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Eddie Jaku:
My dear friends,
I have lived through the darkest of times and witnessed both the worst and the best of humanity. I have lost everything, yet I have found the greatest treasure of all—happiness. Not because life was easy, but because I made a choice. I chose kindness over hatred, gratitude over despair, and love over bitterness.
It is with this spirit that I welcome you to this extraordinary conversation—a gathering of minds and hearts, each with their own lessons on resilience, gratitude, kindness, forgiveness, wisdom, legacy, and happiness.
I have the great honor of sitting with some of the most brilliant and compassionate souls to ever walk this earth. My dear friend Viktor Frankl, who taught us that meaning is the key to survival. Nelson Mandela, who showed that forgiveness is the ultimate strength. Jane Goodall, who reminds us that all life is connected. Dalai Lama, who shares the wisdom of inner peace. Albert Einstein, who believed that curiosity and kindness bring true joy. And so many more—each bringing their own light to guide us.
Together, we will explore the most important questions of life: How do we endure suffering and emerge stronger? How do we live with gratitude and love? How do we forgive, even when it feels impossible? What is true wisdom? And most importantly—how do we live a happy and meaningful life?
These are not just imaginary conversations. These are lessons that have been shaped by lifetimes of experience. And my greatest wish is that you, dear reader, find something here that touches your heart, lifts your spirit, and helps you choose happiness—every single day.
Because, as I always say, life is a gift, and happiness is the greatest gift of all.
So come, my friends. Let us begin.

Resilience & Survival

Participants:
- Eddie Jaku (Moderator) – Holocaust survivor, author of The Happiest Man on Earth.
- Viktor Frankl – Holocaust survivor, psychologist, and author of Man’s Search for Meaning.
- Louis Zamperini – WWII veteran, Olympic athlete, and prisoner of war survivor.
- Malala Yousafzai – Education activist, survived an assassination attempt by the Taliban.
Eddie Jaku (Moderator):
"Welcome, my friends. We have all endured suffering in different ways, yet here we are, not just as survivors but as people who strive to bring light into the world. Today, I want us to explore what resilience truly means and how we find the strength to continue when life tests us to the extreme.
Let me start with you, Viktor. You experienced the horrors of Auschwitz, yet you came out with the belief that meaning is the key to survival. Can you tell us more about that?"
Viktor Frankl:
"Thank you, Eddie. In the concentration camps, I observed that those who had a deep sense of purpose—whether it was reuniting with family, fulfilling a lifelong dream, or even just proving that suffering could not break their spirit—were more likely to survive.
When everything was stripped away from us, the one thing we still had was our ability to choose our response. That is why I say: ‘Everything can be taken from a man but one thing—the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances.’ Resilience, then, is rooted in finding meaning, even in the darkest times."
Eddie Jaku:
"I love that, Viktor—choosing our response. That was something I had to learn, too. When I lost my family in the Holocaust, I could have been consumed by hatred, but I refused. I chose to be ‘The Happiest Man on Earth’ instead.
Louis, you were a prisoner of war, and you endured incredible torture. What kept you going?"
Louis Zamperini:
"It was the will to live, Eddie. But more than that—it was a refusal to let my captors break me. When I was stranded on a raft in the middle of the Pacific for 47 days with no food or water, I thought about my mother’s cooking. I thought about running again. I thought about the life waiting for me if I survived.
When I was later tortured in a Japanese POW camp, I made a promise to myself: They could control my body, but they would never control my spirit. I focused on mental resilience—playing Olympic races in my head, imagining my home, even finding humor in small moments. That’s what helped me endure."
Eddie Jaku:
"That’s incredible, Louis. It shows that survival isn’t just about the body—it’s about the mind.
Malala, your story is different from ours, but you too faced death and survived. How did you find resilience at such a young age?"
Malala Yousafzai:
"I was only 15 when the Taliban shot me in the head for wanting an education. They thought they could silence me. But when I woke up in the hospital, I realized something: They had taken their best shot, and I was still here.
That moment gave me strength. I decided that my survival had to mean something. I couldn’t be afraid anymore. Fear is what oppressors use to control people, but resilience comes from refusing to let fear dictate your life.
I turned my pain into purpose. Instead of retreating, I used my voice louder than ever. That is how resilience works—it is not just about surviving; it is about transforming hardship into a force for good."
Eddie Jaku:
"I love what you said, Malala—resilience is not just surviving, it’s transforming hardship into something greater.
Each of you had different reasons to keep going. Viktor, you found meaning. Louis, you refused to let anyone control your spirit. Malala, you turned your pain into a purpose.
Now, let me ask you all: If you could give one piece of advice to someone struggling right now—someone who feels they cannot go on—what would it be?"
Viktor Frankl:
"I would say: Do not ask what life can give you—ask what you can give to life. If you can find even the smallest purpose, even a reason to get up tomorrow, that is enough to start building resilience."
Louis Zamperini:
"I’d say: Never let your circumstances define you. No matter what’s happening, you are stronger than you know. Hold on to hope—it is more powerful than you think."
Malala Yousafzai:
"To anyone struggling, I say: You are never too small to make a difference, and your story is not over yet. Even if today is hard, tomorrow is a new chance to rise again."
Eddie Jaku (Closing):
"Such beautiful words from all of you. My own advice is this: Life is precious. Every day is a gift. Even in hardship, choose to wake up with gratitude and kindness. That choice is what makes us truly resilient.
Thank you, my friends, for this wonderful discussion. May we all continue to inspire hope and resilience in the world."
Gratitude & Perspective

Moderator: Eddie Jaku
Participants: Viktor Frankl, Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou
Eddie Jaku (Moderator):
"My dear friends, welcome again. In our last conversation, we spoke about resilience—the ability to endure hardships and find strength within. Today, we explore something that has helped me personally through all my struggles: Gratitude and Perspective.
Many people believe happiness comes from wealth, success, or comfort. But those of us here know that true happiness often comes from a much simpler place—gratitude for what we already have.
Viktor, my friend, you survived one of the darkest places in human history, yet you still found reasons to be grateful. How is that possible?"
Viktor Frankl:
"Eddie, gratitude is not about what we have—it is about how we perceive what we have. In Auschwitz, many of us had nothing. We were starving, freezing, and suffering. And yet, I remember moments of gratitude even there—when a fellow prisoner shared a piece of bread, when a sunset painted the sky above the camp.
I always say, ‘When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.’ In suffering, I found gratitude for even the smallest gifts—because gratitude changes the way we experience life, no matter the circumstances."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is beautiful, Viktor. The ability to find light in the darkness is a powerful thing.
Dalai Lama, you have spent most of your life in exile, separated from your homeland. Yet, you are always smiling. What role does gratitude play in your happiness?"
Dalai Lama:
"Eddie, thank you for your kind words. Yes, I lost my home, my country, my people—but I have never lost my smile, because I focus on what I still have.
Gratitude is the key to peace. Many people chase happiness by wanting more, but true happiness comes from appreciating what we already have. Even something as simple as breath, as the warmth of the sun—these are gifts! When we stop chasing, and start appreciating, we find joy.
I once met a man who had lost everything in war. He asked me, ‘How can I ever be happy again?’ I told him: ‘Start by being grateful that you are still alive. Then, build from there.’ Gratitude is the seed of all happiness."
Eddie Jaku:
"Wise words, my friend. I have always said, every day is a gift—and when we wake up, we must remember how lucky we are.
Maya, you also experienced deep struggles—poverty, racism, abuse—and yet you became a symbol of grace and resilience. How did gratitude shape your journey?"
Maya Angelou:
"Oh, Eddie, I love what you said—every day is a gift. That is exactly how I have lived my life.
I was raised in a world that told me I was less than, that I was undeserving. But my grandmother taught me something powerful: You may encounter many defeats, but you must not be defeated. And one of the ways we fight defeat is by choosing gratitude.
When I was young and struggling, I still had my voice. I had poetry. I had love. And that was enough to build a foundation. Even in pain, there is always something to be thankful for—because gratitude is a form of resistance. It says, ‘I will not let the world make me bitter.’"
Eddie Jaku:
"What a beautiful thought, Maya—gratitude is resistance. It is a way of saying that we will not be defeated by circumstances.
Many people today struggle with anxiety, depression, and stress. They have food, they have shelter, but they still feel unhappy. What advice would you give to someone who feels like they have nothing to be grateful for?"
Viktor Frankl:
"I would say: Begin small. If you cannot find gratitude for life, find gratitude for a moment—one breath, one smile, one kindness. Happiness is not found in grand things, but in simple moments.
Even in the worst conditions, I found gratitude in the friendships that formed, in the small kindnesses between prisoners. Gratitude is like a muscle—the more you use it, the stronger it becomes."
Dalai Lama:
"I agree. Gratitude must be practiced every day, like meditation. When you wake up, instead of thinking about what is missing, think about what is present.
Be thankful for your body, your senses, the people around you. Even if all you have is one friend, one meal, one moment of peace—that is enough. Because gratitude grows."
Maya Angelou:
"Gratitude is about perspective. If you wait for life to be perfect before you feel grateful, you will wait forever. But if you find gratitude in imperfection, you will always be happy.
Every night, before you sleep, ask yourself: What was beautiful about today? Even if it was just the color of the sky, the sound of laughter, or the taste of warm tea. Collect these small joys, and soon, you will have a treasure chest of gratitude."
Eddie Jaku (Closing):
"My dear friends, today we have shared something truly special.
Viktor reminded us that gratitude is a choice, even in suffering.
Dalai Lama showed us that gratitude is the foundation of happiness.
Maya taught us that gratitude is a form of resistance against despair.
I will leave you all with this thought:
Each morning, when you open your eyes, say to yourself—Today, I am the luckiest person on Earth, because I am alive, and I have one more chance to be kind, to love, and to be grateful.
Thank you, my friends. Let us continue spreading happiness and gratitude in the world."
Kindness & Relationships

Moderator: Eddie Jaku
Participants: Viktor Frankl, Mother Teresa, Fred Rogers
Eddie Jaku (Moderator):
"My dear friends, today we speak about something that I believe is at the core of happiness: Kindness and Relationships.
In the concentration camps, kindness saved my life. It was not grand gestures, but small moments—a fellow prisoner sharing a crust of bread, a quiet word of encouragement, a touch on the shoulder. These small acts of kindness had the power to keep us alive.
But kindness is not only for times of suffering—it is the foundation of a joyful life. That is why I want us to explore today: Why does kindness matter? How do relationships shape our happiness?
Viktor, my friend, you have said that love is the highest goal a person can aspire to. Can you share why relationships and kindness were so important, even in the darkest times?"
Viktor Frankl:
"Eddie, I completely agree—kindness is life-saving.
In the camps, I saw that those who had someone to live for—whether it was a family member, a friend, or even the hope of seeing a loved one again—had greater strength to endure suffering.
When all else was taken away, I realized that the greatest human experience is love. Love does not require physical presence; it lives in the mind and heart. I survived because I held onto the image of my wife, even though I did not know if she was still alive.
Kindness, in its simplest form, is love in action. A smile, a helping hand, a kind word—these things are small, but they can sustain a person through unimaginable hardship. And in daily life, they are what make life worth living."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is beautiful, Viktor. Love and kindness are what give life meaning.
Mother Teresa, you devoted your entire life to kindness, serving the poorest and the sickest people in the world. What did kindness mean to you?"
Mother Teresa:
"Eddie, kindness is not just an act; it is a way of life.
People think you have to do great things to change the world, but I always said: Not all of us can do great things, but we can do small things with great love.
I worked with the dying, the abandoned, and the forgotten. And do you know what they wanted most? Not money, not medicine—they wanted to be seen, to be loved, to be treated as human beings.
Kindness is recognizing the worth of every person. It is holding someone’s hand when they are in pain. It is looking into someone’s eyes and truly seeing them. If we practiced more kindness, we would heal not just individuals, but the whole world."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is so powerful. Sometimes, kindness is as simple as making someone feel that they matter.
Fred, you spent your life teaching children about kindness, and you impacted millions. Why was kindness your mission?"
Fred Rogers (Mister Rogers):
"Thank you, Eddie. Yes, kindness was at the heart of everything I did because I believed that what children learn about kindness early in life shapes the world they will create as adults.
Many people believe that kindness is a weakness. But I tell you—kindness is one of the greatest strengths a person can have. It takes courage to be kind in a world that often values power over compassion.
I always told children: You are special just as you are. That message is important, because when people feel valued, they are more likely to spread kindness to others.
Kindness is not about big gestures—it is about daily choices. It is about how we treat the people around us. It is about listening, about being present. That is why relationships are so important—they are the space where kindness grows."
Eddie Jaku:
"Fred, I love that. Kindness is a strength, not a weakness.
I often say that the reason I am happy today is because I choose kindness every day. I smile at strangers, I help others when I can, I treat everyone with respect. And in return, I am surrounded by love.
But many people today feel lonely. Despite all our technology, our social media, people feel disconnected. How can kindness help us build deeper relationships?"
Viktor Frankl:
"I believe loneliness comes from a loss of meaning in relationships. We must see relationships not as something we take from, but something we give to.
When we focus on what we can contribute rather than what we can receive, relationships grow stronger. Kindness is the key to this shift. A relationship built on kindness and service lasts forever."
Mother Teresa:
"Viktor, that is true. People do not need riches; they need love.
If you feel lonely, be the one to reach out. Go visit someone who is sick. Call a friend who needs encouragement. Help a neighbor. When we give kindness, we receive it in return."
Fred Rogers:
"And remember—relationships take time.
Many people expect instant connections, but real relationships are built through consistent kindness. If you want deep friendships, be the friend who shows up, who listens, who cares.
A simple act of kindness—a note, a phone call, a smile—can open a door to connection."
Eddie Jaku (Closing):
"My friends, today we have spoken of something that can change the world.
- Viktor reminded us that love is the highest human experience.
- Mother Teresa showed us that kindness is about recognizing the worth of every person.
- Fred taught us that kindness is the foundation of strong relationships.
And I leave you with this thought: Kindness costs nothing, but it is the richest gift you can give. It will bring happiness to others, and it will bring happiness to you.
So today, choose kindness. Say a kind word. Give a helping hand. And most importantly—let the people around you know they are loved.
Thank you, my dear friends. Let’s continue to make the world a better place, one act of kindness at a time."
Forgiveness & Letting Go

Moderator: Eddie Jaku
Participants: Viktor Frankl, Nelson Mandela, Corrie ten Boom
Eddie Jaku (Moderator):
"My dear friends, today we discuss something that is difficult for many—forgiveness and letting go.
I know what it means to lose everything. I know what it means to feel hatred, to want revenge. But I also know that carrying hatred is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to suffer.
For many years, I was angry at those who took my family, who destroyed my home. But one day, I realized—if I hold onto hate, I am still a prisoner. So I chose forgiveness, not for them, but for me.
Viktor, you saw the worst of humanity in the concentration camps, yet you taught that we can choose our response. How does forgiveness fit into that?"
Viktor Frankl:
"Eddie, I agree completely. Forgiveness is not about the other person—it is about freeing ourselves from suffering.
When I was in Auschwitz, I saw that those who let hatred consume them became prisoners in their own minds. But those who focused on love, on hope, on a future beyond the camp, kept their spirit alive.
I always say: ‘Everything can be taken from a man but one thing—the last of human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances.’ We cannot change what has been done to us, but we can change how we carry it forward.
Forgiveness does not mean forgetting. It means we refuse to let the past destroy our future."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is so powerful, Viktor. We cannot change the past, but we can change how we carry it.
Nelson, you were imprisoned for 27 years for fighting for justice. Many would have come out bitter and vengeful. But instead, you chose forgiveness. How?"
Nelson Mandela:
"Eddie, I had every reason to be angry. I was locked away, separated from my family, treated as less than human. But when I finally walked free, I had to ask myself: Do I want to remain a prisoner of my past?
If I had carried my hatred with me, I would have remained in a different kind of prison—one of anger, one of revenge.
So I chose to forgive. Not because they deserved it, but because I deserved peace.
Forgiveness is not a sign of weakness—it is the greatest act of strength. When we forgive, we take control of our lives again. We say, ‘You will not have power over me any longer.’"
Eddie Jaku:
"What an incredible lesson—forgiveness is an act of strength, not weakness.
Corrie, your story of forgiveness is one that always moves me. You were imprisoned in a concentration camp, and your family was taken from you. Yet, you forgave the very people responsible. How did you do it?"
Corrie ten Boom:
"Eddie, I did not find forgiveness easy. After the war, I was speaking in a church when a man came up to me. I recognized him instantly—he was one of the guards from the camp where my sister had died.
He said, ‘I have become a Christian, and I ask for your forgiveness.’ And then he extended his hand to me.
I stood there, frozen. Every part of me wanted to refuse. But then I remembered—forgiveness is not a feeling, it is a decision.
So I prayed for strength, and I took his hand. And when I did, I felt something I cannot explain—a wave of peace that melted away my hatred.
I realized that forgiveness is not about what others deserve—it is about choosing love over bitterness. And that is a choice we must make every day."
Eddie Jaku:
"Corrie, that is an extraordinary example. Forgiveness is not just about others—it is about choosing peace for ourselves.
Many people struggle with forgiving—whether it is a family member, a friend, or even themselves. What would you say to someone who says, ‘I just can’t forgive’?"
Viktor Frankl:
"I would tell them: Forgiveness is a process, not an instant decision. If you cannot forgive today, then start by choosing not to let hate control you. Start by focusing on what you can build, rather than what was destroyed.
Forgiveness does not erase the past, but it removes the power the past has over you."
Nelson Mandela:
"I would say: Do not let your enemies live rent-free in your mind. If you are holding onto anger, they are still controlling you. Letting go is not about them—it is about reclaiming your freedom."
Corrie ten Boom:
"And I would say: If you cannot forgive with your heart, start with your hands.
What I mean is, begin with an act of kindness, even if you do not feel it yet. Write a letter, say a kind word, pray for the person who hurt you. Often, the action leads to the feeling."
Eddie Jaku (Closing):
"My dear friends, today we have learned something life-changing.
- Viktor reminded us that we cannot control what happens, but we can control how we respond.
- Nelson showed us that forgiveness is not weakness—it is the ultimate strength.
- Corrie taught us that forgiveness is a choice we make, not for others, but for ourselves.
And I will leave you with this: Do not waste your precious life carrying hatred. Choose peace. Choose love. Choose forgiveness.
Thank you, my friends. May we all walk forward with lighter hearts."
Wisdom for Life

Moderator: Eddie Jaku
Participants: Viktor Frankl, Marcus Aurelius, Wayne Dyer
Eddie Jaku (Moderator):
"My dear friends, today we come together to discuss wisdom for life—the lessons we have learned through suffering, resilience, and joy.
Each of us has faced challenges, but we have also discovered deep truths about what makes life meaningful. We are here not just to survive, but to live well. So let us share the wisdom that can guide others toward a happier, more fulfilling life.
Viktor, you have taught that meaning is the key to survival. But what is the key to truly living?"
Viktor Frankl:
"Eddie, that is a profound question. To me, the key to truly living is to take responsibility for our own lives.
People often ask, ‘What is the meaning of life?’ But I tell them: Life is asking you that question! We do not find meaning by searching for it—we create meaning by how we live.
Happiness is not the goal; meaning is. When we find a purpose greater than ourselves—whether through love, work, or service—we experience a deep, lasting fulfillment that no hardship can take away."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is so true, Viktor. Meaning gives us direction, while happiness alone can be fleeting.
Marcus, as a Stoic philosopher, you spent your life reflecting on what it means to live wisely. What is the most important wisdom you learned?"
Marcus Aurelius:
"Eddie, I have learned that we suffer more in our minds than in reality.
People spend their lives worrying about things they cannot control—what others think, what may happen in the future, what has already passed. But true wisdom is realizing that the only thing we ever truly own is our mind and our actions.
That is why I wrote to myself every day, reminding myself: ‘You have power over your mind—not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.’
If you wish to live wisely, focus only on what is within your control. Everything else is wasted energy."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is powerful, Marcus. We suffer more from our thoughts than from reality itself.
Wayne, in your work, you often spoke about how our thoughts shape our lives. What wisdom would you share with those seeking happiness?"
Wayne Dyer:
"Eddie, I believe the greatest wisdom is this: You become what you think about all day long.
Most people do not realize that their thoughts are shaping their reality. If you constantly tell yourself, ‘I am unlucky, I am a failure, I am not good enough,’ then that is the world you will experience.
But if you shift your mind and say, ‘I am capable, I am grateful, I am at peace,’ your world will reflect that.
The universe responds to energy. If you want joy, you must think joyfully. If you want love, you must be loving. If you want peace, you must cultivate peace within yourself first."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is so important, Wayne—our thoughts create our world.
But in today’s world, people are overwhelmed—by work, by responsibilities, by endless distractions. How do we live wisely when life feels so chaotic?"
Viktor Frankl:
"Even in chaos, we must remember we always have a choice.
No matter what is happening around you, you can always ask: ‘What is the right thing for me to do in this moment?’ When you live with purpose, distractions lose their power over you."
Marcus Aurelius:
"I would say: Slow down and return to the present.
Most of our suffering comes from dwelling on the past or fearing the future. But wisdom lives in the now.
I remind myself every morning: ‘Live each day as if it were your last, for one day, you will be right.’ If you live each day fully, you will not fear the future."
Wayne Dyer:
"And I would add: Simplify your life.
Most of what we chase—wealth, status, possessions—does not bring true happiness. What brings joy is being present, serving others, and aligning with what you love.
Wisdom is knowing when to say no to distractions and yes to what truly matters."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is beautiful, my friends. Live with purpose, return to the present, simplify your life.
Now, I have one final question: If you could give only one piece of wisdom to someone who is searching for a better life, what would it be?"
Viktor Frankl:
"I would say: Do not ask what life can give you—ask what you can give to life. Meaning is not found in receiving, but in serving."
Marcus Aurelius:
"I would say: You cannot control the world, but you can always control yourself. Learn to master your thoughts, and you will master your life."
Wayne Dyer:
"I would say: Change your thoughts, and you will change your reality. What you focus on grows—choose your thoughts wisely."
Eddie Jaku (Closing):
"My friends, today we have shared great wisdom.
- Viktor reminded us that life is asking us to create meaning.
- Marcus taught us that wisdom comes from controlling our own minds.
- Wayne showed us that our thoughts shape our reality.
And I will leave you with this: The happiest people are not the richest, the smartest, or the most successful. The happiest people are those who wake up each day with gratitude, who choose kindness, who live with purpose, and who fill their hearts with love.
So go out into the world and live wisely. And most of all—be happy.
Thank you, my dear friends. Let us continue to share joy and wisdom with all we meet."
Legacy & Teaching Others

Moderator: Eddie Jaku
Participants: Viktor Frankl, Jane Goodall, Desmond Tutu
Eddie Jaku (Moderator):
"My dear friends, today we discuss something close to my heart—legacy and teaching others.
I always say, 'Life is a gift, and happiness is something we share.' I survived the darkest of times, but I did not just survive for myself. I survived so I could share my story, so others could learn, and so the world could become a better place.
Each of you has left an incredible legacy—not just through your words, but through your actions. So I ask you, what does it mean to leave a true legacy?
Viktor, my dear friend, you have helped millions find meaning in their lives. What does legacy mean to you?"
Viktor Frankl:
"Eddie, to me, legacy is not about what we leave behind, but about the lives we touch while we are here.
People think legacy is about wealth, statues, or fame—but these things fade. What does not fade is the impact we have on other human beings.
When I wrote Man’s Search for Meaning, I did not do it to become famous. I did it because I had seen suffering, and I wanted others to know that even in the worst conditions, they could find purpose. That is what matters most—not what we own, but how we help others find light in the darkness."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is so true, Viktor. A true legacy is measured in how we help others live better lives.
Jane, you have dedicated your life to studying and protecting animals, but more importantly, you have inspired generations to care for our planet. What do you believe is the greatest lesson we should teach future generations?"
Jane Goodall:
"Eddie, I believe the greatest lesson is this: We are all connected—to each other, to animals, to the Earth itself.
When I first began studying chimpanzees, I saw something extraordinary. They were not just ‘animals’; they had emotions, relationships, even kindness. And I realized, humans are not separate from nature—we are part of it.
If I could teach one thing, it would be this: Every action we take affects the world around us. Whether we show kindness to an animal, respect for the environment, or compassion to another human being—these small acts create ripples that shape the future.
Our legacy is not just what we leave behind, but how we teach others to carry forward kindness, responsibility, and care for the world."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is beautiful, Jane—our actions today shape the future.
Desmond, you have spent your life fighting for peace, justice, and reconciliation. What do you believe is the most important lesson we should pass on to the next generation?"
Desmond Tutu:
"Eddie, if I could leave only one lesson, it would be this: Every human being has worth, and when we recognize that, we create a better world.
I have seen the power of division, of hatred, of injustice. But I have also seen the power of unity, of forgiveness, of love. And I have learned that a single voice, a single act of courage, can change history.
If we teach the next generation anything, let it be this: Never underestimate the power of goodness. Stand up for what is right. Treat every person with dignity. And when given the choice between hatred and love—always, always choose love."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is a message the world needs now more than ever—always choose love.
Many people think they are too small to make a difference. They say, ‘I am just one person—what can I do?’ What would you say to them?"
Viktor Frankl:
"I would say: Even the smallest act of kindness can change someone’s life.
A smile to a stranger, a word of encouragement, a helping hand—these things may seem small, but they can mean everything to someone who is struggling.
Never think you are too small. You never know how your words or actions might inspire someone else."
Jane Goodall:
"I would say: Change begins with awareness.
If you see something wrong, speak up. If you want a better world, start with your own actions.
No one is too small to make a difference. If you don’t believe me, try sleeping in a room with a single mosquito!" (laughs)
Desmond Tutu:
"And I would say: Do not wait for someone else to lead—be the leader in your own way.
You do not have to be famous, powerful, or wealthy to create change. You simply have to care enough to act.
History is not made by great leaders alone—it is made by everyday people who choose to stand up for what is right, who choose kindness over cruelty, and who choose love over hate."
Eddie Jaku (Closing):
"My dear friends, today we have spoken about legacy not as something we leave behind, but as something we build every day through our actions.
- Viktor reminded us that legacy is found in the lives we touch, not in what we own.
- Jane showed us that we are all connected, and our actions shape the future.
- Desmond taught us that every human being has the power to create change.
And I will leave you with this thought: You do not have to wait until the end of your life to leave a legacy. Your legacy begins today, in the way you treat others, in the kindness you show, and in the love you share.
So go out into the world, teach by example, and make the world a better place—not tomorrow, but today.
Thank you, my friends. May we all live with purpose and leave behind a world filled with love and kindness."
The Meaning of Happiness

Moderator: Eddie Jaku
Participants: Viktor Frankl, Albert Einstein, Socrates
Eddie Jaku (Moderator):
"My dear friends, today we discuss the most important topic of all—happiness.
For much of my life, I suffered greatly. I lost my family, my home, and everything I had. But despite all of it, I made a decision: I would be happy. Not because life was easy, but because happiness is a choice.
Many people spend their lives chasing happiness—through money, power, or success. But as those of us here know, happiness is something deeper. So let us begin—what is the true meaning of happiness?
Viktor, my dear friend, you found happiness even after surviving the worst horrors of the Holocaust. What does happiness mean to you?"
Viktor Frankl:
"Eddie, to me, happiness is not something we chase—it is something that arises when we live with purpose.
People often ask, ‘How can I be happy?’ But I tell them, ‘Do not aim for happiness—aim for meaning, and happiness will follow.’
In Auschwitz, I saw that those who found a purpose—whether it was love, faith, or even a simple goal—had a greater will to survive. Happiness is not about avoiding suffering; it is about finding a reason to keep going despite it.
If we want true happiness, we must ask ourselves: What am I living for? What gives my life meaning? When we find that, we find happiness."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is so powerful, Viktor—happiness is not the goal, but the result of living with purpose.
Albert, you were one of the greatest minds of all time, but you also understood the importance of happiness. What wisdom can you share with us?"
Albert Einstein:
"Eddie, I have often said, ‘A calm and modest life brings more happiness than the pursuit of success combined with constant restlessness.’
Many people believe happiness comes from achievement—from fame, wealth, or power. But I have seen that true happiness comes from simplicity, curiosity, and kindness.
A person who spends their life in wonder, who seeks knowledge not for power but for joy, will always be happy. A person who is kind, who shares love, will always have happiness in their heart.
Happiness is not found in what we accumulate—it is found in how we experience life, in the relationships we nurture, and in the kindness we show to others."
Eddie Jaku:
"Beautifully said, Albert—happiness is not in things, but in how we live and love.
Socrates, you spent your life questioning everything and seeking wisdom. What did you discover about happiness?"
Socrates:
"Eddie, I discovered that happiness is not found in pleasure, but in virtue.
Many people confuse happiness with temporary pleasure—the joy of food, wealth, or entertainment. But these things fade. True happiness comes from living a good life—one of wisdom, integrity, and self-mastery.
I often told my students: ‘Know thyself.’ Because happiness is not something given to us—it is something we create by understanding who we are, what we value, and how we choose to live.
If a man is wise, just, and kind, he will find happiness within himself, no matter his circumstances. But if he chases pleasure alone, he will always be empty, no matter how much he has."
Eddie Jaku:
"That is such an important lesson—happiness is not found outside of us, but within us, in the way we choose to live.
Many people today struggle to find happiness. They feel lost, disconnected, or unfulfilled. What advice would you give to someone who says, ‘I don’t know how to be happy’?"
Viktor Frankl:
"I would tell them: Find something to live for beyond yourself.
Happiness is not found in selfish pleasure; it is found in service, in love, in contributing to something greater than yourself. When you stop asking, ‘What can I get?’ and start asking, ‘What can I give?’ you will find happiness."
Albert Einstein:
"I would say: Never stop being curious.
A happy life is one where we remain full of wonder—where we seek to learn, to explore, to grow. A person who wakes up excited to learn something new, to experience something beautiful, will always have happiness in their heart."
Socrates:
"And I would tell them: Look inward.
If you do not know what makes you happy, start by understanding yourself. Ask: What brings me peace? What fills me with joy? What makes me feel truly alive? When you know yourself, happiness will come naturally."
Eddie Jaku (Closing):
"My dear friends, today we have shared the greatest lesson of all—happiness is not something we chase; it is something we create.
- Viktor reminded us that happiness comes from purpose, not pleasure.
- Albert taught us that happiness is found in curiosity, kindness, and simplicity.
- Socrates showed us that happiness is a result of living wisely and knowing ourselves.
And I will leave you with this: Happiness is a choice we make every day. It is found in gratitude, in kindness, in love. It is found not in what we take from the world, but in what we give to it.
So today, choose happiness. Smile at a stranger. Appreciate the beauty around you. Live with purpose, with curiosity, and with kindness.
Because, my friends, the happiest people are not those who have the most, but those who appreciate the most.
Thank you, my dear friends. May we all walk forward with joy in our hearts and happiness in our souls."
Short Bios:
Eddie Jaku (Moderator) – Holocaust survivor and author of The Happiest Man on Earth. After enduring Nazi concentration camps, he chose happiness and dedicated his life to spreading kindness, gratitude, and resilience.
Viktor Frankl – Holocaust survivor, psychiatrist, and author of Man’s Search for Meaning. He developed logotherapy, emphasizing that finding meaning in life helps us endure suffering.
Louis Zamperini – WWII veteran, Olympic athlete, and prisoner of war survivor. His story of resilience, survival, and forgiveness was told in Unbroken.
Malala Yousafzai – Nobel Peace Prize-winning activist for girls' education. She survived a Taliban assassination attempt and continues to fight for human rights.
Dalai Lama – Spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhism and global advocate for peace, compassion, and inner happiness. He teaches that gratitude and mindfulness lead to a joyful life.
Maya Angelou – Poet, author, and civil rights activist. Her powerful works, including I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, emphasize resilience, love, and self-worth.
Mother Teresa – Catholic nun and humanitarian who devoted her life to serving the poor and sick. She believed in doing "small things with great love."
Fred Rogers (Mister Rogers) – Television host and educator who taught generations about kindness, empathy, and the importance of emotional well-being.
Nelson Mandela – Anti-apartheid leader, Nobel laureate, and former president of South Africa. He spent 27 years in prison and emerged as a global symbol of forgiveness and reconciliation.
Corrie ten Boom – Holocaust survivor and author of The Hiding Place. She forgave the Nazi guards who imprisoned her family and spread a message of grace and faith.
Marcus Aurelius – Roman emperor and Stoic philosopher. His Meditations offer profound insights on resilience, self-discipline, and living with wisdom.
Wayne Dyer – Self-help author and speaker who taught that our thoughts shape our reality. He emphasized the power of gratitude, love, and self-transformation.
Jane Goodall – Primatologist and environmentalist who revolutionized our understanding of animals. She advocates for compassion, conservation, and global responsibility.
Desmond Tutu – Archbishop, Nobel Peace Prize winner, and anti-apartheid activist. He championed forgiveness, peace, and the dignity of every human being.
Albert Einstein – Renowned physicist and deep thinker. Beyond science, he spoke about the importance of curiosity, simplicity, and kindness as the keys to happiness.
Socrates – Ancient Greek philosopher who believed in questioning everything. He taught that wisdom and happiness come from self-knowledge and living a virtuous life.
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