’s the only way generational hate dissolves.

Jonathan Haidt:
Peace must be locally owned. Western diplomats fly in and impose frameworks that ignore local values. Let communities define peace in their own language. Train mediators from within. Provide resources, but not blueprints.

Cornel West:
Beautiful. Final question:
What must we change in ourselves—in our nations, our communities, our hearts—to make peace possible and sustainable?

Father James Martin:
We must reawaken compassion as a public force. Not sentimentality, but courageous love. The kind that sees enemies as future friends. The kind that says, “Not in my name.” Without a revolution of the heart, peace is just paperwork.

Charlie Kirk:
We need moral clarity, not moral relativism. Stop excusing evil for the sake of diplomacy. Name the aggressors. Protect the innocent. Peace must be built on truth, or it will collapse.

Sammy McDonald:
We must embrace humility. Especially those of us in the West. We’ve done harm. We’ve misused power. The first step to peace is not leading, but listening. Admit past wrongs. Share the mic. That’s how real healing begins.

Thomas Friedman:
We need to remember that peace isn’t passive. It’s strategic and sacrificial. It takes investment—emotional, financial, political. We must become a people who see peace not as an interruption of politics, but its highest expression.

Jonathan Haidt:
We have to retrain our brains. Modern media trains us to fight. We need practices—like contemplative silence, intergroup dialogue, conflict mapping—that help us think beyond the next tweet. Peace begins with rewiring how we process disagreement.

Yuval Noah Harari:
We must adopt a planetary identity. No peace is local anymore. What happens in Gaza echoes in Paris. What breaks in Ukraine affects Taiwan. Teach children that humanity is one story, written by many hands. Only then will peace be seen as a global responsibility.

Cornel West (closing):
We’ve heard fire and gentleness. Urgency and vision. From left and right. And that’s what it will take. Peace is not the absence of tension—it is the presence of justice, of mercy, of hope.

If we want to build peace, we must become builders of character, builders of bridges, and yes—builders of new myths.

Let’s get to work.

Final Thoughts by Yuval Noah Harari

What struck me most throughout these conversations is not just how different we are—but how each of us represents a version of the future.

One future clings to certainty and borders.
Another demands justice and redress.
Another offers compassion, faith, or realism.
And all of them are valid in some form.
But only one kind of future will survive: the kind we build together.

We cannot end the cycle with anger or algorithms alone. We need stories that unite, not divide. Shared education. Shared infrastructure. Shared planetary identity.

The stakes are not just moral. They are existential. If we don’t choose wisely—and soon—the next war won’t just be another chapter. It may be the epilogue.

The question is no longer, “Can we afford to change?”
It is, “Can we afford not to?”

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