Donald Trump & Tech Giants Debate Free Speech on Social Media

Hello, everyone! Today, we’re bringing you an extraordinary conversation that delves into some of the most pressing issues of our time—free speech, technology, and the future of social media. This is an imaginary conversation, inspired by Lex Fridman's recent interview with Donald Trump, where we explore what the leaders of the digital world have to say about shaping public discourse.

At the forefront of this discussion is Donald Trump, former President of the United States, whose use of social media has sparked debates about censorship, bias, and the power of Big Tech. Joining him are key figures who lead the platforms that shape our digital lives: Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook, Vanessa Pappas, COO of TikTok, and Elon Musk, the visionary behind X (formerly Twitter). Together, they’ll tackle the challenges of free speech, misinformation, and the future of public discourse in this fast-changing world.

Let’s dive into this powerful conversation and see what emerges from this intersection of politics, technology, and the freedom of expression.

The Psychology of Winning: Insights from Sports and Leadership

Nick Sasaki: Welcome, everyone. Today, we’re diving into the psychology of winning—what drives top performers and leaders across sports and politics to achieve greatness. We’re lucky to have five individuals who understand winning in ways most people never will. To start, let’s ask the question that often divides champions: What drives you more, the love of winning or the hate of losing? Donald, why don’t you kick us off?

Donald Trump: Thanks, Nick. For me, it’s both. I love winning, but I also hate losing. Losing means someone got the better of you, and that’s unacceptable when so much is at stake. In business and politics, when you lose, you’re not just letting yourself down—you’re letting down your team, your supporters, or even your country. So, both emotions fuel me.

Nick Sasaki: Interesting. Michael, what’s your take on that?

Michael Jordan: The hate of losing drives me more. When I’m on the court, the idea of losing feels personal—it’s like a piece of you gets taken away. Every loss stays with me, and that’s what pushes me to go harder the next time. Winning is great, but I think it’s the pain of losing that really motivates you to push your limits.

Nick Sasaki: Tiger, does that resonate with you?

Tiger Woods: Yeah, Michael’s right. Losing stings, especially in golf where it's more individual. You can’t blame anyone else; it's on you. But for me, it’s not just about winning or losing—it's about perfecting the game. Golf is about constantly refining your skill, and that drive for improvement is what fuels me. Winning is the reward, but the process of getting there is what I focus on.

Nick Sasaki: So, it sounds like the process is just as important as the outcome for you. Muhammad, how does this compare to your mindset in boxing?

Muhammad Ali: For me, it’s simple: I’m the greatest. The love of proving that over and over is what drives me. When you know you’re the best, losing isn’t even in your vocabulary. I had to prove to the world and myself that no one could stand in my way. It wasn’t just about the win—it was about showing the world who Muhammad Ali is. But yeah, if you lose, it’s a whole different fight—to get back to where you know you belong.

Nick Sasaki: Jack, golf is known for its intense mental game. How do you manage the pressures of winning versus the fear of losing?

Jack Nicklaus: In golf, every shot could be the difference between winning and losing, so you can’t let the fear of failure paralyze you. For me, it’s about preparation. Confidence comes from knowing you’ve done the work. I always say, ‘The more you practice, the luckier you get.’ The pressure comes when you’re not prepared, but when you are, you can handle the pressure better, and winning becomes a byproduct of that preparation.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a great insight, Jack. So, it seems like confidence, preparation, and even the fear of losing all play a role in driving success. But what about when you’re already at the top? What keeps you coming back after you’ve won so many times? Michael, you’ve been at the top in the NBA—what kept you coming back?

Michael Jordan: It’s not about the trophies or the rings. Once you’ve reached the top, it’s about pushing your limits even further. You compete with yourself at that point. I didn’t just want to be good—I wanted to be the best there ever was. Every time I won, I set a new standard for myself. That hunger doesn’t go away just because you’ve got a few championships under your belt.

Nick Sasaki: Tiger, what about you? You’ve won everything in golf, but you kept coming back. Why?

Tiger Woods: It’s the same as what Michael said. Once you reach a certain level, it’s not about proving it to others anymore—it’s about proving it to yourself. Every tournament is a chance to test your skills again. The game evolves, and so do you. Winning never gets old because you’re always playing against your own potential.

Nick Sasaki: Donald, I imagine the same applies to politics and business. After winning big, what kept you pushing forward?

Donald Trump: In business and politics, it’s about legacy. It’s not enough to win once. You have to keep winning to stay on top and make a lasting impact. People expect you to deliver over and over, so every win has to be bigger than the last. It’s about proving that you can lead, build, and succeed continuously. If you rest on your laurels, someone else is going to take your place.

Nick Sasaki: Muhammad, did you feel the same way after winning the heavyweight title?

Muhammad Ali: Absolutely. Winning wasn’t the end—it was the beginning of something bigger. I had to defend that title and show the world that I was the best, not just once, but over and over. It’s the constant drive to keep being the greatest. When you’re at the top, everyone’s coming for you, so you have to stay sharp.

Nick Sasaki: That brings up a good point. Once you're on top, you become a target. How do you handle the pressure of everyone wanting to take you down? Jack, how did you manage that in your golf career?

Jack Nicklaus: The pressure is always there, but I embraced it. Pressure is a privilege—it means you're doing something right. You have to stay focused on your game, not the competition. If you start worrying about who’s coming after you, you lose sight of your own performance. It’s all about staying calm and executing your strategy.

Nick Sasaki: Donald, you’ve been a target in both business and politics. How do you keep the pressure from derailing your focus?

Donald Trump: You have to be tough. People are always coming for you when you’re successful. You can’t let it get to you. You’ve got to keep your eye on the prize and focus on the next win. In politics, especially, the stakes are high, and there’s always someone looking to knock you down. The key is resilience—always coming back stronger.

Nick Sasaki: It seems that resilience, drive, and focus are common threads here. Before we wrap up, I’d like to hear from each of you on how you stay motivated after achieving so much. Tiger, what keeps you motivated after all you’ve won?

Tiger Woods: It’s simple—there’s always more to learn, always room to improve. No matter how much you’ve won, you can always get better. That’s what keeps me going.

Michael Jordan: For me, it’s the love of the game. The competition, the challenge, the chance to push yourself—it never gets old. That’s the real motivation.

Muhammad Ali: I’m driven by the need to show the world that I’m the best. The fight never stops, even after you’ve won. You’ve got to keep proving yourself.

Jack Nicklaus: It’s about the process. Winning is great, but mastering your craft is what drives you. If you focus on that, the wins will follow.

Donald Trump: For me, it’s about impact. Winning is important, but what matters more is what you do with it. You have to keep pushing to make a difference and leave a legacy.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you all for sharing your insights. It’s clear that winning is about much more than just the result—it’s about the mindset, the process, and the drive to keep getting better. I think we can all take something away from your experiences, whether in sports, business, or life.

Negotiation Tactics in Politics and Business

Nick Sasaki: Welcome, everyone. Today, we’re going to dive into negotiation tactics—something that each of you has mastered in your respective fields. Whether it's navigating international diplomacy, securing billion-dollar deals, or shaping the future of technology, negotiation is a crucial skill. To start, Donald, you’ve often spoken about the importance of being tough in negotiations. How do you approach a high-stakes negotiation, especially when the other side isn’t playing fair?

Donald Trump: Thanks, Nick. Negotiation is all about leverage. If you don’t have leverage, you’re at the mercy of the other side. When I go into a negotiation, whether in business or politics, I make sure I have something they need. You also have to be willing to walk away. That’s where strength comes in. If they think you’ll accept anything, they’ll take advantage of you. But if they know you’re ready to leave the table, that’s when the real deal happens.

Nick Sasaki: Henry, as a former Secretary of State, your negotiations often determined global peace or conflict. Do you agree with Donald’s emphasis on leverage, or is there a different approach in diplomacy?

Henry Kissinger: Leverage is certainly important, but diplomacy often requires a more nuanced approach. In international relations, you're not just negotiating a single deal; you’re managing long-term relationships. It’s about finding common ground and aligning interests, even if temporarily. The art of diplomacy is knowing when to apply pressure and when to offer concessions. It’s a balancing act—too much pressure can lead to collapse, and too many concessions can weaken your position over time.

Nick Sasaki: That’s a great point about the long-term view. Vladimir, Russia’s foreign policy often emphasizes strength. How do you balance that with the need for diplomacy?

Vladimir Putin: Strength is the foundation of any negotiation. Without it, you have no credibility. In Russia, we negotiate from a position of power. However, like Henry said, you must also recognize when diplomacy is necessary. It’s about knowing when to use force and when to use dialogue. But make no mistake, if the other side does not respect your strength, negotiations are pointless. You must always ensure that your counterpart understands the consequences of not reaching an agreement.

Nick Sasaki: That brings us to a different perspective. Elon, in tech and business, you’ve disrupted entire industries, from electric cars to space exploration. How do you approach negotiations, especially when you’re dealing with governments and large institutions?

Elon Musk: In business, it’s a little different. It’s not always about power or strength. It’s about vision. When I negotiate with NASA or even investors, I focus on showing them the future—what we’re building, where it can take humanity. People are more willing to come to the table if they can see how they’ll benefit in the long run. Negotiation, for me, is about collaboration more than competition. You don’t have to win by crushing the other side—you win by getting them to believe in what you’re building.

Nick Sasaki: Sheryl, as someone who’s helped shape one of the largest tech companies in the world, Facebook, what’s your view? Is collaboration as key as Elon suggests, or does it come down to leverage?

Sheryl Sandberg: I agree with Elon to an extent. In tech, partnerships and collaboration drive innovation, so it’s important to create win-win scenarios. However, leverage still matters. At Facebook, we often negotiated deals where the other party needed our platform as much as we needed their content or services. But the key difference is trust. In tech, relationships last longer if both sides feel like they’re part of something bigger. If one side feels they’re being forced into a deal, the partnership often breaks down later. It’s about striking the right balance between leverage and cooperation.

Nick Sasaki: So it seems like there’s a spectrum here. On one end, we have leverage and strength as critical factors, and on the other, we have vision and collaboration. Donald, you’ve negotiated in both business and politics—how do you decide when to use force and when to focus on cooperation?

Donald Trump: Well, Nick, it depends on who’s on the other side. If I’m dealing with someone tough—someone like Putin, for example—you’ve got to show strength. But if you’re negotiating with a partner who’s more open, like Elon’s example with investors or NASA, you can be more collaborative. The key is reading the room. You have to know who you’re up against and adjust your strategy accordingly. But let’s be clear: strength always has to be there, even if you’re playing nice.

Nick Sasaki: Vladimir, you’re often seen as a leader who values strength above all in negotiations. How do you approach a situation where compromise might be necessary?

Vladimir Putin: Compromise is only possible when both sides see a mutual benefit. But that doesn’t mean you let go of your core interests. The goal is to achieve your objectives without appearing weak. If you’re seen as weak, you lose all future negotiations. It’s not about winning every single point—it’s about securing the most important ones. You can give on minor issues to gain on the major ones.

Nick Sasaki: Henry, what would you say to that? Is it possible to secure long-term peace or success if one side is seen as too strong or too weak?

Henry Kissinger: Strength is essential, but lasting agreements are built on trust and mutual benefit. In diplomacy, you cannot rely on coercion alone. If one side feels dominated, the agreement will unravel over time. Negotiations must offer something for both parties. In my experience, the most durable agreements come from understanding each side’s core interests and finding a way to align them, even if temporarily.

Nick Sasaki: Sheryl, in the fast-paced world of tech, how do you balance the need for immediate success with long-term partnerships?

Sheryl Sandberg: Tech moves fast, but trust takes time to build. I’ve found that the best deals are the ones where both sides feel like they’re contributing to something bigger. That said, we also need to be nimble. In some negotiations, like acquiring a new technology or entering a new market, we have to move quickly. But if we sacrifice the relationship for a quick win, we pay for it down the line. It’s a constant balance between short-term gains and long-term growth.

Nick Sasaki: Elon, your projects like SpaceX and Tesla are about long-term visions. How do you approach negotiations when there’s so much at stake in the future?

Elon Musk: It’s all about showing people the big picture. If people see how a deal will help them be part of something transformative, they’re more willing to negotiate in good faith. That’s why I focus on the vision. I try to align people with that. It’s not just about what you’re offering today; it’s about what you’re building for tomorrow.

Nick Sasaki: It’s fascinating to hear how each of you balances strength, trust, and vision in negotiations. To wrap up, I’d like to ask each of you—what’s the most important lesson you’ve learned in your career about negotiating?

Donald Trump: Always be ready to walk away. If you’re not willing to leave the table, you’re not negotiating—you’re surrendering.

Vladimir Putin: Strength is the foundation of any negotiation. If they don’t respect you, there is no deal.

Henry Kissinger: Patience and understanding are key. You must see beyond the immediate and think about the long-term consequences of any agreement.

Sheryl Sandberg: Trust and collaboration are essential for long-term success. If both sides don’t feel like they’ve won, the deal will fall apart later.

Elon Musk: Show people the future. If they believe in the vision, they’ll come to the table with an open mind.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you all for your incredible insights. It’s clear that whether in politics, business, or technology, negotiation is as much about strategy as it is about relationships, vision, and trust.

The Future of Global Leadership and America’s Role

Nick Sasaki: Welcome, everyone. Today, we’re discussing the future of global leadership and how America’s role may evolve in the coming years. We’ve gathered world leaders to talk about the shifting dynamics of power, the rise of new global players, and the challenges that lie ahead. To begin, Donald, you’ve often spoken about America needing to regain its global dominance. How do you see America’s role evolving, especially in light of rising powers like China?

Donald Trump: Thanks, Nick. America has always been a leader on the world stage, but under the current administration, we've lost some of that edge. I believe in putting America first, which means strengthening our economy, our military, and our international standing. China is a real competitor, no question. But I think we can regain our position by being tough on trade, demanding fair deals, and rebuilding our alliances. We need to be strong and stop relying on other countries to do what we can do ourselves.

Nick Sasaki: Xi Jinping, China’s rise has been one of the most significant shifts in global power. How do you view China's role in shaping the future of global leadership?

Xi Jinping: China’s focus has always been on stability, development, and mutual cooperation. As we continue to grow, our goal is not to dominate but to create a new type of international relations based on win-win cooperation. We seek to expand our influence through initiatives like the Belt and Road, fostering global economic integration. The rise of China is inevitable, but it is not at the expense of other nations. We believe that global leadership is shared and should focus on mutual benefit, not unilateral dominance.

Nick Sasaki: Angela, you led Germany through some turbulent times and were a key figure in the European Union. How do you see the future of global leadership, especially as Europe tries to navigate between American and Chinese influence?

Angela Merkel: Europe must carve out its own path in the global order. We have strong ties with both the United States and China, and I believe Europe should focus on multilateralism. The future of global leadership, in my opinion, is about cooperation between regions rather than one country dominating the world. We need to address global challenges—such as climate change, economic inequality, and security threats—together. Europe can play a mediating role in ensuring that the balance of power doesn’t shift too far in one direction.

Nick Sasaki: Emmanuel, France has always maintained an independent stance in global politics. How do you see the future of American leadership, and how does France position itself in this shifting global landscape?

Emmanuel Macron: The world is becoming increasingly multipolar. While the U.S. will continue to play a significant role, the days of a single global hegemon are behind us. France sees its role as part of a larger European framework, advocating for a strong and united Europe. In terms of America’s leadership, it’s critical that the U.S. works with its allies rather than imposing its will. Global challenges require collective solutions—whether it's climate change, security, or economic stability. The U.S. will remain a key player, but we must all work together.

Nick Sasaki: Narendra, India is one of the fastest-growing economies and is increasingly seen as a global player. How do you see India’s role in global leadership, particularly in relation to the U.S. and China?

Narendra Modi: India’s role in global leadership is growing, and we are committed to playing a constructive role. We believe in a multipolar world where no single country dominates, and where every nation has a voice. India will focus on inclusive growth, technological innovation, and cooperation with both the U.S. and China. We have good relationships with both nations, but India will chart its own path, prioritizing our national interests and the well-being of our people. Our leadership will be defined by peace, economic development, and a commitment to global cooperation.

Nick Sasaki: It’s interesting to hear how each of you views the balance of power. Donald, do you think America can maintain its dominance in this increasingly multipolar world?

Donald Trump: Absolutely. But only if we make the right moves. We need to stop being complacent. America has the resources, the people, and the innovation to stay on top, but we have to start acting like it. We need to focus on our economy—bring manufacturing back, reduce our reliance on foreign energy, and renegotiate trade deals that hurt us. We also need to rebuild our military and stand firm against countries like China who are trying to outcompete us. America can stay number one, but we have to be aggressive about it.

Nick Sasaki: Xi, Donald mentioned trade and competition. How does China view its economic rivalry with the U.S., and do you see a future where the two nations can coexist as global leaders?

Xi Jinping: Competition is natural between great nations, but it doesn’t have to lead to conflict. China is focused on developing our economy, improving our technology, and raising the living standards of our people. We seek cooperation, not confrontation. The global economy is interconnected, and the U.S. and China can benefit from each other. We believe in peaceful development and a new model of major power relations, where both countries can grow without trying to undermine one another.

Nick Sasaki: Angela, with Europe in the middle of these two powers, how does the European Union plan to assert its own influence in the future?

Angela Merkel: The European Union must continue to strengthen its internal unity and external partnerships. Europe’s influence comes from its commitment to democratic values, human rights, and the rule of law. We need to be a strong voice in addressing global issues like climate change, economic inequality, and migration. Europe has the potential to act as a balancing force in the world, not by taking sides, but by promoting stability and cooperation. We must ensure that Europe remains a leader in innovation, technology, and diplomacy.

Nick Sasaki: Emmanuel, you’ve been vocal about the need for Europe to stand independent of both U.S. and Chinese influence. How do you envision that happening?

Emmanuel Macron: Europe needs to invest in its own defense, technology, and energy independence. While our alliances with the U.S. are important, we cannot rely solely on America for our security. At the same time, we must engage with China on trade and climate issues without becoming overly dependent. Europe’s strength lies in its diversity and its ability to build consensus. By focusing on our own strengths and maintaining strategic autonomy, Europe can remain a significant player on the global stage without being pulled in one direction or another.

Nick Sasaki: Narendra, India is often seen as a balancing force between the West and the East. How does India plan to navigate its relationships with both the U.S. and China in the future?

Narendra Modi: India’s foreign policy is based on strategic autonomy. We will continue to strengthen our partnerships with the U.S., especially in areas like defense, trade, and technology. At the same time, we will maintain a constructive dialogue with China. India’s focus is on development, and we will work with any nation that helps us achieve that goal. Our goal is to create a peaceful and prosperous region, with India playing a leading role in promoting stability, growth, and cooperation.

Nick Sasaki: It sounds like each of you believes in a future where cooperation is key, even as nations compete for influence. Before we wrap up, I’d like to ask each of you: What do you see as the biggest challenge to global leadership in the next decade? Donald, let’s start with you.

Donald Trump: The biggest challenge is complacency. If America doesn’t wake up and start taking the lead again, we’re going to fall behind. We need to focus on rebuilding our economy, bringing back jobs, and strengthening our military. The world is getting tougher, and we need to toughen up with it.

Xi Jinping: The greatest challenge is managing competition peacefully. We must find ways to grow and compete without resorting to conflict. Global cooperation, especially on issues like climate change and technology, will be critical to maintaining peace and stability.

Angela Merkel: I believe the biggest challenge will be global inequality and the need for sustainable development. We need to ensure that the benefits of globalization reach all people, not just a select few, and that our development does not come at the expense of the environment.

Emmanuel Macron: The rise of nationalism and populism is the greatest challenge. If countries turn inward, we risk undermining the global order that has kept the world relatively stable for decades. We need to defend multilateralism and international cooperation.

Narendra Modi: The challenge will be ensuring that technology and economic growth are inclusive. As the world evolves, we must ensure that all nations, especially those in the developing world, have access to the opportunities that come with innovation and growth.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you all for your insights. It’s clear that the future of global leadership will be shaped by cooperation, competition, and the ability to adapt to a rapidly changing world. Whether through diplomacy, economic strength, or technological innovation, the next decade will be a defining moment for each of your countries and for the world as a whole.

Religion, Morality, and the Role of Faith in Modern Society

Nick Sasaki: Welcome, everyone. Today, we’ll explore the role of religion, morality, and faith in shaping modern society. From politics to personal belief systems, religion has always been a guiding force, but the world is changing rapidly. How do spiritual leaders and political figures navigate these changes? Donald, you’ve spoken about the importance of religion in America. How do you see faith playing a role in leadership and governance today?

Donald Trump: Thanks, Nick. Religion is central to American life—it gives people a sense of purpose, values, and community. In politics, it’s important to uphold those values because they guide the moral compass of the country. Faith helps keep people grounded, and we need to bring more of it back into our schools, our communities, and our government. America was built on religious freedom and principles, and I think we’ve lost some of that. Reclaiming our faith is key to getting back on track as a nation.

Nick Sasaki: Pope Francis, you’ve often emphasized the need for compassion and humility in leadership. How do you see the role of religion in addressing the challenges of modern society?

Pope Francis: Faith offers us the opportunity to reflect on our relationship with each other and with the world. Religion is not just about rituals; it’s about love, mercy, and justice. In today’s world, we face many crises—poverty, inequality, environmental destruction—and faith can guide us toward solutions that are not just practical but moral. Leadership, both spiritual and political, must be rooted in service to others, especially the most vulnerable. Faith should inspire us to work for the common good, not just for personal or national interests.

Nick Sasaki: Dalai Lama, you’ve spoken a lot about the importance of inner peace and compassion. How can religion and spirituality help people cope with the fast pace of modern life and the growing materialism?

Dalai Lama: Religion is about cultivating compassion, love, and inner peace. It’s easy to get caught up in materialism and the pressures of modern life, but true happiness doesn’t come from external things—it comes from within. Spirituality helps people develop a calm mind and an open heart, which are essential for facing the challenges of today’s world. Whether through meditation, prayer, or community, religion provides a path to inner peace. This inner strength helps people make decisions that are compassionate and thoughtful, not driven by greed or fear.

Nick Sasaki: Reverend Graham, you were a prominent voice in American spirituality for decades. How do you think religion can bring people together in such a divided world?

Reverend Billy Graham: The message of the Gospel is one of love and forgiveness, and that’s what we need more than ever. People are divided, but God’s love transcends those divisions. It’s not about politics or national boundaries—it’s about finding common ground in our shared humanity. When people turn to God, they realize that the things that divide us are small compared to the love that unites us. Faith can heal divisions and bring people together by reminding us that we are all children of God.

Nick Sasaki: Paramahansa Yogananda, you taught about the unity of all religions and the inner journey to self-realization. How do you see the role of faith in guiding humanity toward a more peaceful and harmonious future?

Paramahansa Yogananda: All religions lead to the same truth—that we are all part of the divine and that we must find unity within ourselves and with others. The spiritual journey is about realizing our oneness with God and with the universe. In this modern world, people are looking for peace, but they often seek it in the wrong places. True peace comes from understanding our divine nature and living in harmony with it. Faith and meditation help us tap into that inner peace, which can then be reflected in the world around us. The more people embrace this understanding, the closer we’ll come to a world of harmony.

Nick Sasaki: Donald, hearing these spiritual perspectives, how do you think a political leader can balance personal faith with the diverse beliefs of the people they lead?

Donald Trump: It’s a delicate balance, but I believe that leaders should stand firm in their own faith while respecting the beliefs of others. America is a country built on religious freedom, and people should be free to practice their faith without interference. At the same time, faith can guide a leader’s principles and decisions. You don’t have to impose your religion on others to lead with a strong moral compass. I’ve always felt that faith gives you strength and direction, and that’s something any leader needs.

Nick Sasaki: Pope Francis, you’ve emphasized inclusivity in your leadership. How do you reconcile the need for religious principles with the diversity of beliefs and non-beliefs in society?

Pope Francis: Inclusivity is key. We must remember that faith is a gift, and not everyone will believe in the same way. Our role as spiritual leaders is to offer guidance through love, not through imposition. Religion should not be a source of division, but rather a source of unity and understanding. We must meet people where they are, regardless of their beliefs, and work together to create a more compassionate and just society. Respecting diversity does not weaken our faith; it strengthens our ability to love others as God loves us.

Nick Sasaki: Dalai Lama, in a world where more people are identifying as secular or spiritual but not religious, how can traditional religions remain relevant and appealing?

Dalai Lama: Relevance comes from showing people the value of compassion, kindness, and mindfulness. Religion must evolve to meet the needs of people today. We should focus on the core teachings of love and peace, rather than dogma or rituals that may not resonate with modern lives. Even those who do not follow a specific religion can benefit from spiritual teachings. Compassion is universal—it doesn’t belong to any one religion. By focusing on inner development and ethical living, we can make spirituality accessible to everyone, religious or not.

Nick Sasaki: Reverend Graham, you spoke to millions during your lifetime. How do you think religion can reach the younger generations, especially in a world so influenced by technology and modern trends?

Reverend Billy Graham: The message doesn’t change, but the way we deliver it must. Young people are searching for meaning and purpose, just like every generation before them. They’re looking for something real, something they can hold on to in a world that’s constantly changing. Religion provides that sense of stability, and God’s love is as relevant today as it’s ever been. We need to meet young people where they are, using the tools and technology they understand, but always with the same message of hope, love, and salvation.

Nick Sasaki: Paramahansa Yogananda, as someone who bridged Eastern and Western spiritual traditions, how do you see religion and spirituality converging in the modern world?

Paramahansa Yogananda: The convergence of East and West in spiritual understanding is a sign of humanity’s progress. People are beginning to see that the core truths of all religions are the same. The search for God, or divine consciousness, is universal. In the modern world, people are no longer confined to one path—they seek wisdom from multiple traditions. This blending of spiritual teachings is a positive thing because it brings us closer to the realization that we are all one. Meditation, prayer, and self-realization are practices that can help anyone, regardless of their background, find peace and purpose.

Nick Sasaki: It’s clear that while each of you represents different perspectives and traditions, the core principles of faith—love, compassion, and inner peace—remain constant. Before we wrap up, I’d like to ask each of you: What do you think is the most important moral or spiritual lesson we need to embrace as a global society?

Donald Trump: I’d say strength and faith. We need to have strong values and stand up for what’s right. Faith gives us the moral backbone to lead and make the tough decisions.

Pope Francis: Compassion for the poor and marginalized. We must remember that we are all connected, and caring for the most vulnerable among us is not just a moral obligation, it is a reflection of our love for God.

Dalai Lama: Compassion and nonviolence. These two principles can guide us through any challenge. If we cultivate love for others, we can build a more peaceful and just world.

Reverend Billy Graham: Forgiveness. The world is full of hurt, but God teaches us to forgive. It’s through forgiveness that we heal ourselves and others, and that’s how we move forward as a society.

Paramahansa Yogananda: The realization that we are all divine. Once we understand our connection to the divine and to each other, we can live in harmony. The inner journey is the key to outer peace.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you all for your wisdom. It’s clear that the lessons of faith and morality are as relevant as ever in guiding us toward a better future, no matter how complex and fast-paced the modern world may be.

Technology, Social Media, and the Future of Public Discourse

Nick Sasaki: Welcome, everyone. Today, we’re diving into the role of technology and social media in shaping public discourse. With platforms like Facebook, TikTok, and X (formerly Twitter) being the main arenas for global communication, we face challenges related to free speech, misinformation, and corporate responsibility. Donald, you’ve used social media extensively in your political career. How do you view its role in politics and public discourse today?

Donald Trump: Thanks, Nick. Social media is a powerful tool—it gives people a voice and allows leaders like me to speak directly to the public without the filter of the biased media. Platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and even TikTok are crucial in getting messages out fast. The problem is the censorship. Big Tech companies are trying to silence conservative voices, and that’s something we need to fix. Social media should be a platform for free speech, not controlled narratives.

Nick Sasaki: Mark, as the CEO of Facebook, you’ve faced criticism for both allowing too much content and for censoring certain voices. How do you balance the need for free speech with the responsibility of preventing harmful content?

Mark Zuckerberg: It’s a challenge, Nick. On one hand, we want Facebook to be a platform for free expression. On the other hand, we have a responsibility to ensure that our platform isn’t being used to spread harmful misinformation or incite violence. We work with independent fact-checkers, but we also provide users with tools to filter the content they see. It’s about finding the right balance between openness and safety, but we’re constantly refining our approach.

Nick Sasaki: Vanessa, TikTok has quickly become one of the most popular social media platforms, particularly among younger users. How does TikTok manage the balance between free speech and content moderation, given its massive global reach?

Vanessa Pappas: At TikTok, we focus on creativity and community. Our platform is designed to celebrate expression, but we also recognize the responsibility that comes with our scale. We have community guidelines in place to ensure that TikTok remains a safe and positive environment. While we encourage free expression, we take a proactive approach to removing harmful content, whether it’s misinformation or anything that violates our guidelines. We believe that empowering creators while maintaining safety is key to fostering healthy public discourse.

Nick Sasaki: Elon, you’ve taken a direct role in shaping the conversation around free speech with your acquisition of X (formerly Twitter). How do you see the role of social media evolving, particularly in terms of balancing free speech with platform responsibility?

Elon Musk: Free speech is the foundation of democracy. My goal with X is to create a platform where anyone can speak freely, but that doesn’t mean chaos. We’re working on transparency—making our algorithms open-source so people can see how decisions are made. It’s important that we don’t become arbiters of truth, but we do need to combat manipulation and spam. Ultimately, social media needs to serve as a level playing field where all voices can be heard.

Nick Sasaki: Lex, as someone who studies the intersection of AI and society, where do you see the balance between allowing freedom of speech on social platforms and using technology to prevent harm?

Lex Fridman: Social media is a powerful tool, but its algorithms are often designed to maximize engagement, which can lead to the amplification of extreme content or misinformation. AI can help moderate content more effectively, but it has to be used with transparency and care. We need systems that allow people to have open, meaningful conversations, while preventing the spread of harmful or false information. The challenge is using AI to protect discourse without stifling it.

Nick Sasaki: Donald, you’ve mentioned concerns about censorship on platforms like Facebook and Twitter. How do you think we can create a space for open dialogue while addressing the real issues of misinformation and harmful content?

Donald Trump: The answer is simple: stop the censorship. People are smart enough to figure out what’s true and what’s not. The problem with these platforms is that they’re deciding for us. We need to allow free speech and let the public debate the issues. If someone spreads misinformation, let others call it out. But banning or censoring people, especially conservatives, is dangerous for democracy.

Nick Sasaki: Vanessa, TikTok’s content is largely driven by trends and viral moments. How do you address the spread of misinformation, especially when something can go viral so quickly?

Vanessa Pappas: TikTok’s virality is part of what makes it unique, but it also means we need to be vigilant about misinformation. We work closely with fact-checkers and use AI tools to detect and limit the spread of false information. Additionally, we focus on media literacy, helping our users, particularly younger ones, understand how to critically assess the content they see. Our goal is to empower users while keeping the platform safe.

Nick Sasaki: Mark, what do you think of the approach Vanessa mentioned—empowering users through media literacy while also using AI to monitor content?

Mark Zuckerberg: I think it’s a great approach. Media literacy is crucial, especially as misinformation becomes more sophisticated. We’re also investing heavily in AI to help with content moderation, but it’s important that we remain transparent about how these systems work. At Facebook, we’ve introduced tools that give users more control over what they see, allowing them to filter content based on their preferences while also ensuring harmful content doesn’t go unchecked.

Nick Sasaki: Elon, you’ve been outspoken about transparency and open-source algorithms. How do you think this will impact the way people interact with social media platforms like X?

Elon Musk: Transparency is key. If people know how content is being recommended or suppressed, it builds trust. When you don’t understand how decisions are made, it creates suspicion. By making the algorithms open-source, we’re putting the power back in the hands of the users. They can see how the system works and even suggest improvements. It’s about creating a platform where everyone’s voice can be heard without manipulation or bias.

Nick Sasaki: Lex, how do you see AI’s role in the future of social media moderation? Can it help solve some of the challenges we’re discussing?

Lex Fridman: AI has a lot of potential in content moderation, but it needs to be implemented carefully. AI can detect harmful content at scale and provide context, but it’s not perfect. It can make mistakes, and those mistakes can affect people’s ability to express themselves freely. What we need is a combination of AI moderation with human oversight, and more importantly, transparency. If we’re going to use AI to shape public discourse, we need to make sure that it’s done in a way that is accountable and open to scrutiny.

Nick Sasaki: To wrap up, I’d like to ask each of you: What do you think is the most important change needed in the current social media landscape to improve public discourse? Donald, let’s start with you.

Donald Trump: Stop the censorship. Let people speak freely. The more voices, the better the debate, and that’s how democracy should work.

Mark Zuckerberg: I think we need to continue refining the balance between openness and safety. Giving users more control over their experience while protecting the platform from harmful content is key.

Vanessa Pappas: Media literacy is critical. If we can help users better understand how to navigate information, we can foster healthier discussions. Alongside that, we need to stay proactive in removing harmful content quickly.

Elon Musk: Transparency is the future. When people know how decisions are made, it builds trust. Open-source algorithms and clear rules will help create a platform where free speech thrives without manipulation.

Lex Fridman: AI moderation with transparency. AI can help solve many of the challenges we face, but we need to ensure that it’s being used ethically and that users know how it works.

Nick Sasaki: Thank you all for sharing your insights. It’s clear that the future of social media will require a delicate balance between free speech, responsibility, and technological innovation. Whether through transparency, user control, or media literacy, it’s evident that the path forward will involve collaboration between platforms and their users to create healthier public discourse.

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