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Welcome, everyone! Today, we’re diving into an imaginary conversation that reaches beyond the ordinary—where human nature, empathy, and love are seen through the eyes of, yes, aliens. Imagine exploring what it means to be human, flaws and all, from a perspective that sees us as strange yet beautiful creatures navigating a complex world. We have the brilliant Matt Haig with us, the mind behind The Humans, a novel that dares to ask: what if an alien tried to understand us? And to make this conversation even more transformative, we’re joined by renowned voices from the world of New Age wisdom—Esther Hicks channeling Abraham, Bashar through Darryl Anka, Paul Selig with the Guides, and Lee Carroll channeling Kryon.
What does an alien learn about our love, empathy, and contradictions? How do our flaws make us unique? And why do we need both light and dark, joy and pain, to find true meaning in life? This conversation promises to reveal insights about humanity that will leave you questioning, laughing, and possibly looking at yourself in a completely new light. Trust me, you don’t want to miss what these minds and guides have to say. So, let’s uncover the mysteries of being human—flaws, paradoxes, and all.
The Significance of Love and Connection
Nick Sasaki (Moderator): “Welcome, everyone, to a conversation on one of the most fundamental aspects of human existence: The Significance of Love and Connection. I’m excited to have this discussion with an incredible group today. Joining us is Matt Haig, author of The Humans, who brings a unique lens on how love shapes our lives. We also have Esther Hicks, channeling Abraham, Paul Selig with the Guides, and Lee Carroll channeling Kryon, each offering profound insights from beyond our usual perspective. Let’s start with Matt.
Matt Haig: “Thanks, Nick. I’ve always felt that love and connection are the heartbeats of life. In The Humans, I wanted to show an outsider’s view on how transformative love can be—how it changes us, strengthens us, and even brings us back from the edge. It’s like love gives our lives gravity, anchoring us to one another and to a greater purpose. What’s your take on this, Abraham?”
Esther Hicks (channeling Abraham): “Yes, Matt, love is indeed the ultimate connector. In fact, love aligns every aspect of who we are with who we wish to be. Humans often see love as an emotional connection, but we say it’s a powerful energetic alignment, a vibrational match that brings you into harmony with your highest desires and experiences. When you connect through love, you’re truly tuned in, tapped in, turned on to the energy that creates worlds. This alignment, this connection, attracts all the abundance, joy, and clarity you seek.”
Nick Sasaki: “That’s fascinating, Abraham. So you’re saying love is both the force of connection and the catalyst for everything we want to experience. Paul, how do the Guides view love and connection?”
Paul Selig (channeling the Guides): “Thank you, Nick. We would say love is the fabric of existence, the very essence from which all things are born. In our view, connection through love is more than an experience; it is a reflection of your true nature. When you connect with another being in love, you are seeing the divine within them and recognizing it within yourself. This recognition of the divine is transformative—it lifts you from separation and places you within unity. You are not alone, never truly alone, when you are in the vibration of love. This is why, Matt, love resonates so deeply; it is the memory of oneness.”
Nick Sasaki: “That’s a powerful way to put it, Paul. Kryon, let’s hear from you. What role does love and connection play in humanity’s growth?”
Lee Carroll (channeling Kryon): “Greetings! Love and connection are the pillars of your human experience. We’ve often spoken of love as the ‘intelligent energy’ that transcends time, space, and even understanding. Humans think of love as a feeling, yet it’s so much more—it’s a universal frequency, a resonance. This is why you feel such profound healing, such peace, when you connect deeply with another. You’re tuning into something eternal. And here’s the beautiful part: in connecting through love, you don’t only grow individually; you elevate the entire collective. It’s a pathway, an invitation to step into the full potential of humanity.”
Matt Haig: “I love that idea of love as a frequency or resonance, Kryon. Writing The Humans helped me see how transformative love could be, even when it’s not fully understood. The alien character learns that love doesn’t always make logical sense, but it’s what ultimately saves him. It’s like love gives us a reason to endure the harder parts of life.”
Esther Hicks (channeling Abraham): “Exactly, Matt! And remember, you’re creators. Through love, you are not just enduring but creating, shaping a reality where joy, harmony, and purpose flow effortlessly. We say that love is the shortcut to everything you seek.”
Paul Selig (channeling the Guides): “Indeed. Love, as we’ve said, is the recognition of the divine. To love is to honor this truth within yourself and others. And so, Nick, each of you becomes a bridge, a vessel of this energy, creating a world that aligns closer to the vibrational truth of unity.”
Nick Sasaki: “Thank you, everyone. Love and connection are powerful forces, and hearing your perspectives gives us a broader sense of how they work within and beyond us. I think we can all take something from this today, whether it’s seeing love as an alignment, a reflection of divinity, or an eternal frequency. Thank you, Matt, Abraham, the Guides, and Kryon, for a truly enriching conversation.”
This conversation highlights each speaker’s unique perspective on love and connection, weaving together their insights into a cohesive exploration of how love shapes human life.
Embracing Human Imperfection
Nick Sasaki (Moderator): “Welcome back, everyone! Our topic now is Embracing Human Imperfection. This is something so central to the human experience, yet it can be challenging to fully accept. Matt, in The Humans, you explore imperfection from an alien’s perspective, revealing how our flaws actually shape us in profound ways. Let’s start with your thoughts on this.”
Matt Haig: “Thanks, Nick. Writing from an alien’s perspective allowed me to see human flaws with fresh eyes. The alien character in The Humans finds human imperfection strange and even repulsive at first. But over time, he realizes that our mistakes, our quirks, and even our suffering make us who we are. Imperfection is what gives us depth and resilience. It’s an essential part of being human.”
Nick Sasaki: “That’s a great point, Matt. Let’s bring in the channelers now. Lee, Kryon often talks about imperfection as a pathway to growth. Could you expand on that?”
Lee Carroll (channeling Kryon): “Indeed, Nick. Greetings! From our perspective, human imperfection is not something to be judged or corrected. Rather, it’s a tool for learning, a powerful catalyst. Through challenges and flaws, humans grow and expand in ways they wouldn’t otherwise. Imagine a perfectly smooth surface—nothing grows on it. But imperfections, like the cracks in a stone, allow seeds to take root. This is how growth occurs. So, Matt, those imperfections you write about? They’re not just incidental—they’re part of humanity’s evolution, a gateway to wisdom.”
Nick Sasaki: “Beautifully said, Kryon. Wendy, what do the Pleiadian Collective have to say about human flaws?”
Wendy Kennedy (channeling the Pleiadian Collective): “Thank you, Nick. We would add that imperfections create depth and uniqueness. From our perspective, Earth is a school of experience, where diversity of expression is celebrated. Human flaws are the paint strokes on the canvas, the unique marks that make each life distinct. So, Matt, when you portray characters struggling with their imperfections, you’re showing how beautifully human they are. Each flaw holds a lesson, a point of connection, and ultimately, compassion. In learning to accept these flaws in themselves, humans open up to accepting others as they are.”
Nick Sasaki: “I love that perspective—imperfections as unique marks of individuality. Paul, what insights do the Guides offer about embracing human flaws?”
Paul Selig (channeling the Guides): “We would say that human flaws are sacred. In your imperfections, you find the possibility of true humility and empathy. We teach that human flaws are not ‘mistakes’; they are opportunities for transformation. When you accept your flaws without judgment, you raise your own vibration and contribute to the collective healing. To embrace one’s imperfection is to align with a deeper truth. As you recognize the divinity within your so-called flaws, you create space for others to do the same. This acceptance is liberating; it’s a release from the need to be anything other than what you are.”
Matt Haig: “I love this idea of flaws as sacred. I think that’s what I was touching on in The Humans, even if I didn’t know it at the time. The alien character’s journey is about seeing that our struggles and our quirks make us more compassionate, more grounded. Without flaws, we’d lose something fundamental to who we are.”
Esther Hicks (channeling Abraham): “Yes, Matt, you’re absolutely right. Remember that you all came into this experience with a desire to learn and expand. Each perceived imperfection is an invitation to grow, an aspect of self that calls for alignment. When you embrace your flaws, you step into the flow of self-acceptance, which then allows you to create your life with joy. Imperfections are not errors—they’re your stepping stones to greater understanding.”
Nick Sasaki: “Thank you, everyone. This has been an enlightening conversation on embracing our imperfections. I think we’re all coming away with a new appreciation for the beauty and purpose in our flaws. Thank you, Matt, Kryon, the Pleiadian Collective, and the Guides. This topic of imperfections may indeed be what makes us truly human.”
This conversation captures how each speaker views imperfection as an integral part of the human experience, offering paths to growth, compassion, and self-acceptance.
The Pursuit of Meaning Beyond Logic
Nick Sasaki (Moderator): “Welcome back, everyone! Our next topic is The Pursuit of Meaning Beyond Logic. This is a theme that Matt explores beautifully in The Humans, showing how meaning isn’t always rooted in rationality. Matt, can you start us off with your thoughts?”
Matt Haig: “Absolutely, Nick. Writing from the perspective of an alien allowed me to explore the limitations of pure logic. My character initially sees humans as irrational beings, driven by emotions and strange rituals. But he begins to understand that meaning isn’t about rationality; it’s about connection, empathy, art, and everything that makes life worth living. In The Humans, I wanted to show that sometimes, what makes life meaningful doesn’t ‘make sense’—and that’s okay.”
Nick Sasaki: “That’s a great insight, Matt. Let’s hear from our channelers now. Bashar, you often talk about following intuition and non-linear thinking. How does this align with the pursuit of meaning?”
Bashar (channeled by Darryl Anka): “Thank you, Nick, and greetings to all! Yes, meaning is not a linear experience. You’re here in this life to explore a path that resonates with your highest excitement, even if it seems irrational by traditional standards. We say that intuition is the higher mind’s way of leading you to your true purpose. In following what feels expansive and exciting, you are guided toward what is most meaningful for you. This path transcends logic because it is driven by alignment with your soul’s intention. Meaning isn’t something you analyze; it’s something you feel and live.”
Nick Sasaki: “Beautiful, Bashar. So meaning is about resonance and following an inner guidance. Wendy, how does the Pleiadian Collective view the pursuit of meaning beyond rationality?”
Wendy Kennedy (channeling the Pleiadian Collective): “Thank you, Nick. From our perspective, meaning is rooted in the heart, not in the mind. When humans try to rationalize everything, they sometimes close off to the subtler, more profound experiences that bring depth to life. Meaning often emerges in moments of presence—when you’re immersed in art, music, or love. These experiences go beyond the logical mind and connect you to the greater whole. Matt, when you wrote The Humans, you were tapping into this very understanding. The alien learns that meaning isn’t something he can compute; it’s something he can only experience.”
Nick Sasaki: “That’s a powerful point, Wendy. Paul, let’s hear from the Guides. What role does meaning play in human experience, and why does it often seem illogical?”
Paul Selig (channeling the Guides): “We would say that meaning is the realization of your interconnectedness with all things. To seek meaning is to align with the deeper truth of unity, which cannot be fully comprehended through logic alone. Humans often search for meaning through achievements or knowledge, but true meaning is found in the awareness of one’s divine nature and purpose. In letting go of the need for things to ‘make sense’ logically, you open yourself to the greater wisdom of your soul. This is why moments that defy explanation—like love, awe, and wonder—are often the most meaningful.”
Matt Haig: “I think that’s exactly it. Writing The Humans was, in many ways, my own search for meaning. I realized that the most significant moments in my life weren’t the ones I could fully explain. They were experiences that left me feeling connected, alive, and part of something bigger. It’s like the search for meaning is ultimately about connecting with what we can’t explain.”
Bashar (channeled by Darryl Anka): “Yes, Matt! And remember, meaning is found in every moment that you allow yourself to feel aligned with your highest truth. When you trust in your excitement, you open yourself to the essence of life. Life itself is meaningful when you choose to live it fully, beyond the limits of rational thought.”
Wendy Kennedy (channeling the Pleiadian Collective): “Exactly. Humans are multifaceted beings, with both intellect and intuition. Embracing the non-logical parts of yourself—your emotions, your creativity, your sense of wonder—brings you into harmony with life’s inherent meaning.”
Nick Sasaki: “Thank you, everyone. This has been an illuminating conversation on how meaning isn’t something we analyze but something we feel and experience. Thank you, Matt, Bashar, the Pleiadian Collective, and the Guides, for bringing your insights to this discussion. I think we’re all leaving with a richer understanding of what it means to find purpose beyond logic.”
This conversation highlights how each speaker views the pursuit of meaning as a journey beyond the rational mind, emphasizing the importance of intuition, presence, and a connection to something greater than oneself.
The Value of Empathy and Understanding
Nick Sasaki (Moderator): “Welcome back to our ongoing conversation! Our next topic is The Value of Empathy and Understanding. This is a theme that Matt touches on deeply in The Humans, showing how empathy transforms his alien character’s view of humanity. Matt, why don’t you kick things off with your thoughts on this?”
Matt Haig: “Thanks, Nick. Yes, empathy is central to the story. The alien in The Humans starts off completely disconnected from human emotions. He doesn’t understand why humans act the way they do. But as he opens himself to empathy, he begins to see the beauty and strength in human vulnerability. Empathy bridges the gap between him and the people around him, and ultimately, it’s what allows him to appreciate life on Earth.”
Nick Sasaki: “That’s a beautiful perspective, Matt. Empathy as a bridge that connects us across differences. Let’s hear from the channelers now. Orin, what role does empathy play in human growth and understanding?”
Sanaya Roman (channeling Orin): “Thank you, Nick. Empathy is indeed a gateway to higher consciousness. We teach that empathy allows you to perceive others from a place of soul alignment. When you empathize, you are connecting from a level of being where all are one. This connection goes beyond intellect; it is an experience of unity. Empathy is not only an act of kindness but an act of true understanding, for through empathy, you see the divine within others as you see it within yourself. It is a vibration that elevates both the giver and the receiver.”
Nick Sasaki: “So empathy isn’t just about understanding someone else’s feelings; it’s recognizing a shared divinity. Kryon, what are your thoughts on how empathy affects humanity?”
Lee Carroll (channeling Kryon): “Greetings! Empathy is one of humanity’s greatest gifts, a unique feature of Earth’s experience. It is through empathy that humans achieve the highest levels of compassion and healing. When you feel empathy, you resonate at a frequency that transcends judgment, allowing you to connect with others as equals. This connection is a powerful healer, both individually and collectively. Matt, when you show empathy transforming your character, you’re reflecting a truth about human growth: empathy is the foundation of peace and unity. Empathy not only connects people; it lifts entire societies.”
Nick Sasaki: “That’s profound, Kryon. Empathy as a foundation for peace. Paul, can you tell us what the Guides believe about empathy’s role in spiritual evolution?”
Paul Selig (channeling the Guides): “Yes, Nick. We would say that empathy is an expression of the divine. To feel empathy is to acknowledge the interconnectedness of all beings. It is a recognition that you are not separate, that you are each part of a greater whole. When you extend empathy, you raise the frequency of love and compassion on the planet. We teach that empathy is not only an emotional response; it is a spiritual practice. As you embody empathy, you align yourself with truth, allowing the divine within to be expressed. Empathy transforms the self and the world, for in feeling for others, you come to know your own heart.”
Matt Haig: “That resonates with me so much. Writing The Humans taught me a lot about empathy. When we open ourselves to someone else’s experience, we’re reminded that we’re all struggling, all trying to make sense of life. Empathy shows us that we’re not alone, that there’s comfort in shared vulnerability.”
Sanaya Roman (channeling Orin): “Yes, Matt, and this shared vulnerability is a profound source of strength. When you empathize, you not only see another’s pain but uplift them and yourself to a higher vibration. Empathy is an act of healing, of embracing the human journey with all its joys and sorrows.”
Lee Carroll (channeling Kryon): “And as you practice empathy, you unlock the ability to create greater harmony in your relationships and communities. It’s a path that unites heart and mind, transcending the limitations of words. Empathy has the potential to transform Earth, one compassionate action at a time.”
Nick Sasaki: “Thank you, everyone. This has been a moving discussion on empathy and understanding. It’s clear that empathy isn’t just an emotional response; it’s a spiritual act, a vibration that bridges the gaps between us and connects us on the deepest level. Thank you, Matt, Orin, Kryon, and the Guides, for your insights. I think we’re all leaving this conversation with a greater appreciation for the power of empathy in creating a more connected world.”
This conversation highlights how each speaker sees empathy as more than just an emotional reaction, presenting it as a powerful, transformative force that uplifts individuals and unites humanity in shared experience and compassion.
The Paradox of Human Existence
Nick Sasaki (Moderator): “Welcome back, everyone! Our final topic today is The Paradox of Human Existence. This is a theme that runs throughout The Humans, showing how humans navigate joy and suffering, logic and emotion, the mundane and the profound. Matt, what inspired you to explore these paradoxes in your book?”
Matt Haig: “Thanks, Nick. I think it’s something I was grappling with personally. Humans are complex beings—we’re capable of love and hate, joy and despair, sometimes all at once. Writing from an alien’s perspective allowed me to explore how confusing and beautiful that complexity is. The Humans is ultimately about accepting these contradictions, realizing that life’s richness comes from its unpredictability and mystery.”
Nick Sasaki: “That’s a great insight, Matt. Now, let’s turn to our channelers. Bashar, you often talk about duality and balance. What do you make of these paradoxes in human existence?”
Bashar (channeled by Darryl Anka): “Thank you, Nick. Greetings! Paradoxes are fundamental to the Earth experience; they are essential for growth. Humans experience both light and dark, happiness and pain, because this contrast allows you to understand yourself more fully. We teach that embracing both sides of any experience brings balance. When you accept paradox, you are no longer in resistance. You are in alignment with what is, rather than what should be. Matt, your character’s journey is a perfect example. By embracing life’s dualities, he learns that contrast is what makes life dynamic and fulfilling.”
Nick Sasaki: “Thank you, Bashar. So, paradoxes are an invitation to accept the wholeness of life. Barbara, what do the Pleiadians have to say about the role of paradox in human experience?”
Barbara Marciniak (channeling the Pleiadians): “Yes, Nick, we would add that paradoxes are integral to Earth’s learning journey. The human experience is designed with these contrasts to push you toward growth. Light and dark, pleasure and pain—they coexist to teach you the full spectrum of life. Through experiencing one, you gain insight into the other. The alien character in The Humans discovers this firsthand: he sees that the struggles, the mysteries, and the challenges make humanity resilient and wise. The richness of life lies in these contrasts, for without them, there would be no depth.”
Nick Sasaki: “I love that idea, Barbara. Paul, what insights do the Guides offer on why paradox is so intrinsic to being human?”
Paul Selig (channeling the Guides): “We would say that paradox is not a contradiction but a revelation of divine balance. You see, as humans, you come to understand yourselves through the interplay of opposites. In your darkest moments, you find the light; in times of peace, you appreciate the journey that brought you there. This duality is not a flaw but a feature of existence on Earth. Matt, in writing The Humans, you illuminated the truth that embracing paradox allows for the greatest peace, for when you accept both sides, you see the unity beneath them.”
Matt Haig: “That resonates a lot. Writing the book was a way for me to come to terms with some of these paradoxes myself. I realized that life doesn’t always have to make sense; in fact, it’s often the things that don’t make sense that teach us the most. The alien character learns that life’s value isn’t in its predictability but in its complexity and depth.”
Bashar (channeled by Darryl Anka): “Exactly, Matt! When you embrace the paradoxes, you’re embracing the full scope of your being. You are multifaceted, and each contrast shows you more of who you are. Life’s paradoxes invite you to explore beyond comfort zones and accept the unknown as part of the journey.”
Barbara Marciniak (channeling the Pleiadians): “And in doing so, you become more attuned to your own power and potential. Humanity’s journey is one of courage—the courage to face contradictions without trying to resolve them into simplicity. It’s this dance with paradox that makes Earth such a unique place for souls to grow.”
Paul Selig (channeling the Guides): “Yes, and we would add that the divine is present in all things, even those that appear contradictory. When you embrace paradox, you align yourself with the higher wisdom that holds all things in balance. This alignment is peace.”
Nick Sasaki: “Thank you, everyone. This has been an inspiring conversation about the beauty of paradox in human life. It’s clear that accepting life’s contradictions brings depth, wisdom, and a greater understanding of ourselves. Thank you, Matt, Bashar, the Pleiadians, and the Guides, for sharing your perspectives. Embracing paradox may just be one of the greatest steps we can take toward a more fulfilling life.”
This conversation brings out the richness of human existence, presenting paradox as a core element of growth, acceptance, and self-discovery, each perspective adding depth to the discussion of life’s dualities.
Short Bios:
Matt Haig is an acclaimed British author known for his insightful explorations of mental health, empathy, and the human condition. His novel The Humans uses an alien perspective to offer profound reflections on love, vulnerability, and the complexities of being human. Haig’s work is celebrated for its relatable and thought-provoking approach, often blending humor with deeper existential themes.
Esther Hicks channels Abraham, a group of spiritual entities who share teachings on the Law of Attraction, alignment, and the power of positive thinking. Through Esther, Abraham delivers messages emphasizing self-empowerment, love, and the importance of vibrational alignment in achieving a fulfilling life. Esther’s work with Abraham has inspired countless readers to cultivate joy and abundance.
Bashar, channeled by Darryl Anka, is an extraterrestrial entity from the Essassani civilization who shares wisdom on topics like self-realization, consciousness, and living in alignment with one’s highest excitement. Bashar’s teachings encourage followers to embrace intuition and explore reality beyond traditional logic, offering insights on the interconnectedness of life and the power of following one’s passion.
Paul Selig is a renowned psychic and spiritual channel who connects with the Guides, a group of enlightened beings offering guidance on spiritual evolution, self-acceptance, and living in alignment with divine truth. Through Paul, the Guides share messages about embracing one’s true nature, letting go of fear, and recognizing the divinity in all aspects of life. Selig’s teachings emphasize the transformative power of love and authenticity.
Lee Carroll channels Kryon, an entity who shares wisdom on spiritual growth, human potential, and the evolution of consciousness. Kryon’s teachings are known for their compassionate perspective on human challenges, encouraging individuals to embrace love, empathy, and self-discovery. Through Lee, Kryon offers profound insights into the nature of reality, the importance of compassion, and humanity’s journey toward enlightenment.
Sanaya Roman channels Orin, a spiritual being focused on personal growth, inner peace, and the expansion of consciousness. Orin’s teachings, shared through Sanaya, emphasize the power of love, empathy, and self-awareness, encouraging followers to achieve higher states of joy and connection. Orin’s messages are centered on aligning with one’s highest potential and deepening relationships with self and others.
Wendy Kennedy channels the Pleiadian Collective, a group of interdimensional beings who share messages about Earth’s evolution, empathy, and the importance of heart-centered living. Wendy’s work with the Pleiadians encourages listeners to embrace both intuition and compassion, fostering unity and personal growth. Their teachings explore ways to transcend logic and engage with life’s mysteries from a place of understanding.
Barbara Marciniak channels the Pleiadians, extraterrestrial entities who offer guidance on spiritual awakening, embracing paradox, and evolving consciousness. Barbara’s work with the Pleiadians explores humanity’s challenges, the duality of existence, and the pursuit of deeper meaning. Their teachings inspire individuals to confront life’s complexities, nurturing a journey toward greater understanding and spiritual resilience.
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