Dolores Cannon Explores ‘They Walked with Jesus’

Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I’m thrilled to be part of a conversation that delves into one of the most remarkable spiritual discoveries of our time. Through her profound work with hypnosis and past-life regression, Dolores Cannon was able to access memories of individuals who lived during the time of Jesus, revealing intimate details about his life, his teachings, and the people who were closest to him.

Today, we’ll explore how these extraordinary insights challenge traditional perspectives on Jesus. From his approach to love, forgiveness, and inner growth to his metaphysical resurrection and deep connection with those around him, Dolores' findings open up a new understanding of the human and divine nature of Jesus.

I’m joined by a distinguished group of spiritual thinkers—Eckhart Tolle, Wayne Dyer, Thich Nhat Hanh, Paramahansa Yogananda, and RJ Spina—who will share their perspectives on how these revelations resonate with their own teachings on spirituality and the human experience.

Through this imaginary conversation, we’ll dive deep into the metaphysical aspects of Jesus’ life, his role as a teacher, and what his message means for us today. Together, we’ll uncover the spiritual truths that transcend time and tradition, helping us understand how we, too, can walk with Jesus on our own path to enlightenment.

Humanizing Jesus – The Balance of Divinity and Humanity

Nick Sasaki: Welcome everyone to today's conversation, where we explore the deeply human side of Jesus, as portrayed in They Walked with Jesus by Dolores Cannon. This topic challenges traditional religious narratives, showing Jesus as not only divine but also profoundly human, with emotions, relationships, and vulnerabilities. I'm joined today by Dolores Cannon, Elaine Pagels, Karen Armstrong, and Richard Rohr to discuss this perspective. Dolores, let’s start with you. In your work, how did these past-life regressions reveal a more human side of Jesus that contrasts with the traditional image?

Dolores Cannon: Thank you, Nick. In the sessions I conducted, my subjects recounted their lives during the time of Jesus, and their descriptions were so vivid and personal. One thing that stood out to me was how approachable Jesus was. They described him not as a distant, divine figure, but as someone they could talk to, someone who laughed and showed concern for even the smallest things. This deeply human portrayal allowed us to see Jesus as a man with a profound mission, yet someone who experienced doubt, frustration, and a range of emotions like all of us.

Nick Sasaki: That’s fascinating. Elaine, from your studies of early Christian texts, do you see this portrayal of Jesus reflected in any historical or religious documents, or does it challenge the conventional narratives?

Elaine Pagels: There are definitely echoes of this in some of the lesser-known Gnostic texts. These writings, which were excluded from the canon, often portray Jesus as more intimate and relatable. For example, in the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus’ teachings focus on personal spiritual growth and self-discovery, much like what Dolores mentioned. The idea that Jesus had close relationships and experienced human emotions aligns with these alternative texts. But the official Christian narrative, as solidified by the early Church, preferred to emphasize his divinity, often at the expense of his humanity.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a compelling connection. Karen, I know you’ve explored the human aspect of many religious figures. How does this more personal, human Jesus fit into the broader landscape of spiritual leaders in history?

Karen Armstrong: What we see in Dolores’ work is a common thread among many spiritual leaders—they are often more relatable and human than the mythologies built around them. Jesus, Buddha, and even Muhammad are all depicted in their earlier biographies as deeply connected to the people around them, struggling with their roles in very human ways. This portrayal of Jesus as a compassionate, approachable person aligns with the way many religious leaders start their journeys—grounded in humanity before they are elevated by followers as purely divine or extraordinary.

Nick Sasaki: Richard, what are your thoughts on this balance between Jesus’ divinity and humanity? How can we reconcile the two in a way that speaks to modern spiritual seekers?

Richard Rohr: I think what Dolores' work and these regressions show us is that we don’t need to choose between Jesus being fully human or fully divine. The key is to embrace both aspects simultaneously. This balance is essential for understanding the spiritual journey. Jesus being human makes his teachings accessible. If we only see him as divine, his life becomes unrelatable. But when we see him as someone who felt doubt, who experienced everyday struggles, it invites us to walk the same path of inner transformation that he did. That’s where the power of his message really comes alive for modern spiritual seekers.

Nick Sasaki: It seems that the human side of Jesus brings his message closer to us in a way that makes it easier to relate to. Dolores, I’d like to circle back to you. What do you think is the most significant takeaway for people when they learn about this more human side of Jesus through your work?

Dolores Cannon: I believe the most significant takeaway is the idea that Jesus, in his humanity, showed us what is possible for all of us. He wasn’t some unattainable figure; he was living proof that we all have the capacity for deep compassion, spiritual growth, and connection to the divine. His struggles make him more accessible, and they serve as a reminder that even in our own moments of doubt or hardship, we can still strive toward the same higher consciousness that he embodied.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you, Dolores. That insight really resonates—seeing Jesus as someone who struggled but still achieved his spiritual mission makes his journey something we can all aspire to. Elaine, Karen, Richard, do you have any final thoughts on how this humanized version of Jesus could reshape how we approach our own spiritual practices today?

Elaine Pagels: I think this view encourages us to seek out our own spiritual experiences, just as those early followers of Jesus did. It reminds us that personal growth and inner transformation are central to his teachings.

Karen Armstrong: For me, this human side of Jesus emphasizes compassion, both for ourselves and others. It challenges us to be more present in our relationships and to see the divine in everyday life.

Richard Rohr: I agree. It’s a call to balance—embracing our humanity while striving for deeper spiritual awareness. That’s the real essence of the spiritual journey.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you, everyone. This conversation has been enlightening, and I think it opens up many doors for how we view not only Jesus but our own potential as spiritual beings. I look forward to continuing this discussion in our next topic.

The Healing Powers of Jesus – Miracles, Angels, and Cosmic Knowledge

Nick Sasaki: Welcome back, everyone. Today, we're diving into the more mystical aspects of Jesus' life as described in They Walked with Jesus. We'll explore his healing powers, the involvement of angels, and his awareness of the cosmic universe beyond our world. Dolores, I’d love to start with you. Your book touches on Jesus’ healing abilities as effortless and natural, but also private. Could you tell us more about this aspect of Jesus?

Dolores Cannon: Absolutely, Nick. In the regressions, many described Jesus’ healings as an extension of his energy, something he didn’t even have to think about. It was like breathing to him—just a natural flow of divine energy. What was surprising is that many of these healings were done privately, without large audiences. They weren’t grand public spectacles as often depicted in scripture. His power came from an intimate connection with the divine, but he was very humble about it.

Nick Sasaki: That’s fascinating. David, you’ve spent years studying the power of consciousness in healing. How does this description of Jesus’ abilities align with what you’ve learned about the role of the mind in healing?

David R. Hawkins: It aligns perfectly. Jesus was operating at an extraordinarily high level of consciousness, which is why healing for him was effortless. At that level, healing is simply an extension of one’s inner state, as Dolores mentioned. The higher your consciousness, the more aligned you are with divine energy, and the more naturally healing occurs. Jesus understood the power of thought and intention in such a profound way that his healings transcended the physical and became metaphysical events.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a powerful connection between consciousness and healing. Joe, you focus a lot on the science behind the power of thought and its effect on the body. How do you view Jesus’ healings from that scientific perspective?

Dr. Joe Dispenza: From a scientific standpoint, we’re learning more and more about how the mind can influence the body on a cellular level. Jesus was clearly aware of this. He understood that thought and energy could transcend the physical world. What we see in Jesus' healings is the perfect demonstration of the placebo effect, but on a much larger scale. He wasn’t just healing through touch—he was using intention and focused energy to create changes in the body. Science is just now catching up to this ancient knowledge.

Nick Sasaki: So, what Jesus did, even though it seemed miraculous at the time, is now being understood through modern science as energy manipulation and intention-focused healing. Barbara, I’d like to bring you into this. Dolores’ book also touches on Jesus’ connection to angels during these healings. How do you see the role of angelic beings in the healing process?

Barbara Marciniak: In many spiritual traditions, angels are seen as intermediaries between the divine and the human. They act as amplifiers of energy and intention. Jesus, being so attuned to the divine, was able to work in harmony with these angelic beings. During his healings, these beings would assist him by magnifying the energy that flowed through him. They were not only present during his healings but also helped guide him in his teachings and mission. In essence, angels were co-creators in the miracles he performed.

Nick Sasaki: That’s an interesting perspective, Barbara. Dolores, in your work, did the regressions reveal more about this connection between Jesus and cosmic or angelic beings?

Dolores Cannon: Yes, they did. Many of the people I regressed described Jesus as having a deep awareness of the universe and life beyond Earth. He knew that he wasn’t alone in his mission and that angelic beings were there to assist him. This cosmic awareness allowed him to connect not only with the divine but with the broader universe. He understood that life wasn’t confined to just this planet, and his teachings reflected a universal love that transcended Earthly boundaries.

Nick Sasaki: That brings up another point—Jesus’ cosmic awareness. David, you’ve spoken about higher consciousness before. How do you interpret Jesus' awareness of life beyond Earth?

David R. Hawkins: Jesus was operating at a level of consciousness that allowed him to perceive beyond the physical. When someone reaches that level, they become aware of the interconnectedness of everything—not just on Earth, but in the cosmos. His understanding of life beyond Earth wasn’t just a matter of knowledge, but a state of being. He understood that all things are connected through divine consciousness, which is why his message was so universal. He didn’t see boundaries, just unity.

Nick Sasaki: That’s profound. Joe, what’s your take on the idea that Jesus had a cosmic awareness and understanding of life beyond our planet?

Dr. Joe Dispenza: I believe that Jesus, through his elevated state of consciousness, tapped into a universal field of intelligence. We’re all connected to this field, and Jesus was able to access it more readily. This cosmic awareness allowed him to not only heal but to see the bigger picture of humanity’s evolution. His teachings were about more than just personal salvation—they were about awakening to a higher understanding of the universe and our place within it.

Nick Sasaki: And Barbara, how do you think this cosmic awareness shaped his teachings and actions?

Barbara Marciniak: Jesus’ awareness of the universe and other life forms definitely influenced his message of love and unity. He knew that Earth was just a part of a much larger tapestry. His understanding that we are not alone, and that all beings are connected, shaped his call for compassion and forgiveness. He was trying to awaken humanity to this broader perspective, to show us that love transcends all boundaries—physical, spiritual, and cosmic.

Nick Sasaki: Dolores, when it comes to the power of thought, your book suggests that Jesus understood this concept at a profound level. How did his understanding of thought and intention play into his healings and teachings?

Dolores Cannon: Jesus knew that thoughts were powerful and could shape reality. He taught that by controlling one’s thoughts and focusing on positive, loving intentions, people could heal themselves and others. His healings were not just physical—they were about helping people change their minds, which in turn changed their bodies. This understanding of thought as a creative force is something we’re just now beginning to understand scientifically, but Jesus was teaching it thousands of years ago.

Nick Sasaki: It seems like Jesus was far ahead of his time in understanding these principles. This conversation has opened up so many new ways to look at Jesus’ healings, his connection to angels, and his cosmic awareness. I’m excited to continue this exploration in our next topic, where we’ll dive into the role of women and the inner circles in Jesus’ ministry. Thank you, everyone, for your insights today.

The Role of Women and Inner Circles in Jesus' Ministry

Nick Sasaki: Welcome back, everyone. Today, we're exploring a critical aspect of They Walked with Jesus—the role of women in Jesus' ministry and the esoteric knowledge shared within his inner circle. Dolores Cannon’s work presents a different perspective on women’s influence and the depth of understanding within Jesus’ closest followers. Dolores, let’s start with you. In your regressions, what did you uncover about the role women played in Jesus’ life and ministry?

Dolores Cannon: Thanks, Nick. One of the most surprising things that emerged from the regressions was just how central women were to Jesus’ ministry. They weren’t just passive followers or supporters; they played active roles in his teachings and even performed healings themselves. Several of my subjects recalled being women who walked with Jesus, deeply involved in his mission. They were part of his inner circle, trusted confidants, and spiritual equals. This narrative challenges the more traditional view that relegates women to the background in religious history.

Nick Sasaki: That’s fascinating. Brené, you’ve done a lot of work on vulnerability and leadership. How does this portrayal of women in Jesus’ ministry align with your understanding of leadership roles, especially in a historical context?

Brené Brown: I think it’s a powerful reminder that leadership isn’t just about who stands in the front or holds formal power—it’s about influence, compassion, and the ability to lead through connection. The fact that women were central to Jesus' mission but not always given credit in historical records speaks to the deeper, more intimate form of leadership they provided. Jesus seems to have recognized the unique strengths that these women brought to his movement, trusting them with the more vulnerable aspects of his teachings. Their ability to lead with empathy and connection is something we often see overlooked in traditional leadership narratives.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a great point about the importance of empathy in leadership. Carl, I know your work on the collective unconscious and archetypes has touched on the role of women in spiritual development. How do you interpret this more active role for women in Jesus’ inner circle?

Carl Jung: From an archetypal perspective, the feminine represents the intuitive, the nurturing, and the transformative—all qualities essential to spiritual growth. What we see here is the manifestation of the "anima" within the collective consciousness of Jesus’ ministry. The women who followed him and worked closely with him embodied these qualities, making them vital to the deeper, esoteric teachings that were shared among his inner circle. These women acted as bridges between the spiritual and the material worlds, guiding others to understand the profound truths that Jesus taught.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a beautiful connection between the archetypes and the spiritual roles these women played. Dolores, you also mentioned that Jesus had an inner circle of followers who were privy to deeper teachings. Could you tell us more about what set this group apart?

Dolores Cannon: Yes, Nick. While Jesus taught the larger crowds in parables and simpler messages, he reserved more profound, esoteric knowledge for his inner circle. This group, which included both men and women, understood concepts like the power of thought, manifestation, and the nature of the divine in ways that were not shared with the masses. Many of the women in this circle, including Mary Magdalene, were seen as equals in terms of spiritual knowledge and practice. Jesus trusted them with the most sacred aspects of his teachings, which were often misunderstood by those outside the circle.

Nick Sasaki: That’s very intriguing. Louise, you’ve long been an advocate for self-healing and empowerment. How do you see this deeper, esoteric knowledge being shared within Jesus’ inner circle as connected to the concepts of personal empowerment and healing?

Louise Hay: I see a direct connection, Nick. The idea that Jesus shared deeper knowledge about the power of thought and manifestation with his inner circle is at the heart of personal empowerment. He was teaching them that their thoughts could create reality, that they had the power within themselves to heal and transform their lives. This aligns so much with what I’ve taught about self-healing—you have the power within you, and it’s a matter of tapping into that inner knowledge. Jesus was empowering his followers, especially the women, by sharing these truths with them. It’s a message of self-responsibility and divine potential.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a great point, Louise. It seems that Jesus was empowering those closest to him to carry forward his teachings. Carl, how do you interpret the idea of an inner circle having access to esoteric knowledge in terms of spiritual development?

Carl Jung: Throughout history, spiritual traditions have often had inner circles or initiates who were trusted with deeper wisdom. This reflects the process of individuation, where the individual moves beyond surface-level understanding and taps into deeper, more profound truths. In Jesus’ case, his inner circle was likely comprised of individuals who had reached a level of spiritual maturity, making them ready to receive this higher knowledge. It’s not about exclusion, but about readiness—those who are prepared for the deeper mysteries are naturally drawn to these inner teachings. The idea of women being part of this circle highlights their spiritual readiness and their vital role in this transformative journey.

Nick Sasaki: It’s interesting to think about this inner circle as a reflection of spiritual maturity rather than exclusivity. Dolores, you also mentioned past-life connections in this group. Could you explain how that played into the dynamics within Jesus’ ministry?

Dolores Cannon: Many of the individuals in Jesus’ inner circle had known each other in past lives. They were part of the same soul group, reincarnating together across different lifetimes to fulfill their spiritual missions. This created a deep sense of connection and trust within the group. It wasn’t just a coincidence that these people came together—they had been working toward this shared goal for many lifetimes. This sense of soul connection allowed them to understand and support one another on a deeper level, which was essential for the kind of transformative work they were doing.

Nick Sasaki: That adds another fascinating layer to the relationship dynamics within the inner circle. Brené, what’s your take on the idea that these individuals, especially the women, were connected through past lives? How might that affect their roles in this spiritual mission?

Brené Brown: I think it speaks to the power of connection and belonging. When we think about leadership, especially spiritual leadership, it’s not just about one person guiding others—it’s about a shared mission, a community of people who are deeply connected and working toward the same goal. The idea that these women and other members of the inner circle had known each other in past lives adds a sense of purpose and destiny to their work. It reinforces the idea that leadership is about lifting each other up, supporting one another, and using our collective strength to create change.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a great way to look at it—leadership as a shared journey rather than a top-down dynamic. Dolores, as we wrap up this topic, what do you think is the most important lesson we can learn from the role of women and the inner circle in Jesus’ ministry?

Dolores Cannon: I believe the most important lesson is that spiritual growth and leadership are not limited by gender or societal roles. Jesus saw the divine potential in everyone, and he empowered those who were ready to receive his deeper teachings, regardless of who they were. The role of women in his ministry shows us that true spiritual leadership is inclusive, and that inner wisdom and connection to the divine are what truly matter.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you, Dolores, and thank you to all of you for sharing your insights. This conversation has given us a lot to think about when it comes to the power of women in spiritual leadership and the importance of inner circles in spiritual growth. I look forward to continuing our discussion in the next topic.

Jesus' Teachings on Inner Growth, Forgiveness, and Love

Nick Sasaki: Welcome back, everyone. Our focus today shifts to some of the core teachings of Jesus, as highlighted in They Walked with Jesus. We’ll explore his emphasis on inner growth, forgiveness, love, and unity. These spiritual principles often go beyond what is traditionally emphasized in religious texts. Dolores, let’s start with you. How did the past-life regressions in your book reveal Jesus' deeper teachings on inner growth and forgiveness?

Dolores Cannon: Thanks, Nick. The regressions painted a picture of Jesus as someone who was deeply focused on personal transformation. He constantly taught that spiritual growth begins within and that our thoughts and emotions shape our reality. One of the most powerful messages that came through was his teaching on forgiveness—not just forgiving others, but forgiving ourselves. He knew that true healing couldn’t happen unless people let go of guilt, resentment, and anger. Forgiveness, to him, was the ultimate path to love and spiritual awakening.

Nick Sasaki: That's a powerful message. Thich Nhat Hanh, your teachings on mindfulness and forgiveness seem to resonate strongly with Jesus' approach. How do you view this alignment between Jesus’ teachings and your own mindfulness practices?

Thich Nhat Hanh: Yes, Nick, there is a deep alignment. Jesus understood, as many spiritual teachers do, that without inner peace, forgiveness, and love, we remain trapped in suffering. In mindfulness, we learn to look deeply at ourselves, to embrace our suffering, and to transform it. Jesus taught the same—by forgiving ourselves and others, we are releasing the burdens that keep us from experiencing true love and peace. His teachings on forgiveness are very much like the practice of mindfulness, which is about being present, letting go of the past, and living fully in the moment.

Nick Sasaki: That’s an excellent point about living fully in the moment. Wayne, your work has also focused on inner growth and the power of self-awareness. How do you interpret Jesus' teachings on inner growth as described by Dolores?

Wayne Dyer: Jesus was a master at teaching that everything begins within. His message was clear: if you want to change the world around you, you have to first change what’s inside of you. He wasn’t just talking about outward actions—he was talking about thoughts, intentions, and inner beliefs. What he taught aligns perfectly with what I’ve always believed: when you shift your inner world, you change your outer world. Jesus wasn’t trying to fix the external world by force; he was teaching people how to elevate their consciousness, and that’s where true transformation happens.

Nick Sasaki: It’s fascinating how inner growth seems to be a universal theme across so many spiritual teachings. Dolores, your work also highlights Jesus' non-judgmental nature. Can you elaborate on how this connected to his teachings on love and forgiveness?

Dolores Cannon: Yes, Jesus embodied love and forgiveness in a way that few could fully grasp. He never judged anyone, even those who persecuted him. He understood that judgment comes from a place of separation, whereas love comes from unity. One of the most striking things from the regressions was how often Jesus would remind his followers that love was the highest principle. He constantly emphasized that love could transcend all pain, suffering, and judgment. For him, love wasn’t just an emotion—it was a state of being, a way of life. And forgiveness was a vital part of that love because it allowed people to release the judgment and anger that separated them from others.

Nick Sasaki: That idea of love as a state of being is profound. Dalai Lama, your teachings on compassion and love for all living beings seem to reflect this non-judgmental approach. How do you see Jesus’ teachings on love and unity in your own work?

Dalai Lama: Yes, Nick, Jesus and many other great spiritual leaders taught that love and compassion are the foundation of peace. Jesus' teachings on love, especially love for those who harm us, are very powerful. To love without condition, to forgive without holding onto anger—this is the way to inner peace. It is not always easy, but it is the path to true happiness. In Buddhism, we also teach that compassion is the antidote to suffering. When we love others, we are not just helping them, but we are healing ourselves as well. Jesus understood this deeply, and his life reflected this wisdom.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a beautiful reflection on the power of compassion. Dolores, one of the things you mentioned was Jesus’ belief in the unity of all religions. How did that message come through in the regressions?

Dolores Cannon: It was clear that Jesus didn’t see division between faiths. He recognized that at the core of every spiritual path, there is a universal truth: love, forgiveness, and the pursuit of inner growth. He didn’t come to create division; he came to show that all paths lead back to the same source. Many of those who were close to him understood this and realized that Jesus wasn’t preaching exclusivity—he was teaching unity. He often spoke about the interconnectedness of all people, regardless of their religion or background, and that love was the common thread that bound us all together.

Nick Sasaki: That’s such a powerful message of unity. Thich Nhat Hanh, how do you see this idea of unity among different religious traditions aligning with your practice of interfaith dialogue?

Thich Nhat Hanh: Jesus’ message of unity is very much in line with what we practice in interfaith dialogue. We all have different ways of expressing our faith, but at the core, we are all seeking the same truth. Whether we call it love, compassion, or peace, we are all striving for a deeper connection to life and to each other. Jesus saw this and understood that there is no separation between us. When we practice understanding and compassion, we can see beyond the labels of religion and find the shared humanity that connects us all.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a beautiful perspective on unity, and it seems to resonate across many spiritual teachings. Dolores, before we wrap up, what do you think is the most important takeaway from Jesus’ teachings on love, forgiveness, and inner growth?

Dolores Cannon: I think the most important takeaway is that Jesus was teaching us how to unlock our own divine potential. His teachings on love and forgiveness were not just about how we treat others, but how we transform ourselves. By practicing love and forgiveness, by growing from within, we can elevate our consciousness and live in a state of peace and unity. Jesus showed us that we have the power to change our lives and the world around us, but it all starts from within.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you, Dolores, and thank you to all of you for your insights. This conversation has brought to light the profound depth of Jesus' teachings on inner growth, forgiveness, and love, and how they continue to resonate in spiritual traditions today. I look forward to continuing our discussion in the next topic.

The Metaphysical Nature of the Resurrection and Jesus' Sacrifice

Nick Sasaki: Welcome back, everyone. In today’s conversation, we’ll be diving into one of the most profound aspects of Jesus’ life—his resurrection and the nature of his sacrifice. Dolores Cannon’s work in They Walked with Jesus offers a unique perspective, portraying these events not just as physical miracles but as metaphysical and spiritual occurrences. Dolores, let’s start with you. How did the regressions describe the resurrection, and how does this differ from traditional religious teachings?

Dolores Cannon: Thank you, Nick. The regressions painted a very different picture of the resurrection from what we traditionally hear. Many of the subjects described the resurrection as a metaphysical event rather than just a physical one. It wasn’t about Jesus’ body coming back to life in the traditional sense—it was more about his consciousness transcending the physical realm. He was demonstrating the continuation of life beyond the physical, showing his followers that death is not the end. His resurrection was meant to symbolize spiritual awakening and the eternal nature of the soul. This was a deeply transformative event for those who witnessed it.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a fascinating shift from the traditional narrative. RJ, your work focuses on metaphysical healing and enlightenment. How do you interpret the idea of the resurrection as a metaphysical event?

RJ Spina: It makes perfect sense to me, Nick. Jesus was showing humanity that life extends beyond the physical body. His resurrection wasn’t just a miracle of reviving a dead body—it was a demonstration of the eternal consciousness that we all possess. He was illustrating that we are not our bodies, and that our true essence, our soul, lives on beyond death. This metaphysical perspective aligns with what we know about spiritual awakening—realizing that we are eternal beings having a temporary physical experience. The resurrection was Jesus' way of showing that enlightenment and eternal life are accessible to all of us.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a powerful way of looking at it. Eckhart, your teachings often focus on transcending the ego and realizing our higher self. How do you see this interpretation of the resurrection in terms of spiritual awakening?

Eckhart Tolle: The resurrection, as Dolores and RJ have described, is a profound symbol of awakening. Jesus was pointing to the truth that life is not confined to the physical form, and that consciousness transcends death. This is the essence of spiritual awakening—realizing that the ego, which identifies with the body and the mind, is not who we truly are. When Jesus returned after his physical death, he was showing his disciples that the essence of who he was, his pure consciousness, could not be destroyed. This awakening is available to all of us when we realize our true nature beyond the ego.

Nick Sasaki: That brings a deeper spiritual meaning to the resurrection. Dolores, you also mentioned that Jesus didn’t view his sacrifice in the same way that it’s often portrayed. Can you explain that?

Dolores Cannon: Yes, one of the most surprising things that came through in the regressions was that Jesus didn’t see his crucifixion as a sacrifice in the way it’s often interpreted. He knew that his physical death was part of a larger spiritual mission. For him, it wasn’t about suffering for humanity’s sins, but about showing the power of love, forgiveness, and transcendence. He accepted what happened because he knew it was a necessary step in demonstrating the eternal nature of the soul. His focus wasn’t on the pain or the sacrifice, but on the transformation and the lesson it would teach.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a significant departure from the traditional view of the crucifixion. Paramahansa Yogananda, in your teachings, you emphasize the unity of spiritual practices and the transcendence of suffering. How do you see Jesus’ perspective on his sacrifice aligning with your understanding of spiritual transformation?

Paramahansa Yogananda: Jesus, like many great spiritual masters, understood that suffering is not the ultimate reality. His crucifixion was not about the physical pain, but about transcending that pain through love and forgiveness. Jesus was in complete control of his consciousness, even in the face of death. He chose to go through that experience to show that the soul is beyond the body and beyond suffering. His life and his so-called sacrifice were meant to inspire us to rise above the limitations of the physical world and realize our own divine nature. This is the same message found in all great spiritual traditions—that through love, forgiveness, and inner growth, we can transcend suffering and find eternal peace.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a profound way to look at the crucifixion—not as a moment of defeat, but as an expression of ultimate love and transcendence. Dolores, you also mentioned that Jesus was deeply connected to other religious figures and their teachings. How did this awareness of other traditions play into his message?

Dolores Cannon: Jesus understood that all spiritual paths lead back to the same source. He didn’t come to create a new religion—he came to show people the truth of their own divine nature, no matter what path they followed. The regressions revealed that Jesus acknowledged the presence and wisdom of other spiritual leaders from different traditions. He saw the unity in all teachings that focused on love, compassion, and the transcendence of the ego. His message wasn’t exclusive to any one group; it was meant for all of humanity, and he often spoke about this with his closest followers.

Nick Sasaki: That idea of unity among spiritual teachings is incredibly powerful. Eckhart, how do you see this idea of Jesus embracing the wisdom of other traditions?

Eckhart Tolle: It resonates deeply with the concept of universal truth. Jesus, like many enlightened beings, understood that truth cannot be confined to one belief system. He saw the interconnectedness of all spiritual teachings that point to the same ultimate reality—the realization of the divine within. Whether you follow Jesus, Buddha, or any other enlightened master, the essence of their teachings is the same: to awaken from the illusion of separateness and realize the oneness of all life. Jesus’ message was not about division but about unity, and his resurrection is a powerful symbol of that oneness.

Nick Sasaki: Dolores, before we close this topic, what do you think is the most important takeaway from Jesus’ resurrection and his approach to sacrifice?

Dolores Cannon: I believe the most important takeaway is that Jesus was showing us the path to spiritual awakening. His resurrection was a demonstration that life doesn’t end with the physical body, and that our true essence is eternal. His crucifixion wasn’t about suffering—it was about transformation. Jesus wanted to show humanity that we have the power to transcend pain, fear, and death by embracing love, forgiveness, and spiritual growth. His life and resurrection are reminders that we all have the potential to awaken to our true, divine nature.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you, Dolores, and thank you to all of you for sharing your insights today. This conversation has given us a deeper understanding of the metaphysical nature of Jesus’ resurrection and his message of love, unity, and transcendence. I look forward to continuing our discussions in future topics.

Short Bios:

Dolores Cannon: A renowned hypnotherapist and past-life regressionist, Dolores Cannon explored ancient wisdom through hypnosis, revealing spiritual insights across lifetimes.

Eckhart Tolle: A spiritual teacher and author of The Power of Now, Tolle teaches the importance of living in the present moment to achieve inner peace and awakening.

Wayne Dyer: A self-help author and motivational speaker, Wayne Dyer focused on personal empowerment and inner transformation through the power of thought.

Thich Nhat Hanh: A Vietnamese Buddhist monk and peace activist, Thich Nhat Hanh advocated mindfulness, compassion, and nonviolence through his teachings on meditation.

Paramahansa Yogananda: An Indian yogi and spiritual leader, Yogananda introduced the West to Kriya Yoga and promoted the unity of all religions in his seminal work Autobiography of a Yogi.

RJ Spina: A metaphysical teacher and author, RJ Spina focuses on consciousness, healing, and spiritual enlightenment through the exploration of higher states of awareness.