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Welcome, everyone, to a truly extraordinary and eye-opening discussion. Today, we're diving into the mysteries of the ancient world and how they intersect with the cutting-edge technology of our time. Imagine this: the Pyramids of Giza, those monumental structures that have stood the test of time, might have been built using techniques and technologies that are far more advanced than we’ve ever imagined. And this revelation is just the tip of the iceberg.
We have an incredible lineup of experts joining us today:
First, Gregg Braden, expert on ancient wisdom and modern science.
Next, Graham Hancock, investigator of lost civilizations and alternative archaeology.
Joining us as well, Robert Schoch, geologist and ancient history challenger.
Also with us is Linda Moulton Howe, investigative journalist and explorer of ancient mysteries.
And finally, Rupert Sheldrake, biologist and pioneer in consciousness studies.
This is an imaginary conversation that’s going to challenge everything you thought you knew about history, technology, and our place in the universe. So, let's get started and uncover the secrets that have been hidden for millennia.
The Cyclic Nature of Civilization
Nick Sasaki: Welcome, everyone, to this fascinating discussion on the cyclic nature of civilization. We’ve gathered some of the most insightful minds to explore a theory that challenges the conventional view of history. Gregg, let’s begin with you. Could you explain how recent discoveries are leading us to rethink the idea that civilization is linear?
Gregg Braden: Certainly, Nick. The traditional view has been that civilization started in a single location and gradually evolved over time. However, new archaeological evidence suggests that advanced civilizations have risen and fallen in cycles. This challenges the linear model of history and opens up the possibility that we are part of a recurring pattern of human development.
Nick Sasaki: Graham, you've done extensive research on ancient civilizations. How does this cyclic model align with what you've found?
Graham Hancock: It aligns very well, Nick. My research indicates that civilizations like those that built the pyramids and Göbekli Tepe possessed advanced knowledge long before what is traditionally acknowledged. The idea of a cyclic pattern fits with the sudden disappearance of these civilizations, suggesting they were reset by catastrophic events, only for new civilizations to rise in their place.
Nick Sasaki: Robert, your work on the Sphinx has been groundbreaking. How does this evidence support the idea of cyclic civilizations?
Robert Schoch: The water erosion on the Sphinx dates it to a much older period than traditionally accepted, implying that an advanced civilization existed long before the ancient Egyptians. This supports the idea that civilizations rise and fall in cycles, possibly due to natural disasters that reset human progress.
Nick Sasaki: Linda, you’ve studied various ancient traditions. How do these cycles appear in the cultural and cosmic contexts?
Linda Moulton Howe: Many ancient cultures, from the Hindus with their Yuga cycles to the Mayans with their calendar, speak of great cycles of time where humanity goes through periods of enlightenment and decline. These cycles suggest that the advanced knowledge seen in ancient civilizations could be remnants of previous cycles, preserved through traditions and secret teachings.
Nick Sasaki: Rupert, how does your concept of morphic resonance tie into this cyclic view of history?
Rupert Sheldrake: If we consider that each cycle of civilization leaves an imprint in the collective consciousness, these imprints could resurface as humanity evolves. This might explain how certain advanced technologies and knowledge reappear throughout history, as they are drawn from these morphic fields where past cycles of civilization are stored.
Nick Sasaki: Gregg, bringing this full circle, what does this cyclic model mean for us today?
Gregg Braden: It means we need to rethink our understanding of history and consider that we might be at a critical point in the cycle today. By learning from past cycles, we can better navigate our future and perhaps avoid the catastrophic events that have reset civilizations before us.
Advanced Technologies of Ancient Civilizations
Nick Sasaki: Thank you, everyone, for that deep dive into the cyclic nature of civilization. Now, let's shift gears to a topic that has fascinated many— the advanced technologies of ancient civilizations. Gregg, you’ve touched on this before, especially regarding the pyramids. Could you start us off by explaining what these technologies might tell us about our ancestors?
Gregg Braden: Absolutely, Nick. The advanced technologies seen in structures like the pyramids suggest that our ancestors possessed knowledge and capabilities far beyond what we traditionally attribute to them. For instance, the precision with which the Great Pyramid of Giza was constructed, using massive limestone blocks that weigh up to 20 tons each, is something that modern technology struggles to replicate. The alignment with celestial bodies, the mathematical precision, and the sheer scale of these projects indicate that these were not primitive people but highly advanced engineers and astronomers.
Nick Sasaki: Graham, you've studied these structures extensively. What do you believe is the origin of this advanced knowledge?
Graham Hancock: I believe that this knowledge comes from a much older civilization, possibly one that existed before the end of the last Ice Age. As Gregg mentioned, the precision and scale of these structures suggest that the people who built them had access to sophisticated technology and a deep understanding of the cosmos. The fact that similar pyramids and megalithic structures can be found all over the world—from Egypt to South America to Asia—hints at a lost, global civilization that shared this advanced knowledge.
Nick Sasaki: Robert, your research on the Sphinx has brought new insights into ancient technology. Can you share your thoughts on this?
Robert Schoch: Certainly, Nick. My research into the Sphinx’s weathering patterns, which indicate water erosion, suggests that it was built much earlier than traditionally believed—during a time when Egypt experienced significant rainfall. This implies that the technology and knowledge used to create the Sphinx were developed by a civilization that predates the ancient Egyptians. The precision with which the Sphinx and similar structures were carved, and the advanced understanding of geology required, further support the idea that these ancient peoples were far more technologically advanced than we’ve given them credit for.
Nick Sasaki: Linda, you’ve explored mysterious technologies across various ancient sites. What are some examples that stand out to you?
Linda Moulton Howe: One of the most intriguing examples is the site of Göbekli Tepe in Turkey, which dates back over 12,000 years. The massive, precisely carved stone pillars there suggest the use of advanced tools and techniques that we do not fully understand today. Additionally, in the Indus Valley, we find evidence of sophisticated urban planning, with well-designed drainage systems and standardized weights and measures, indicating a high level of technological development. These examples challenge the notion that ancient civilizations were primitive and instead suggest that they had access to sophisticated knowledge, possibly inherited from an even earlier civilization.
Nick Sasaki: Rupert, how does the concept of advanced ancient technology tie into your ideas on morphic resonance and collective memory?
Rupert Sheldrake: It’s fascinating to consider that the advanced technologies of ancient civilizations might not only be a result of direct transmission of knowledge but also a product of collective memory. If these civilizations were tapping into a shared field of knowledge—what I refer to as morphic resonance—it could explain how such similar technologies and architectural styles emerged independently across the globe. This field could carry the imprints of past technological achievements, allowing subsequent civilizations to intuitively access and apply them, even without direct contact.
Nick Sasaki: Gregg, to bring this full circle, what can we learn from these advanced technologies about our potential today?
Gregg Braden: These technologies remind us that human potential is vast, and perhaps largely untapped. Our ancestors were not primitive; they were advanced in ways we are only beginning to understand. By studying these ancient technologies, we can not only learn about the past but also inspire innovations today. They challenge us to rethink what we are capable of, to explore new ways of integrating ancient wisdom with modern science, and to recognize that there may be much more to human history—and our potential—than we’ve ever imagined.
Anomalies in Archaeological Discoveries
Nick Sasaki: Moving on to our next topic, let’s discuss the growing number of anomalies in archaeological discoveries that are challenging the standard historical model. Gregg, you've been vocal about how these findings are rewriting our understanding of ancient human history. Could you give us an overview of these anomalies?
Gregg Braden: Certainly, Nick. Over the past few decades, we’ve seen a surge in archaeological discoveries that don’t fit the conventional timeline of human history. These anomalies range from structures like Göbekli Tepe, which dates back over 12,000 years, to submerged cities like the one found off the coast of India in the Gulf of Cambay, estimated to be around 9,500 years old. These sites predate the rise of the known ancient civilizations and suggest that complex societies existed long before what mainstream history teaches. These anomalies force us to reconsider our understanding of human history and the evolution of civilization.
Nick Sasaki: Graham, how do these anomalies fit into the broader narrative of ancient history that you’ve been exploring?
Graham Hancock: These anomalies are crucial pieces of the puzzle, Nick. They suggest that human civilization is far older and more complex than we’ve been led to believe. Sites like Göbekli Tepe and the submerged city in the Gulf of Cambay imply that advanced civilizations existed at a time when, according to the conventional model, humans were still hunter-gatherers. The fact that these sites are so ancient yet show signs of sophisticated architecture and urban planning indicates that we’ve overlooked entire chapters of our history. These anomalies are not just outliers; they are rewriting the story of human civilization.
Nick Sasaki: Robert, your work on the Sphinx is often cited as a significant anomaly. How does this discovery contribute to the growing body of evidence challenging the standard model?
Robert Schoch: The Sphinx is indeed a key anomaly, Nick. The evidence of water erosion on the Sphinx suggests that it was built during a time of significant rainfall in Egypt, which would date it back to at least 9,000 years ago, if not earlier. This finding contradicts the traditional dating of the Sphinx to around 4,500 years ago. The implications are profound because it suggests that an advanced civilization capable of such monumental architecture existed much earlier than previously thought. This anomaly, along with others, is compelling evidence that our current understanding of history is incomplete.
Nick Sasaki: Linda, you’ve investigated a variety of archaeological anomalies worldwide. What are some that stand out to you, and what do they suggest about our past?
Linda Moulton Howe: One of the most striking anomalies is the site of Baalbek in Lebanon, where we find massive megalithic stones weighing up to 1,200 tons, far beyond the capabilities of any known ancient culture. The precision with which these stones were cut and placed is still a mystery. Another example is the underwater ruins off the coast of Japan at Yonaguni, which some believe are remnants of a lost civilization. These sites suggest that there were advanced cultures with technologies and knowledge that have been lost to time. The anomalies are like breadcrumbs, leading us to a broader and deeper understanding of human history that we’re only beginning to uncover.
Nick Sasaki: Rupert, how might these anomalies be explained through the lens of morphic resonance and collective consciousness?
Rupert Sheldrake: These anomalies could indeed be seen as evidence of a collective memory or knowledge that has been preserved across generations, even if the physical evidence was lost or forgotten. Morphic resonance suggests that once a particular form or structure has been established, it becomes easier to recreate or rediscover, even across vast periods of time. This could explain why we find similar advanced technologies and architectural styles in cultures separated by millennia and geography. The anomalies we’re seeing might be the result of ancient civilizations tapping into a shared field of knowledge that transcends individual cultures.
Nick Sasaki: Gregg, to wrap up this discussion, what do you think is the significance of these anomalies for our understanding of human history?
Gregg Braden: These anomalies are crucial because they challenge the linear narrative of human history that has dominated our understanding for so long. They suggest that human civilization is far older and more advanced than we’ve been taught. By acknowledging these anomalies and integrating them into our historical narrative, we open the door to new possibilities about our past, our origins, and our potential. It’s an exciting time for archaeology and history, as these discoveries are forcing us to rewrite the story of humanity.
The Role of Antarctica in Ancient Civilizations
Nick Sasaki: Thank you for those insights on archaeological anomalies. Now, let’s turn our attention to a particularly intriguing and mysterious topic—Antarctica. There have been various reports and theories suggesting that beneath the ice lies evidence of ancient civilizations, perhaps even a "mother civilization." Gregg, could you start us off by discussing the significance of Antarctica in the context of ancient history?
Gregg Braden: Certainly, Nick. Antarctica is one of the most mysterious and least understood regions on our planet. Recent satellite imagery, combined with historical records and indigenous legends, has led to speculation that ancient structures might be buried beneath its ice. Some of these images show what appear to be massive, complex structures that could be remnants of an ancient civilization. If true, this could dramatically change our understanding of global history, suggesting that Antarctica was once home to an advanced culture, potentially even predating other known civilizations. The idea that Antarctica could have played a significant role in human history is both fascinating and revolutionary.
Nick Sasaki: Linda, you’ve done extensive research on this subject. What have you found regarding these mysterious structures in Antarctica?
Linda Moulton Howe: Nick, Antarctica is indeed a place of great intrigue. There have been multiple reports and claims from researchers and whistleblowers about ancient ruins buried beneath the ice, some of which are believed to be pyramids or other large structures. The ice in Antarctica has been there for over 20,000 years, which suggests that any civilization capable of building such structures would have existed long before the end of the last Ice Age. Moreover, indigenous myths and legends from around the world often speak of a great civilization that was lost beneath the ice. If these structures are real, they could represent the remains of a highly advanced civilization, possibly even a "mother civilization" that influenced others across the globe.
Nick Sasaki: Graham, how does the possibility of an ancient civilization in Antarctica fit into the broader narrative of lost civilizations?
Graham Hancock: The idea that Antarctica could be home to an ancient, lost civilization fits well with the broader narrative that human history is far older and more complex than we’ve been taught. If we consider the possibility that Antarctica was once free of ice and home to an advanced civilization, it could explain the sudden appearance of highly developed societies in other parts of the world. These survivors might have spread their knowledge to places like Egypt, Mesopotamia, and South America, which would account for the similarities in architecture and technology across these distant regions. The Antarctic civilization could be the missing link in our understanding of how advanced knowledge spread around the world.
Nick Sasaki: Robert, from a geological perspective, how plausible is it that Antarctica could have supported a civilization in the distant past?
Robert Schoch: From a geological standpoint, it’s not entirely out of the question that Antarctica could have supported a civilization in the distant past. There’s evidence to suggest that the continent may have been ice-free during warmer periods in Earth’s history, such as the last interglacial period over 100,000 years ago. If a civilization existed there, it could have thrived in a temperate climate before the ice sheets formed. The discovery of complex structures beneath the ice would indicate that these people had advanced knowledge of construction and possibly even technology to deal with the challenging environment. The geological record does support the possibility that Antarctica was once much more hospitable to life.
Nick Sasaki: Rupert, how might the concept of a lost civilization in Antarctica be understood through the lens of morphic resonance or collective memory?
Rupert Sheldrake: If there was indeed an advanced civilization in Antarctica, it’s possible that the knowledge and memory of this civilization were imprinted in the collective consciousness of humanity. Through the concept of morphic resonance, these imprints could resurface in later civilizations around the world, influencing their development in ways we might not fully understand. The similarities in ancient architecture, cosmology, and technology across various cultures could be seen as echoes of this lost Antarctic civilization. Even if the physical evidence has been buried for millennia, the knowledge might persist in the human subconscious, subtly guiding the progress of future civilizations.
Nick Sasaki: Gregg, to conclude this topic, what are the potential implications if we were to discover that Antarctica was once home to an advanced civilization?
Gregg Braden: The implications would be profound, Nick. Such a discovery would force us to completely rethink our understanding of human history, the timeline of civilization, and the interconnectedness of ancient cultures. It would suggest that we’ve only scratched the surface of our true origins and that much of what we consider to be "history" is actually the result of knowledge passed down from even earlier, now-lost civilizations. Additionally, it could open up new avenues of research into how these civilizations achieved their technological feats and what lessons we might learn from them today. Ultimately, uncovering an ancient civilization in Antarctica would be one of the most significant archaeological discoveries in history.
The Impact of Technology on Human Sovereignty and Divinity
Nick Sasaki: Now, let’s move into a topic that bridges the ancient with the modern—the impact of technology on human sovereignty and divinity. Gregg, you’ve spoken about how ancient technologies and knowledge could inspire us today, but there’s also a concern about how modern technology might be influencing, or even diminishing, our humanity. Can you start by explaining what you see as the key issues here?
Gregg Braden: Certainly, Nick. The key issue at hand is that while technology has the potential to enhance our lives, it also poses a significant risk to our sovereignty and connection to our innate human potential. Ancient civilizations, as we've discussed, were able to achieve remarkable feats without the modern technology we rely on today. They tapped into a deep understanding of the natural world, possibly even harnessing aspects of consciousness and spirituality that we've since lost touch with. Today, we face the temptation to replace these natural capabilities with artificial technologies—whether through AI, digital interfaces, or even genetic modifications—that could ultimately undermine our humanity rather than enhance it.
Nick Sasaki: Linda, you’ve researched the implications of emerging technologies. What are your thoughts on how these technologies might affect our spiritual and human sovereignty?
Linda Moulton Howe: Nick, the rapid advancement of technology presents a double-edged sword. On one hand, it offers incredible possibilities for improving life, but on the other, it risks detaching us from the very essence of what it means to be human. Technologies like AI and genetic engineering could lead to a future where human beings are more machine than organic, potentially losing the spiritual and emotional depth that defines our species. Moreover, there’s a growing concern about who controls these technologies. If they are used to manipulate or control populations, we could see a loss of individual sovereignty and a move towards a more homogenized, less spiritually connected society.
Nick Sasaki: Rupert, your work on morphic resonance suggests that there’s more to human potential than what technology can offer. How does this concept relate to the current technological trends?
Rupert Sheldrake: Morphic resonance suggests that our minds and bodies are deeply connected to a larger field of consciousness, one that is not bound by the limitations of physical technology. This connection is what allows for intuition, creativity, and the deeper aspects of our spirituality. When we start to replace our natural abilities with artificial technologies, we risk severing these connections and reducing our potential to something that is mechanical and limited by the physical properties of the technology itself. Technology can be a tool, but it should not become a substitute for the natural, organic capabilities that define our human experience.
Nick Sasaki: Graham, how do you see the balance between ancient wisdom and modern technology? Can we integrate the two without losing our humanity?
Graham Hancock: That’s the crucial question, Nick. Ancient wisdom teaches us about the importance of harmony with nature, the cosmos, and our inner selves—lessons that seem increasingly relevant today. Modern technology has the potential to amplify these teachings, but only if used wisely. The danger lies in becoming overly reliant on technology, allowing it to replace rather than enhance our natural abilities. We must strive to find a balance, integrating the best of ancient knowledge with the capabilities of modern technology in a way that preserves our humanity and spiritual sovereignty. This balance is essential if we are to navigate the challenges of the future without losing touch with the deeper aspects of what makes us human.
Nick Sasaki: Gregg, to close this discussion, what do you believe is the most important consideration for ensuring that technology serves humanity rather than diminishes it?
Gregg Braden: The most important consideration, Nick, is intention. We must approach technology with a clear and conscious intention to use it as a tool to enhance our lives, not as a replacement for our natural abilities or a means of control. This requires a deep understanding of who we are as human beings—our strengths, our potentials, and our connection to something greater than ourselves, whether you call it the divine, the universe, or the collective consciousness. By keeping our focus on these core aspects of our humanity, we can ensure that technology remains a servant to our growth and evolution, rather than a master that diminishes our sovereignty and divinity.
Short Bios:
Gregg Braden: A bestselling author and scientist known for bridging ancient wisdom with modern science. Gregg is the author of books such as The Divine Matrix and The God Code, where he explores the intersection of spirituality and technology, challenging conventional views on human potential and history.
Graham Hancock: An investigative journalist and author specializing in ancient civilizations and alternative archaeology. Graham is renowned for his work on lost civilizations, particularly through his books Fingerprints of the Gods and Magicians of the Gods, which delve into the mysteries of ancient structures like the pyramids.
Robert Schoch: A geologist and professor famous for his groundbreaking research on the Sphinx, which challenges traditional timelines of ancient history. Robert is the author of Forgotten Civilization: The Role of Solar Outbursts in Our Past and Future, where he discusses geological evidence that suggests a much older origin for human civilization.
Linda Moulton Howe: An investigative journalist and documentary filmmaker, Linda has spent decades researching unexplained phenomena and ancient mysteries. She is the author of Glimpses of Other Realities and Mysterious Lights and Crop Circles, with a particular focus on Antarctica and the potential existence of lost civilizations beneath the ice.
Rupert Sheldrake: A biologist and author best known for his theory of morphic resonance, which explores the idea of collective memory and consciousness. Rupert has written several influential books, including The Science Delusion (also known as Science Set Free in the U.S.) and Morphic Resonance, challenging traditional scientific views and opening new possibilities for understanding human potenti
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