From Ideals to Action: Building Global Peace Through Unity

Hello, everyone! I’m so excited to be here with you today to introduce an imaginary conversation that is truly transformative. We are about to explore one of the most important discussions of our time—how love, compassion, and unity can help us build a peaceful world, one where every individual, no matter their religion, background, or beliefs, feels embraced and valued.

Today, we’ll hear from some of the greatest spiritual minds and leaders, including Rev. Moon, Karen Armstrong, Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, and Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. These are voices of wisdom and action who are here to help us understand how peace isn’t just an ideal—it’s something we create together, through our choices, our compassion, and our daily acts of love.

So sit back, open your hearts and minds, and get ready to be inspired by this incredible dialogue on how we can each take steps toward making peace a lived reality for ourselves and the world. Let’s begin!

The Role of Religion in Promoting Global Peace

Nick Sasaki:
Welcome, everyone. Today, we’re diving into a deeply relevant and important topic—The Role of Religion in Promoting Global Peace. We have an incredible panel of leaders who have dedicated their lives to fostering peace across religious and cultural divides. Let’s begin with you, Rev. Moon. You’ve spoken passionately about peace being more than just an idea but a mission. How do you see religion playing a role in achieving global peace?

Rev. Moon:
Thank you, Nick. Peace is the greatest mission of my life, and I believe the power of religion is essential in achieving it. The world we see today is divided, not just by borders but by the walls we build within our hearts. Religions, despite their differences, share one common goal—to bring people closer to God. It’s like a river with many streams flowing into it. These streams represent the different faiths. No stream is rejected; they all flow toward the same destination—the ocean, which in this case represents an ideal world of peace. But for religions to fulfill this role, we must first break down the barriers of superiority and avarice that plague our hearts.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a powerful analogy. The idea of streams joining into a single river resonates deeply. Your Holiness the Dalai Lama, you’ve often spoken about the need for compassion and unity. How do you view the role of religion in uniting people, especially in a world that is increasingly divided?

Dalai Lama:
Yes, Nick, thank you. I agree with Rev. Moon's analogy. The different religions are like rivers flowing into the same ocean. While each faith has its own distinct practices and beliefs, the essence of all religions is compassion, love, and peace. These are values that every person can embrace. I often say that my religion is simple—my religion is kindness. When we recognize that the core of all faiths is the same, the divisions that we see—between people, races, or nations—can slowly dissolve. The real challenge is transforming these ideals into action. To promote peace, we must cultivate inner peace within ourselves first, and religions are the pathway for many to find that.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a profound point. Inner peace as a foundation for global peace. Archbishop Tutu, you’ve been a warrior for justice and reconciliation, especially in your work during apartheid in South Africa. How does your faith inform your vision of global peace, and what do you think needs to happen to foster interfaith collaboration?

Archbishop Desmond Tutu:
Thank you, Nick. You know, I always say that God’s dream for us is that we should live in harmony, not just with ourselves but with others, regardless of race, religion, or nationality. What strikes me about Rev. Moon’s vision is this idea of breaking down walls between religions. Far too often, we’ve used religion as an excuse to build walls, to claim that we are right and others are wrong. But if we truly follow the teachings of Jesus, or the Buddha, or any of the great spiritual leaders, we find the call to love—to love our neighbor as ourselves. That love compels us to tear down the barriers between us and work toward a shared vision of peace. The religious communities must lead by example, showing that it is possible to embrace differences while working together for the greater good.

Nick Sasaki:
Yes, love and compassion seem to be at the heart of everyone’s vision so far. Imam Feisal, you’ve done incredible work in fostering understanding between Islam and the West, particularly through interfaith dialogue. What role do you see for Islam and other religions in promoting a unified vision for global peace?

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf:
Thank you, Nick, and it’s a privilege to be part of this conversation. Islam, like all the great religions, is fundamentally about peace. In fact, the word "Islam" comes from the root word "salaam," which means peace. However, the unfortunate reality is that throughout history, religion has been misused as a tool for division and conflict. This is not what any faith teaches. The Qur’an emphasizes that diversity is a sign from God, and that people of different faiths should come together in mutual respect. I often speak about the "Abrahamic family"—Judaism, Christianity, and Islam—and how we share not only a common lineage but also common values. Our differences should not lead to conflict; instead, they should enrich our understanding of one another. The key to global peace is understanding and accepting each other’s differences while focusing on the shared goal of building a harmonious world.

Nick Sasaki:
It’s inspiring to hear how each of you, from different religious traditions, find common ground in the pursuit of peace. Rev. Moon, you’ve talked about the power of religion as a force of love that can unite the world. What do you think is the biggest challenge religions face today in realizing this vision of unity?

Rev. Moon:
The greatest challenge, Nick, is pride and avarice within individuals and institutions. Too many people and religious leaders hold onto the belief that their way is the only way, which leads to division. Instead of building bridges, they build higher walls. But if we can overcome this selfishness—this idea that only our own religion is superior—we can achieve true peace. We must all remember that the goal is not personal glory or wealth, but the creation of a world where every person, regardless of their faith, can live in peace and harmony with one another. It will take great effort, but if we put aside our egos and focus on love and compassion, peace will follow.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a strong call for humility and collective effort. Thank you all for sharing your insights. This conversation shows how, regardless of the differences between faiths, there is a shared vision for peace that we can all work toward. It’s been an honor to host this dialogue, and I believe the steps each of you outlined can guide us toward a future where religion plays a leading role in bringing about global peace.

Overcoming Avarice and Selfishness for Societal Transformation

Nick Sasaki:
Welcome back, everyone. Today, we’re exploring a critical issue that affects the very fabric of our societies—Overcoming Avarice and Selfishness for Societal Transformation. With us again are Rev. Moon, Thich Nhat Hanh, Karen Armstrong, and Pope Francis. Let’s begin with Rev. Moon. In your autobiography, you speak about how avarice starts in the hearts of individuals and spreads to nations, causing division and conflict. How do we begin to address this issue on a global scale?

Rev. Moon:
Thank you, Nick. The root of many of the world’s problems—conflict, poverty, and environmental destruction—can be traced to selfishness and greed. We see this in individuals, in businesses, and in nations. When a person focuses only on their own gain, without regard for others, they end up destroying not only those around them but themselves as well. I believe that to overcome avarice, there must be a complete revolution in how people think. We need to cultivate a mindset where we look out for others first. This applies to individuals, families, and nations. The teachings of religion are vital here. Love, sacrifice, and selflessness are at the heart of every true faith. If we can instill these values, we will see true societal transformation.

Nick Sasaki:
You speak of a revolution in thinking, Rev. Moon, and it sounds like a profound internal shift. Thich Nhat Hanh, your teachings emphasize mindfulness and the transformation of individuals. How do you see inner transformation as a key to addressing the selfishness and avarice that we see in society?

Thich Nhat Hanh:
Thank you, Nick. I agree with Rev. Moon. In Buddhism, we believe that true change begins within. If we want to transform society, we must first transform ourselves. This means recognizing the seeds of greed and selfishness within us and cultivating seeds of compassion, understanding, and love. When we practice mindfulness, we become aware of our actions and their impact on others. As we cultivate compassion for ourselves and others, we naturally become less selfish. The practice of mindfulness helps us realize that we are all interconnected, and that when we harm others, we also harm ourselves. If enough people can awaken to this truth, society will begin to change.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a powerful perspective, focusing on mindfulness as a way to address selfishness at its root. Karen Armstrong, your work on compassion as a universal value across religions has touched many. How do you think compassion can help counteract the avarice that Rev. Moon and Thich Nhat Hanh have discussed?

Karen Armstrong:
Thank you, Nick. Compassion, at its core, is the ability to feel what others are feeling—to step into their shoes. Every major religion teaches compassion as a way to transcend selfishness. But, unfortunately, in modern society, we’ve been taught to prioritize individual success over the well-being of the community. This culture of individualism feeds greed and avarice. If we can refocus our religious and educational systems to emphasize the importance of compassion—making it a core principle in our decision-making—then we can begin to see a shift. Compassion isn’t just about feeling sorry for others, it’s about taking action to alleviate suffering. It challenges us to look beyond our personal desires and work for the common good.

Nick Sasaki:
That resonates deeply, Karen. If we can turn compassion into action, it can have a transformative effect on society. Pope Francis, you’ve been a vocal critic of the culture of consumerism and greed, often emphasizing the need for economic justice and solidarity with the poor. How do you see selfishness playing a role in today’s global challenges, and how can we combat it?

Pope Francis:
Thank you, Nick. Yes, the selfishness we see in the world today is not just an individual problem—it’s systemic. Our economic systems often promote greed and reward those who exploit others. The rich become richer while the poor are forgotten. This is not the way of Christ, nor the way of any true religion. Jesus taught us to love our neighbors as ourselves and to give to those in need. We must return to these values. The path forward requires that we stand in solidarity with the poor and marginalized. Selfishness blinds us to the suffering of others, but when we open our hearts, when we practice generosity, we begin to see the world through God’s eyes. It’s about creating a culture of encounter, where we see each person as a brother or sister and treat them with dignity.

Nick Sasaki:
It’s clear from what each of you has shared that overcoming selfishness is a deeply spiritual and practical journey. Rev. Moon, you’ve emphasized that societal transformation starts with individuals, but also mentioned the role of nations. How do you think we can encourage governments and institutions to prioritize peace and generosity over power and greed?

Rev. Moon:
That is indeed one of the greatest challenges, Nick. Institutions and governments are often driven by their own interests, especially in terms of wealth and power. But if we are to see true peace in the world, this must change. Leaders need to be guided by the principles of love and service. In my work, I have always encouraged leaders to see their role as serving their people, not ruling over them. Religions have an important role here too. We must be the conscience of society, guiding and reminding leaders of their higher purpose. It is not enough to address avarice on an individual level—we must also reform our institutions to reflect values of compassion and selflessness.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s an excellent point. We need both individual and systemic change. Thich Nhat Hanh, you often talk about the importance of collective awakening. How can communities come together to overcome these larger societal issues of greed and selfishness?

Thich Nhat Hanh:
Yes, Nick. Individual transformation is important, but it must be coupled with collective transformation. We cannot do this alone. This is why we create sanghas, or communities of practice, where people support one another in their mindfulness and compassion. When communities come together with the intention of practicing love, understanding, and generosity, they create a powerful force for change. They become a model for the larger society. Through collective action—whether in meditation, service, or advocacy—we can challenge the systems of greed that dominate our world. But it all starts with mindful living and compassion, and from there, it grows.

Nick Sasaki:
Thank you, Thich Nhat Hanh. This collective effort is crucial, and it’s inspiring to see how each of you, through your different traditions, calls for a world where love and compassion prevail over greed. Pope Francis, I’d like to give you the final word. What is your message to the world when it comes to overcoming selfishness and working toward a more just and peaceful society?

Pope Francis:
Thank you, Nick. My message is simple: we must return to the path of love and service. When we are selfish, we are empty. When we give to others, we are filled with the love of God. Society will not change unless we change our hearts. We must care for the poor, protect the vulnerable, and work for peace. If we open our hearts and live for others, we will find that the world becomes a much better place for everyone. This is the gospel of Jesus Christ, and it is the foundation of all true peace.

Nick Sasaki:
Thank you, Pope Francis, and thank you to everyone on this panel for sharing such meaningful insights. This conversation reminds us that real societal transformation begins in our hearts and extends to the structures of our world. Let’s continue to strive for a world where compassion, generosity, and peace are at the forefront of all that we do.

The Power of Interfaith Unity in Achieving World Harmony

Nick Sasaki:
Welcome, everyone, to another powerful conversation. Today’s topic is The Power of Interfaith Unity in Achieving World Harmony. I’m honored to have with us Rev. Moon, Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and Archbishop Desmond Tutu. The idea of different faiths coming together to create peace is at the heart of much of your work, Rev. Moon. You’ve often talked about religions being like streams that flow into a single river. How do you see interfaith unity as the key to world harmony?

Rev. Moon:
Thank you, Nick. Yes, the metaphor of streams joining a river has always resonated with me. In this world, we have many different religions, each with its own path and practices, but all are ultimately moving toward the same goal—peace and unity under God. Interfaith unity is essential because no single religion can solve the world's problems alone. We need the collective wisdom, love, and compassion of all faiths to heal the divisions among people. It is not enough for each religion to pursue its own vision of peace; we must come together, recognizing our shared purpose. Only then can we achieve true world harmony.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a beautiful vision, Rev. Moon. Rabbi Sacks, you’ve been a leader in promoting religious tolerance and dialogue between different faiths. How do you view the role of interfaith collaboration in creating harmony in today’s divided world?

Rabbi Jonathan Sacks:
Thank you, Nick. I deeply resonate with what Rev. Moon has said. We live in a world that is more interconnected than ever, yet we often see divisions and conflicts arising from religious and cultural differences. The key to overcoming this lies in recognizing what we share, rather than what divides us. Every major religion teaches that human life is sacred, that we are all created in the image of God, and that we are responsible for one another. Interfaith collaboration allows us to build bridges based on these shared values. It’s about coming together to fight the real enemies—poverty, ignorance, hatred, and violence—not each other. When we embrace interfaith unity, we begin to heal the wounds of division and create a more peaceful world.

Nick Sasaki:
Exactly, Rabbi Sacks. That focus on shared values is crucial. Imam Feisal, you’ve been at the forefront of fostering understanding between Islam and other faiths, particularly after 9/11. How do you see interfaith unity contributing to a more harmonious world?

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf:
Thank you, Nick. In Islam, there is a profound teaching that diversity is a sign of God’s wisdom and creativity. The Qur’an says, "O mankind, We created you from a single pair of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another." This verse highlights the importance of understanding and appreciating our differences. Interfaith unity is about recognizing that diversity is not a weakness, but a strength. When we come together, we bring different perspectives and wisdom that enrich our shared understanding of God and the world. Through dialogue, we can dispel misconceptions and build mutual respect. This is how we move toward harmony—by celebrating both our commonalities and our differences in the spirit of peace.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s such a powerful perspective, Imam Feisal. Diversity as a strength is something that all of us can learn from. Archbishop Tutu, you’ve seen firsthand the power of reconciliation and unity in your work against apartheid. How does interfaith unity play a role in building a more peaceful and just world?

Archbishop Desmond Tutu:
Thank you, Nick. I’ve always said that we are all God’s children, created to live together in harmony. One of the things I learned during the struggle against apartheid is that injustice and division can only be overcome when people of all backgrounds—of all faiths—stand together. It’s not just about tolerance; it’s about embracing one another in love. Interfaith unity is essential because it shows the world that we can be different and still be united in purpose. Whether we are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, or from any other faith, we are all striving for the same things: peace, justice, and dignity for every human being. When we come together, we demonstrate that love is stronger than hate, and unity is stronger than division. This is the foundation for building a truly harmonious world.

Nick Sasaki:
It’s inspiring to hear how each of you views interfaith unity not just as a nice idea, but as a powerful force for real-world change. Rev. Moon, you’ve mentioned that tearing down the walls between religions is one of the most difficult tasks. What do you see as the greatest challenges to achieving interfaith unity, and how can we overcome them?

Rev. Moon:
The greatest challenge, Nick, is pride. Too often, people and religious institutions believe that their way is the only way. This pride creates walls of division, as each religion tries to assert its superiority over the others. But the truth is, no religion can claim to know the fullness of God’s will. We are all seeking the same truth, even if we walk different paths. To overcome these challenges, we must cultivate humility and recognize that every religion has something valuable to contribute. This requires a change in how religious leaders and followers think. We must stop seeing each other as competitors and instead see ourselves as partners in the mission of peace. Only by working together can we create the harmonious world we all desire.

Nick Sasaki:
Humility as a path to unity—I love that. Rabbi Sacks, you’ve spoken about the importance of dialogue in breaking down barriers between faiths. What do you think are the most effective ways for different religious communities to come together and foster this kind of unity?

Rabbi Jonathan Sacks:
Dialogue is crucial, Nick, but it must be dialogue rooted in mutual respect and a genuine desire to learn from one another. Too often, we engage in dialogue just to reaffirm our own beliefs, rather than to truly understand the other. Effective interfaith dialogue requires that we listen as much as we speak, and that we approach each conversation with an open heart. We must be willing to acknowledge the shared values that unite us, even as we respect the differences that make each faith unique. Practical actions—like joint service projects, where people of different faiths come together to serve the poor or protect the environment—are also powerful ways to build unity. When we work together for the common good, we build relationships of trust and solidarity.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a great point, Rabbi. Action can bring people together in ways that words sometimes can’t. Imam Feisal, what practical steps can religious communities take to promote interfaith collaboration and build trust between different faith groups?

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf:
One of the most important steps, Nick, is education. Misunderstanding and fear often arise from ignorance. When people are educated about other faiths, when they are exposed to the teachings, practices, and values of different religions, fear gives way to respect and curiosity. Religious leaders and communities should create spaces for interfaith learning, where people can ask questions and engage in meaningful dialogue. Another practical step is to focus on shared goals. Whether it’s addressing poverty, combating climate change, or promoting human rights, faith communities can unite around common causes. This not only strengthens relationships between different religious groups but also demonstrates that our differences are secondary to our shared mission of improving the world.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a great strategy, Imam Feisal—education and shared action as keys to trust and unity. Archbishop Tutu, you’ve always emphasized the power of love in breaking down barriers. What role do you think love and compassion play in fostering interfaith unity?

Archbishop Desmond Tutu:
Nick, love is everything. Without love, there can be no unity. When we truly love one another, we see past our differences and recognize the divine in every person. Love allows us to embrace others, not in spite of their differences, but because of them. It’s love that leads us to forgive, to reconcile, and to work together for a better world. Interfaith unity is impossible without love and compassion. We may not always agree, but when we love one another, we can find ways to work together. This is the heart of what God desires for humanity. When we are bound together by love, nothing can tear us apart—not even the walls that have separated religions for centuries.

Nick Sasaki:
Thank you, Archbishop Tutu. It’s clear that love, compassion, and humility are the foundations of interfaith unity. I want to thank all of you—Rev. Moon, Rabbi Sacks, Imam Feisal, and Archbishop Tutu—for sharing your wisdom today. This conversation reminds us that while our paths may differ, our destination is the same: a world where peace, harmony, and unity prevail. Let’s continue working together toward that goal.

The Necessity of Love and Compassion in Building a Peaceful World

Nick Sasaki:
Welcome back, everyone. Today, we’ll be discussing a topic that’s at the heart of every major religion—The Necessity of Love and Compassion in Building a Peaceful World. Our panel today includes Rev. Moon, Pope Francis, Thich Nhat Hanh, and the Dalai Lama. Let’s begin with you, Rev. Moon. In your work, you’ve often spoken about love as a force for peace. How do you see love and compassion as central to creating the world of peace that you envision?

Rev. Moon:
Thank you, Nick. Love and compassion are not just feelings; they are the very foundation of peace. Without love, there can be no peace. Love connects people across divisions of race, religion, and nationality, and it compels us to see each other as brothers and sisters under God. True peace is born when we love others as we love ourselves, when we put their needs ahead of our own. The power of love can heal the wounds of history and dissolve the conflicts that have torn people apart. This is why I have dedicated my life to spreading this message of love—because without it, no amount of diplomacy or negotiation will create lasting peace.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a powerful way to look at love—as an active force, not just an emotion. Pope Francis, you’ve often spoken about the need for a “revolution of tenderness.” How do you see love and compassion shaping the future of our world?

Pope Francis:
Thank you, Nick. Yes, I believe we are in desperate need of a revolution of tenderness, as I’ve called it. Tenderness is the ability to draw close to others, to feel their suffering, and to care for them with compassion. In a world where there is so much suffering, where people are pushed aside and ignored, we need to rediscover the power of love to heal and restore dignity. Love is not something abstract—it must be concrete. We see it in the way we treat the poor, the vulnerable, and the marginalized. It is through acts of love that we build a society that values every person. Without love, we are lost, but with love, we can transform our world into a place of peace, justice, and fraternity.

Nick Sasaki:
I love that—making love and compassion concrete through action. Thich Nhat Hanh, your teachings on mindfulness and compassion have touched people all over the world. How do you see compassion playing a role in creating a peaceful world?

Thich Nhat Hanh:
Thank you, Nick. Compassion is the essence of peace. When we cultivate compassion in ourselves, we begin to understand the suffering of others and are moved to help alleviate it. In Buddhism, we speak of “interbeing”—the understanding that we are all connected, that our happiness is tied to the happiness of others. This means that to build peace, we must first cultivate peace in our own hearts through mindfulness. Compassion begins with seeing ourselves in others. When we see that their suffering is our suffering, we can no longer turn away. We are called to act, not out of duty, but out of love. This is the foundation of a peaceful world—compassionate action born from understanding and mindfulness.

Nick Sasaki:
That interconnectedness you speak of, Thich Nhat Hanh, really highlights how we’re all part of something larger. Dalai Lama, you’ve often spoken about compassion as a universal value. How do you see compassion uniting people and bringing about peace in the world?

Dalai Lama:
Yes, thank you, Nick. Compassion is the universal bridge that connects all of humanity. Whether we are religious or not, we all have the capacity for compassion. It is this capacity that allows us to reach across boundaries—of religion, nationality, and culture—and recognize the shared humanity in every person. Compassion is the antidote to anger, greed, and violence, which are the causes of so much suffering in the world. When we practice compassion, we not only help others, but we also heal ourselves. A peaceful world is built on the foundation of compassion, because compassion dissolves the barriers that divide us. It helps us see that we are all seeking the same things—happiness, security, and love.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a powerful way to frame compassion—as the universal bridge. Rev. Moon, you’ve mentioned before that love must go beyond the individual to reach entire nations and the world. How do you see love and compassion extending beyond personal relationships to influence global peace?

Rev. Moon:
Yes, Nick. Love is the starting point, but it cannot remain just between individuals. True love must extend to families, communities, and nations. When we practice love at this larger scale, we create a culture of peace. This is why I believe that religious leaders, political leaders, and all people of influence must be guided by love and compassion. If we can foster this spirit of love at every level of society, we will see real change. Governments must prioritize the well-being of all people, not just their own citizens. Nations must cooperate with each other in the spirit of love, not competition. Only then can we achieve a world where peace is truly possible.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s such a vital point—extending love beyond the personal to the global. Pope Francis, you’ve often called for a more inclusive world, where the vulnerable are cared for. How can compassion help us create more inclusive and just societies?

Pope Francis:
Compassion is the key, Nick. When we truly see the world through the eyes of compassion, we cannot ignore the suffering of others. This leads us to act—to create societies that are inclusive, where no one is left behind. Compassion pushes us to care for the poor, the marginalized, and those who are often forgotten. It challenges the structures of injustice that allow inequality to persist. But compassion must also be courageous. We must not be afraid to speak out for those who have no voice, to fight for justice even when it is difficult. Love and compassion are the driving forces behind creating a more just world, and they require us to take bold and decisive action.

Nick Sasaki:
Yes, compassion calls us to act with courage. Thich Nhat Hanh, you often teach about the power of mindful compassion. How do you see mindfulness helping individuals and societies cultivate more love and compassion?

Thich Nhat Hanh:
Mindfulness is the foundation of compassion, Nick. When we practice mindfulness, we become fully aware of the present moment and the people around us. We see their suffering, and we are moved to respond with compassion. Mindfulness helps us slow down, listen deeply, and respond with love rather than reacting with anger or fear. In a world that moves so fast, mindfulness allows us to connect deeply with others and to act with intention. When societies embrace mindfulness, they create space for compassion to flourish. Mindfulness in individuals leads to mindful communities, and these communities can bring about a peaceful and compassionate society.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s such a powerful way to see mindfulness—as a way to cultivate compassion in individuals and communities. Dalai Lama, I’d love for you to share your final thoughts on how love and compassion can serve as the foundation for a peaceful world.

Dalai Lama:
Thank you, Nick. Love and compassion are not just ideals—they are necessary for the survival of humanity. Without them, we will continue to see conflict, division, and suffering. But with them, we can build a world that is peaceful and just. Compassion allows us to see the best in others, to recognize our shared humanity, and to work together for the common good. It is the responsibility of each of us to cultivate compassion in our hearts and extend it to those around us. When we do this, we contribute to the creation of a more peaceful and harmonious world. It starts with each of us, but it can change the world.

Nick Sasaki:
Thank you, Dalai Lama. And thank you to all our panelists—Rev. Moon, Pope Francis, Thich Nhat Hanh—for sharing your wisdom today. It’s clear that love and compassion are not only essential for building a peaceful world, but also for transforming the way we relate to one another on every level. Let’s all take these teachings to heart and work together to make this world a more loving, compassionate, and peaceful place.

Peace as Concrete Action, Not Just Ideals

Nick Sasaki:
Welcome to our final discussion in this series. Today’s topic is Peace as Concrete Action, Not Just Ideals. It’s a concept that’s easy to talk about but much harder to put into practice. Our panel today includes Rev. Moon, Karen Armstrong, Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, and Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.  Rev. Moon, let’s start with you. You’ve emphasized that peace is not just a dream but something we must work for actively. How do you see peace as a form of action?

Rev. Moon:
Thank you, Nick. Yes, peace is not something we can simply wish for or talk about. It requires effort, commitment, and, most importantly, action. Throughout my life, I have devoted myself to building bridges between people, whether through interfaith work, reconciliation efforts, or helping communities in need. Peace begins with each individual, but it must extend into families, societies, and nations. Concrete actions, such as service, dialogue, and cooperation, are necessary to build the foundations of peace. We cannot wait for peace to come to us; we must create it through love, sacrifice, and a commitment to the greater good.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a clear call to action. Karen, you’ve written extensively about compassion and how it can be a driving force for peace. How do you think we can move from the ideal of peace to making it a reality through concrete actions?

Karen Armstrong:
Thank you, Nick. The key is to understand that peace requires more than just good intentions—it requires commitment to action at every level of society. One of the most important actions we can take is to cultivate empathy and understanding between people of different backgrounds. This begins with education, particularly about other cultures and religions. We must teach our children, and ourselves, that diversity is something to be celebrated, not feared. Another concrete step is to encourage dialogue between different communities. When we come together to listen to one another, we can break down the barriers of misunderstanding that often lead to conflict. Finally, we must engage in acts of compassion—helping those in need, whether through charitable work or simply offering support to those who are struggling. Peace is built through these small but powerful actions that collectively change the world.

Nick Sasaki:
You’re absolutely right—dialogue and education are crucial. Rabbi Sacks, you’ve been an advocate for building understanding between faiths and cultures. What do you believe are the concrete steps we need to take to turn peace from an ideal into action?

Rabbi Jonathan Sacks:
Thank you, Nick. The first concrete step is recognizing that peace is not the absence of war but the presence of justice and respect for human dignity. If we want peace, we need to create the conditions that make peace possible—ensuring that every individual has the opportunity to live with dignity, safety, and hope. This requires political leaders to act justly, for businesses to operate ethically, and for all of us to treat one another with respect and kindness. On a practical level, we can take action by promoting interfaith dialogue, supporting organizations that work for human rights, and standing up against injustice when we see it. Peace doesn’t just happen; it’s something we must all work toward, through small daily acts of kindness as well as larger societal efforts.

Nick Sasaki:
Justice and dignity are essential components of peace, as you’ve pointed out, Rabbi Sacks. Imam Feisal, you’ve been involved in many interfaith initiatives aimed at building peace. What are the practical steps that we, as individuals and communities, can take to make peace a reality?

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf:
Thank you, Nick. I believe that one of the most important steps is to build bridges of understanding between different communities. Many of the conflicts we see today arise from ignorance and fear of the “other.” As individuals, we can take concrete steps by engaging with people from different faiths, backgrounds, and cultures. Simple acts, like attending interfaith events or even having a meal with someone from a different background, can go a long way toward building peace. On a larger scale, we need to work on policies and initiatives that promote inclusivity and mutual respect. Communities and leaders should create spaces for dialogue, where differences can be acknowledged and celebrated, and where we can work together to solve shared problems. Ultimately, peace is a collective effort, and it starts with each of us being willing to take the first step toward understanding and cooperation.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s an important reminder, Imam Feisal, about the power of small actions in our daily lives. Rev. Moon, you’ve mentioned before that peace often requires sacrifice. Could you elaborate on what kind of sacrifices individuals and societies need to make in order to move from ideals to action?

Rev. Moon:
Yes, Nick. Peace does indeed require sacrifice—sometimes very great sacrifice. This could mean giving up our personal interests for the greater good or working tirelessly for a cause, even when it is difficult. On an individual level, we must be willing to set aside our own desires and pride to serve others. At the societal level, nations must be willing to compromise and cooperate for the sake of peace, even when it means giving up certain privileges or advantages. Sacrifice is the price we pay for peace, but it is a price worth paying. Through sacrifice, we demonstrate the sincerity of our commitment to peace, and we pave the way for a future where peace is not just an ideal but a reality.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s a powerful perspective—peace as something we must be willing to work and sacrifice for. Karen, you’ve written about the “Golden Rule” that appears in so many faith traditions. How do you see this principle as a guide for concrete actions that promote peace?

Karen Armstrong:
The Golden Rule—treating others as we would like to be treated—is the simplest yet most powerful guide for creating peace. If we truly lived by this principle, we would naturally act with kindness, empathy, and respect. The Golden Rule encourages us to put ourselves in the shoes of others, to consider their needs and perspectives. This is not just an ideal; it’s a very practical guide for how we can live every day. If we treat others with fairness and compassion in our interactions—whether in our families, workplaces, or communities—we contribute to a more peaceful world. The challenge is in applying this consistently, but if we all strive to live by this principle, the world would be a much more harmonious place.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s an excellent reminder, Karen. The Golden Rule is such a simple yet profound way to guide our actions. Rabbi Sacks, you’ve spoken about peace being a collective effort. What role do communities play in turning peace from an ideal into concrete reality?

Rabbi Jonathan Sacks:
Communities are essential, Nick. Peace cannot be achieved by individuals alone—it requires collective action. Communities can model the kind of world we want to see by promoting inclusivity, justice, and mutual respect. When communities come together to support one another, to celebrate diversity, and to work toward common goals, they create the building blocks of a peaceful society. Faith communities, in particular, have a unique role to play because they are rooted in values of love, compassion, and service. By working together across faiths and cultures, communities can demonstrate that peace is not just a lofty ideal but something that can be realized in everyday life through cooperation and shared purpose.

Nick Sasaki:
That’s so true—communities can be powerful agents of peace when they come together with shared values. Imam Feisal, I’d like to give you the final word. What is your message to people who want to move beyond talking about peace and start taking real action?

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf:
Thank you, Nick. My message is simple: each of us has a role to play in building peace, and it starts with taking small, concrete steps. Don’t wait for governments or leaders to act—start within your own sphere of influence. Reach out to someone different from you, offer a helping hand to those in need, and be an advocate for justice and inclusivity. These actions, though they may seem small, ripple out and create a wider impact. Peace is a journey, not a destination, and every step we take brings us closer to a world where peace is not just an ideal but a lived reality. We must all be willing to take that first step.

Nick Sasaki:
Thank you, Imam Feisal, and thank you to all our panelists—Rev. Moon, Karen Armstrong, Rabbi Sacks—for your insights. This conversation has reminded us that peace is within our reach, but it requires each of us to take concrete steps toward making it a reality. Let’s all commit to turning the ideals of peace into action, one step at a time.

Short Bios:

Dalai Lama
The Dalai Lama is the spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhism and a global advocate for peace, compassion, and human rights. Renowned for his teachings on non-violence, kindness, and the interconnectedness of all beings, he has devoted his life to promoting understanding and compassion across cultures and religions.

Archbishop Desmond Tutu
A South African Anglican bishop and anti-apartheid activist, Archbishop Tutu was a leading voice for justice, reconciliation, and forgiveness. He played a pivotal role in promoting peace and equality in South Africa and became a global icon for his work on human rights and unity across divides.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf
Imam Feisal is a prominent Islamic leader and scholar, known for his efforts in fostering interfaith dialogue and promoting understanding between Islam and the West. He is a strong advocate for peace, coexistence, and cultural understanding, particularly in the aftermath of 9/11.

Thich Nhat Hanh
Thich Nhat Hanh was a Vietnamese Zen master, poet, and peace activist who introduced mindfulness to the West. A revered Buddhist monk, he emphasized the power of mindfulness and compassion to bring about inner peace and social transformation. His teachings have inspired people globally to live more mindfully and compassionately.

Pope Francis
Pope Francis, the head of the Catholic Church, is known for his humility, focus on social justice, and emphasis on compassion for the marginalized. He has called for a “revolution of tenderness,” urging people to act with love and care for the poor, refugees, and the vulnerable, and to work toward peace and inclusivity.

Rabbi Jonathan Sacks
Rabbi Sacks was a British Orthodox rabbi, philosopher, and author, known for his leadership in interfaith dialogue and advocacy for peace and social justice. His writings on the dignity of human life, religious tolerance, and the need for cooperation across faiths have made him a respected global voice for unity and moral leadership.

Karen Armstrong
Karen Armstrong is a religious historian and best-selling author who has written extensively on the common values of the world’s religions. She is an advocate for the “Golden Rule” and compassion, believing that understanding and empathy between different faiths can pave the way for global peace and reconciliation.

Rev. Sun Myung Moon
Rev. Moon was a religious leader and the founder of the Unification Church, known for his dedication to world peace, interfaith cooperation, and family unity. He worked tirelessly to promote harmony between different religious and cultural groups, emphasizing the importance of love, sacrifice, and service for the greater good.