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Billy Graham:
"Brothers and sisters, we live in a time of great change, uncertainty, and division. Across the world, people are searching for meaning, struggling with mental health, navigating cultural shifts, and wrestling with financial burdens. Churches are closing, faith is being questioned, and technology is reshaping how we connect. Some say Christianity is in decline—but I believe we are standing on the edge of something powerful.
Throughout history, the greatest moves of God have come in times of crisis. Revivals were born in moments when society had drifted from faith, when people were desperate for truth, and when believers rose up with boldness and conviction. Today, the world is waiting for a new generation of Christians to step forward—not with fear, but with faith. Not with compromise, but with courage. Not with division, but with love.
In these conversations, I have gathered some of the greatest voices in Christian history—men and women who have shaped revivals, transformed lives, and carried the gospel to every corner of the world. Together, we will tackle the most urgent questions facing the church in 2025:
- How do we navigate technology, AI, and digital culture without losing our faith?
- How can we bring people back to church and reignite evangelism?
- What is the role of Christians in fighting for justice while staying rooted in biblical truth?
- How do we engage in the culture war without losing love and compassion?
- How can the church become a place of healing for mental health and loneliness?
- What is God’s perspective on wealth, stewardship, and materialism?
- And most importantly, how do we prepare for a great spiritual awakening?
The answers to these questions will shape the future of Christianity. But one thing remains certain—Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. The gospel has not lost its power. Revival is still possible. And if we, as the body of Christ, humble ourselves, seek His face, and step out in faith, we will see God move in ways beyond our imagination.
Let us begin."

Faith and Technology – Navigating AI, Social Media, and Digital Influence

Moderator:
Rick Warren
Participants:
T.D. Jakes, Tim Keller, Aimee Semple McPherson, Billy Graham
Rick Warren:
"Welcome, everyone. We’re here to talk about one of the biggest challenges and opportunities for Christians in 2025—technology. From AI to social media, digital platforms are shaping how we live, learn, and even worship. The question is: How do we, as Christians, navigate this world while staying faithful to God’s mission? T.D., let’s start with you. Your ministry has embraced digital platforms—how do you see technology shaping the church today?"
T.D. Jakes:
"Rick, technology is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it allows us to reach millions of people who might never step into a church. Our online services, podcasts, and digital communities have created a way for people to stay connected to their faith no matter where they are. But on the other hand, social media is full of distractions, false teachings, and even hostility toward Christian values. If we’re not careful, people will get their theology from TikTok instead of the Bible."
Rick Warren:
"That’s a real concern. More and more, people are consuming bite-sized spiritual content without deep discipleship. Tim, I know you’ve thought a lot about this—how do we maintain theological depth in a digital age?"
Tim Keller:
"It’s a challenge, but also an opportunity. Technology can be used to reinforce biblical truth if we guide people wisely. The church must be proactive in providing online content that is not just inspirational but deeply theological. For example, rather than just posting quick devotionals, we should encourage long-form engagement—podcasts, digital Bible studies, interactive discussions. The danger is when people consume spirituality like entertainment, hopping from one influencer to another without real discipleship. That’s why churches must invest in digital platforms that foster true community and accountability."
Rick Warren:
"That’s a great point. But we also have to ask: Is digital church enough? Aimee, when you started using radio and media for ministry, some people were skeptical. What would you say about the shift toward online church today?"
Aimee Semple McPherson:
"Oh, Rick, if I were alive today, I’d be on every platform—YouTube, Instagram, AI-generated sermons! (Laughs.) When I started preaching on the radio, people thought it was impersonal, but guess what? It reached people who had never stepped into a church before. The same is true today. The problem isn’t digital church—the problem is when people substitute it for real Christian fellowship. The early church met in person, shared meals, and prayed together. No app can replace that. We have to use technology as a tool, not a replacement for real relationships."
Billy Graham:
"Amen to that, Aimee. I spent my life preaching to millions in stadiums, but my greatest concern was always: Are these people truly transformed, or are they just emotionally moved for a moment? The internet has taken that to another level. People can watch a sermon, feel inspired, and then go right back to their lives unchanged. The church must do more than just ‘broadcast’ the gospel—we have to disciple people, walk with them, and ensure they are rooted in the Word, not just in inspirational content."
Rick Warren:
"That’s so true. It’s easy to consume content without transformation. So how do we disciple people in a digital world? T.D., what are some practical ways to ensure people stay grounded in their faith while engaging with technology?"
T.D. Jakes:
"We have to get creative. Online churches need mentorship programs, small groups, and accountability systems. We can use AI and digital tools to help, but we can’t automate discipleship. People need real pastors, real community, real connection. At The Potter’s House, we encourage people to take what they learn online and apply it offline—serve their communities, meet in home groups, mentor the next generation."
Rick Warren:
"That’s a great approach. Before we wrap up, let’s each share one final piece of advice for Christians navigating technology in 2025. Tim, let’s start with you."
Tim Keller:
"Think critically about what you consume. Test everything against Scripture. Just because someone is popular on social media doesn’t mean they are biblically sound. Be discerning."
Aimee Semple McPherson:
"Use technology to spread love, not just information. It’s easy to argue online, but people need hope, encouragement, and a reason to believe in Christ."
Billy Graham:
"Don’t just watch sermons—live out the gospel. Technology is a tool, but the real power comes from the Holy Spirit transforming lives."
T.D. Jakes:
"Engage with technology, but don’t let it consume you. Put your phone down, open your Bible, and remember that your faith is built on a relationship with Christ, not an algorithm."
Rick Warren:
"That’s a perfect way to end. Technology is here to stay, but our mission remains the same—love God, love people, and make disciples. Let’s use every tool available while keeping our faith deeply rooted in Christ. Thanks, everyone, for this incredible conversation!"
The Decline of Church Attendance and the Future of Evangelism

Moderator:
Billy Graham
Participants:
D.L. Moody, Charles Finney, Rick Warren, Tim Keller
Billy Graham:
"Friends, we are gathered to discuss a challenge facing Christianity today—the decline in church attendance. Fewer people are coming to church, especially young generations, and many are leaving the faith altogether. But this isn’t the first time Christianity has faced such a challenge. How do we bring people back to God in 2025? D.L., as someone who led great revivals, what do you think is missing in today’s churches?"
D.L. Moody:
"Billy, I think the biggest issue is that churches have lost their fire. In my day, revival meant stirring the hearts of the people—bringing conviction, repentance, and transformation. But today, many churches focus more on comfort than conviction. If we want people to return, we must preach the gospel boldly, with power, and trust in the Holy Spirit to work in hearts. Entertainment won’t save people—truth will."
Charles Finney:
"D.L., you’re absolutely right. Revival is not about making people feel good—it’s about calling them to repentance. The problem is, modern culture tells people they don’t need God. Churches must respond by being places of radical transformation, not just social gatherings. If people see true change—hearts on fire for God, miracles of grace, and lives turned around—they will come."
Billy Graham:
"Powerful words. But in a world that’s more distracted than ever, how do we even reach people? Rick, you’ve built one of the largest churches in America—how do you bring people in?"
Rick Warren:
"The church needs to meet people where they are. We can’t just open the doors and hope they come. We must be intentional—through relationships, social media, and serving our communities. People today aren’t asking, ‘Where’s a good church?’ They’re asking, ‘Where can I find meaning, belonging, and hope?’ We must show them that Jesus is the answer to those questions."
Tim Keller:
"That’s exactly it, Rick. The church has to speak the language of the culture without compromising the gospel. Many young people see the church as irrelevant or judgmental. We need to engage them with wisdom—answering their intellectual doubts, addressing social issues from a biblical perspective, and creating spaces where real conversations happen. The gospel is as powerful as ever, but we must present it in a way that resonates with this generation."
Billy Graham:
"Some might say churches have become too accommodating—too focused on being ‘relevant’ rather than preaching repentance. How do we balance truth and grace?"
D.L. Moody:
"Jesus was both loving and firm—He ate with sinners, but He also told them, ‘Go and sin no more.’ Churches need to do the same. Show love, but never water down the message. A weak gospel doesn’t save—it only entertains."
Charles Finney:
"I’d add that personal holiness matters. If Christians don’t live differently, why would the world listen? Revival starts in the church—when believers repent, pray, and live transformed lives, others will take notice."
Rick Warren:
"And we have to make church more than a service—it has to be a movement. Churches should focus on small groups, discipleship, and practical ways for people to live out their faith daily. If people feel disconnected, they’ll leave. But if they’re deeply involved in a community that cares about them, they’ll stay."
Tim Keller:
"I’d also encourage intellectual engagement. Many people leave the church because they think it doesn’t answer life’s big questions. We must engage with philosophy, science, and culture in a way that strengthens faith rather than ignoring doubts."
Billy Graham:
"Before we close, let’s each share one key strategy for bringing people back to the faith in 2025. D.L., let’s start with you."
D.L. Moody:
"Preach the gospel with power. Don’t dilute the message—let the Holy Spirit do the work of conviction and transformation."
Charles Finney:
"Revival starts with us. If we want the world to turn to God, the church must first humble itself, repent, and seek Him fervently."
Rick Warren:
"Meet people where they are—on social media, in their workplaces, in their struggles. Show them that faith is relevant to their daily lives."
Tim Keller:
"Engage with culture thoughtfully. Christianity isn’t just for Sunday mornings—it speaks to every aspect of life, from philosophy to politics to mental health. Show people how faith makes sense in today’s world."
Billy Graham:
"All great insights. At the end of the day, the power of the gospel remains unchanged. It is our job to go into the world and share the good news with love, courage, and wisdom. Let’s be faithful to that calling, and trust God to bring revival."
Where Faith Meets Action

Moderator:
Martin Luther King Jr.
Participants:
Jonathan Edwards, T.D. Jakes, Oral Roberts, Aimee Semple McPherson
Martin Luther King Jr.:
"My friends, we are gathered here today to discuss a pressing issue—the role of Christianity in social justice. Throughout history, the church has been a force for good, standing up against oppression, advocating for the poor, and fighting for equality. But in 2025, the question remains: How do we, as followers of Christ, continue to bring justice to a broken world? Jonathan, let’s start with you. You were a leader in the First Great Awakening and called for moral responsibility—what would you say about today’s challenges?"
Jonathan Edwards:
"Dr. King, justice has always been tied to the gospel. Many forget that revivals are not just about personal salvation but about social transformation. In my time, I preached against slavery and called for moral renewal. The church must take sin seriously—not just personal sin, but systemic sin. If we turn a blind eye to injustice, we fail to live out the gospel."
Martin Luther King Jr.:
"That’s a powerful truth, Jonathan. Too often, Christians see faith as just a private matter, but real faith demands action. T.D., you’ve spoken on the role of the church in racial reconciliation and economic justice—how do we move forward?"
T.D. Jakes:
"Dr. King, the church must reclaim its prophetic voice. Too many churches are silent on issues that affect real people—poverty, racial division, mass incarceration. Jesus didn’t avoid the tough topics; He walked among the oppressed, healed the broken, and challenged those in power. We must do the same. But we can’t just talk about justice—we must do justice. That means investing in our communities, mentoring young people, and using our platforms to advocate for real change."
Oral Roberts:
"I agree, T.D. And we can’t forget the power of faith in the process. Social justice without spiritual renewal falls short. I spent my life preaching about healing—not just physical healing, but healing for society. When people encounter Christ, they change from the inside out. And when enough people change, societies change. That’s why we must combine action with faith—we don’t just fight injustice; we bring the power of God into broken systems."
Martin Luther King Jr.:
"That’s a crucial point, Oral. Some Christians get caught up in activism but forget the spiritual foundation. Others focus on faith but ignore injustice. We must do both. Aimee, you pioneered Christian social outreach in the 20th century—how do you see the role of the church today?"
Aimee Semple McPherson:
"Oh, Dr. King, if I were alive today, I’d be running food banks, shelters, and online ministries all at once! (Laughs.) I believed in action. Faith without works is dead. I built a church that not only preached the gospel but fed the hungry and clothed the poor. Today’s church must do the same. The world doesn’t just need sermons—it needs love in action. That’s why we need to mobilize every believer to be a force for good in their communities."
Martin Luther King Jr.:
"That’s an important reminder, Aimee. The gospel must be lived out. But let’s talk about resistance—some people say that the church shouldn’t get ‘political.’ They argue that social justice distracts from the message of salvation. Jonathan, how would you respond to that?"
Jonathan Edwards:
"I would say that true Christianity has never been passive. The Bible calls us to defend the weak, love our neighbor, and stand against evil. To ignore injustice is to ignore Christ Himself. Some in my time resisted calls to end slavery, just as people today resist confronting racial and economic injustice. But revival brings both spiritual and social change—we cannot separate them."
T.D. Jakes:
"Exactly, Jonathan. People love to quote Jesus when it’s comfortable, but forget that He flipped tables in the temple. Justice is part of the gospel. If the church remains silent on issues of oppression, we are complicit. But here’s the key—we don’t fight like the world fights. We fight with wisdom, love, and the power of the Holy Spirit."
Oral Roberts:
"And prayer is part of that fight. We must be on our knees just as much as we are in the streets. Social change that lacks spiritual power is temporary. We need revival—one that transforms hearts and systems alike."
Martin Luther King Jr.:
"Well said, Oral. Let’s close with one final thought from each of you—what is one action every Christian can take today to bring justice into the world? Aimee, let’s start with you."
Aimee Semple McPherson:
"Love your neighbor in tangible ways. Find someone in need and help them—whether it’s food, shelter, or simply a listening ear."
Jonathan Edwards:
"Speak truth, even when it’s unpopular. Justice begins when righteous people refuse to stay silent."
T.D. Jakes:
"Use your gifts for change. Whether you’re a preacher, a business leader, or a student—use what God gave you to lift others up."
Oral Roberts:
"Pray for revival—but don’t stop there. Be the hands and feet of Christ in the world."
Martin Luther King Jr.:
"That’s the call of the gospel—faith in action. Let’s go out and build the kingdom of God, not just in words, but in deeds. Thank you all for this incredible conversation!"
Balancing Biblical Truth with Love and Compassion

Moderator:
Tim Keller
Participants:
Billy Graham, D.L. Moody, T.D. Jakes, Rick Warren
Tim Keller:
"Welcome, everyone. We are here to discuss one of the most challenging issues facing Christians today—the cultural divide. Society is shifting rapidly, and many Christians feel caught between standing firm in biblical truth and showing Christlike love to those who disagree. How do we engage culture without compromising our faith? Billy, let’s start with you—throughout your ministry, you reached people from all backgrounds. How did you maintain truth while still being welcoming?"
Billy Graham:
"Tim, I always believed that the gospel is for everyone. You don’t compromise the truth, but you also don’t push people away with judgmental attitudes. When I preached, I focused on Jesus—not politics, not debates, just Jesus. And when people met Him, their lives changed. We must remember that our job isn’t to force change; it’s to introduce people to the One who transforms hearts."
Tim Keller:
"That’s a great point. Sometimes, Christians feel they have to ‘win’ culture wars rather than focus on winning souls. D.L., in your time, you saw massive cultural shifts—how did you approach controversial issues?"
D.L. Moody:
"I preached the Bible, plain and simple. People argue about a lot of things, but one thing never changes—human hearts need God. If the church spends too much time fighting culture, it risks losing sight of its mission. My focus was on revival, not politics. When people truly encounter Christ, they begin to change from the inside out. We don’t need to force culture to conform to Christianity—we need to bring Christ to the culture."
Tim Keller:
"So instead of leading with arguments, we lead with the gospel itself. But what about modern issues—things like gender identity, sexuality, and social ideologies? T.D., you’ve spoken about navigating tough cultural conversations—how do we engage with people who strongly disagree with Christian values?"
T.D. Jakes:
"We have to remember that Jesus was full of grace and truth. That’s the balance. He never excused sin, but He also never turned away the sinner. Too many Christians think they have to choose between truth and love, but that’s a false choice. We can do both. If we want people to hear the truth, we have to first show them that we love them. You can’t correct someone you don’t first connect with."
Tim Keller:
"That’s powerful, T.D. People don’t listen to those they feel don’t care about them. Rick, your book The Purpose Driven Life impacted millions—including people who weren’t believers. How do we make Christianity relevant without watering down the message?"
Rick Warren:
"The key is to meet people where they are. Everyone is searching for meaning, identity, and belonging. If we start by answering those deep needs—showing them how much God loves them—people will be more open to the truth. The problem is, too many churches either compromise on truth to be accepted, or they become harsh and unapproachable. Jesus didn’t do either. He was clear about sin, but He was also irresistible to sinners because of His love."
Tim Keller:
"So it’s about building bridges instead of walls. But let’s be honest—some Christians feel like culture is becoming hostile to their beliefs. Billy, you lived through many social changes. What would you say to believers today who feel like Christianity is under attack?"
Billy Graham:
"I would tell them what Jesus told His disciples: ‘In this world, you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.’ Christianity has always faced opposition. The early church was persecuted. Missionaries have been imprisoned and killed for their faith. The question isn’t, ‘Is the world against us?’ The question is, ‘Are we faithful to Christ?’ If we stay faithful, no matter what culture does, the gospel will continue to spread."
D.L. Moody:
"And I’d add that the best way to respond to hostility is with undeniable love. The world may mock Christians, but when they see real kindness, real service, real joy—they’ll be drawn to it. You can’t argue with a transformed life."
T.D. Jakes:
"That’s exactly right. The culture war isn’t going to be won by debates—it will be won by love. If people see the church as a place of healing instead of judgment, they’ll come running. We don’t need to prove we’re right; we need to prove that God is good."
Tim Keller:
"That’s an important shift in perspective. We’re not here to ‘win’ against culture—we’re here to bring people to Jesus. So, as we close, let’s each share one piece of advice for Christians struggling to balance truth and love in today’s world. Rick, let’s start with you."
Rick Warren:
"Focus on relationships. People won’t listen to truth until they know they’re loved. Build friendships, serve your community, and share Christ naturally through your life."
D.L. Moody:
"Keep the gospel at the center. Don’t get distracted by every cultural debate—preach Christ, and let the Holy Spirit do the convicting."
Billy Graham:
"Stay faithful. Culture changes, but God’s Word does not. If you stand on His truth with love, you have nothing to fear."
T.D. Jakes:
"Don’t just preach love—live it. Be the hands and feet of Jesus in the world. When people see real Christianity, they’ll be drawn to it."
Tim Keller:
"That’s a perfect way to end. Let’s be Christians who stand firm in truth but also reach out with radical love. If we do that, we won’t just survive the culture wars—we’ll transform lives. Thank you all for this powerful discussion!"
Mental Health, Loneliness, and the Christian Response

Moderator:
T.D. Jakes
Participants:
Rick Warren, Oral Roberts, Martin Luther King Jr., Tim Keller
T.D. Jakes:
"Brothers, we are here today to talk about something affecting millions—mental health and loneliness. Anxiety, depression, and isolation are at an all-time high, and even believers are struggling. The church has traditionally been slow to address these issues, but we can’t afford to ignore them any longer. How do we, as Christians, support those battling mental health challenges? Rick, let’s start with you—you’ve been open about your own struggles. How can the church do better?"
Rick Warren:
"T.D., you’re right—this is a crisis. And unfortunately, many churches have treated mental health as just a ‘spiritual problem’ instead of recognizing it as a real emotional and medical challenge. After my son died by suicide, I realized that the church must break the stigma around mental health. Christians need to understand that seeking counseling, taking medication, or getting therapy isn’t a lack of faith—it’s wisdom. The church must be a place of healing, not judgment."
T.D. Jakes:
"Amen, Rick. Too many people suffer in silence because they’re afraid of being judged. But Jesus came to heal the whole person—spirit, mind, and body. Oral, you preached healing throughout your ministry. How does faith play a role in mental health?"
Oral Roberts:
"T.D., healing is at the heart of the gospel. When Jesus walked the earth, He didn’t just heal people physically—He restored their hearts and minds. But here’s what I tell people: Healing isn’t always instant. Sometimes, it’s a process. Some people need prayer, some need therapy, and some need both. That’s why churches must be places of ongoing care, not just quick fixes. We need to teach people that faith and medical treatment can go hand in hand."
T.D. Jakes:
"That’s so true. The church can’t just say ‘pray about it’ and move on. We need real, practical support systems. Dr. King, during the Civil Rights Movement, you saw unimaginable stress and struggle. How did faith help you and others overcome fear and despair?"
Martin Luther King Jr.:
"T.D., faith was our foundation. We faced threats, persecution, and loss, but we knew that God was with us. One thing I learned is that suffering alone is unbearable, but suffering in community can be transformative. Many people today feel alone, but the church must remind them—they are not alone. We need to build strong, loving communities where people can share their burdens. Isolation is the enemy of healing."
Tim Keller:
"That’s a powerful point, Dr. King. I’d also add that many people struggle with mental health because they feel life has no meaning. Our culture tells people they must create their own purpose, which leads to exhaustion and anxiety. But the gospel tells us that meaning is given to us—we are loved, valued, and have a purpose in Christ. If we can help people understand that, we can offer them real hope."
T.D. Jakes:
"That’s deep, Tim. People are carrying so much weight—unrealistic expectations, past trauma, fear about the future. How do we help them release it?"
Rick Warren:
"We teach them the power of surrender. The reason many people are overwhelmed is because they’re trying to control everything. But peace comes when we trust God. That’s why Jesus said, ‘Come to me, all you who are weary, and I will give you rest.’ The church must teach people how to really lay their burdens at Jesus’ feet."
Martin Luther King Jr.:
"And we must remind them that God is still at work, even in their pain. When I was in a jail cell, I didn’t know how things would turn out—but I knew God had a plan. People today need that same assurance. Suffering is not the end of the story. There is hope, and as long as there is hope, there is life."
Oral Roberts:
"I’d also say that we need to reclaim joy in the church. The enemy wants people to live in constant fear and sadness, but Jesus said, ‘I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.’ Christians need to live—not just survive, but thrive. We should be the most joyful, most hopeful people in the world, even when life is tough."
T.D. Jakes:
"That’s so good, Oral. The church should be a refuge, not just a place for sermons. We need to create environments where people feel safe talking about their struggles, without fear of judgment. Before we close, let’s each share one practical way the church can help people struggling with mental health and loneliness. Tim, let’s start with you."
Tim Keller:
"Encourage deep relationships. People need more than Sunday services—they need small groups, mentorship, and one-on-one connections."
Oral Roberts:
"Teach about faith and healing together. Pray for healing, but also encourage counseling and medical help when needed."
Martin Luther King Jr.:
"Fight isolation. The church must be present in people’s lives, through visits, calls, and real community support."
Rick Warren:
"End the stigma. The church must be a place where it’s okay to say, ‘I’m struggling.’ Let’s make mental health support normal in our ministries."
T.D. Jakes:
"I love that. And I’ll add this—let’s remind people that they matter. No matter what they’re facing, God is with them, and they are never alone. If we can do that, we can bring healing to a hurting world. Thank you all for this powerful discussion!"
The Role of Wealth, Stewardship, and Materialism in Modern Christianity

Moderator:
Oral Roberts
Participants:
Rick Warren, Billy Graham, D.L. Moody, Jonathan Edwards
Oral Roberts:
"Brothers, today we are discussing an issue that has shaped Christianity in every generation—wealth, stewardship, and materialism. Some say money is evil; others say it’s a blessing. In 2025, people are struggling with financial stress, economic inequality, and the prosperity gospel debate. What does biblical wealth look like? Let’s start with you, Rick—you wrote The Purpose Driven Life, and your ministry has taught financial stewardship. How should Christians view money?"
Rick Warren:
"Oral, I always say, money is a tool, not a god. The Bible doesn’t say money is evil—it says the love of money is the root of all evil. Money can be used to bless others or to destroy lives. When I started Saddleback Church, I made a commitment to live below my means, and after The Purpose Driven Life became a bestseller, I gave away 90% of my income. Why? Because money is a test of the heart. If you trust God, you don’t need to cling to money—you use it wisely, generously, and with integrity."
Oral Roberts:
"That’s a great perspective, Rick. But let’s be honest—many people struggle with finances. They barely make ends meet and feel like God is silent about their struggles. Billy, what do you say to Christians who feel financially stuck?"
Billy Graham:
"First, I’d remind them that our ultimate security isn’t in money, but in God. That doesn’t mean we ignore financial wisdom—it means we trust God first and then work with diligence. Jesus spoke about money more than almost any other topic because He knew it could either serve us or enslave us. We must learn to be good stewards, avoiding debt, living simply, and using what we have to bless others. But we also need to remember that true wealth isn’t found in possessions—it’s found in our relationship with Christ."
Oral Roberts:
"That’s so true, Billy. People often confuse success with wealth. D.L., in your time, you saw a society rapidly changing—business was booming, and materialism was growing. How did you teach people to keep their priorities straight?"
D.L. Moody:
"I preached that God blesses us so that we can bless others. There’s nothing wrong with making money, but the moment wealth owns you, it becomes a curse. I’ve seen poor men who were rich in faith and rich men who were poor in spirit. The key is contentment. Paul said, ‘I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation.’ That’s the secret—to trust God whether you have little or much. And when He blesses you, don’t hoard—give."
Oral Roberts:
"That’s a powerful lesson. But let’s talk about the prosperity gospel. Some teach that faith guarantees financial success. Others reject that entirely and say Christians should live in poverty. Jonathan, as a theologian, what’s the biblical balance?"
Jonathan Edwards:
"The prosperity gospel is a distortion of biblical truth. Does God bless His people? Absolutely. But does that always mean financial wealth? No. In Scripture, some of God’s most faithful servants—Paul, Job, and even Jesus—experienced hardship. God’s blessing isn’t measured by bank accounts. True prosperity is spiritual, not material. The real question isn’t, ‘How much money do I have?’ but ‘How am I using what God has given me?’ That’s the measure of a godly steward."
Oral Roberts:
"Exactly! God is our provider, but that doesn’t mean we’ll all be millionaires. It means He’ll supply our needs and guide us in managing what we have. But people in 2025 are dealing with rising costs, student debt, and job insecurity. Rick, how can churches help?"
Rick Warren:
"Churches need to teach financial literacy. Too many Christians are in debt because they’ve never learned how to handle money biblically. We need to teach budgeting, saving, generosity, and avoiding debt. Imagine if churches not only preached about giving but trained people to manage their money wisely! The goal isn’t just for individuals to prosper—it’s for whole communities to thrive."
Billy Graham:
"And we must teach people contentment. The world says, ‘You need more to be happy.’ But Jesus says, ‘Come to me, and I will give you rest.’ The richest man in the world is the one who needs the least because he is fully satisfied in Christ."
D.L. Moody:
"That’s why generosity is so important! Giving breaks the power of greed. If every Christian tithed and gave sacrificially, imagine how many lives could be changed! God doesn’t bless us just to make us comfortable—He blesses us so we can be a blessing."
Oral Roberts:
"I love that, D.L. Giving is the antidote to greed. Jonathan, as we close, what’s one biblical principle every Christian should remember about money?"
Jonathan Edwards:
"Money is a tool for God’s kingdom, not for self-glory. If you seek wealth only for yourself, it will destroy you. But if you see wealth as a way to serve God and others, it will bless you and those around you."
Oral Roberts:
"That’s the heart of biblical stewardship—money is a servant, not a master. Before we end, let’s each share one final takeaway. Rick?"
Rick Warren:
"Live simply, give generously, and trust God completely."
Billy Graham:
"Money can’t buy peace, joy, or salvation—only Christ can."
D.L. Moody:
"God gives to you so He can give through you. Be a blessing!"
Jonathan Edwards:
"Measure wealth not by what you keep, but by what you give away for the glory of God."
Oral Roberts:
"That’s a perfect way to end. Let’s use what God has given us wisely, remembering that true riches are found in faith, not fortune. Thank you all for this incredible discussion!"
Revival and the Role of the Holy Spirit in a Changing World

Moderator:
Billy Graham
Participants:
Charles Finney, D.L. Moody, Oral Roberts, Aimee Semple McPherson
Billy Graham:
"Brothers and sister, we are here today to discuss one of the most important and urgent topics in 2025—revival. Throughout history, we’ve seen great awakenings, movements of the Holy Spirit that changed nations. But today, many say the church is in decline, that people are turning away from God. My question to you all is this—can there be another great revival, and if so, how do we prepare for it? Charles, you were one of the leaders of the Second Great Awakening—what do you believe is necessary for true revival?"
Charles Finney:
"Billy, revival is not just something we ‘hope’ for—it is something we prepare for. When people humble themselves, repent, and seek God earnestly, revival follows. The problem today is that many Christians want revival without repentance. They want God to move, but they don’t want to change. If the church wants revival, it must return to holiness, prayer, and absolute surrender to God. The Holy Spirit moves where He is welcomed."
Billy Graham:
"That’s powerful, Charles. Repentance is key. Too often, we ask for blessings without transformation. D.L., you also led powerful evangelistic movements. What do you see as the biggest obstacle to revival today?"
D.L. Moody:
"Complacency. People are too comfortable. The early church was on fire because they needed God. Today, many churches are more concerned with entertainment than with eternity. True revival comes when people realize they are desperate for God—not just on Sundays, but every day. We don’t need more programs—we need power. And that power comes when Christians get serious about prayer and evangelism."
Billy Graham:
"That’s a real challenge in 2025, when distractions are everywhere. Oral, you spoke about the power of healing and miracles—do you think signs and wonders still have a role in revival today?"
Oral Roberts:
"Absolutely, Billy. The gospel is not just words—it’s power. People need to see that God is real, that He still heals, delivers, and moves today. In every revival, there were manifestations of God’s presence—whether through miracles, changed lives, or powerful preaching. But let me say this—miracles alone don’t sustain revival. What sustains it is discipleship. People must not only experience God but grow in faith."
Billy Graham:
"That’s a key point, Oral. Revival isn’t just a moment—it must lead to a movement of lasting faith. Aimee, you used creative ways—radio, drama, and massive outreach—to bring people to God. How should the church reach this generation?"
Aimee Semple McPherson:
"Billy, the message never changes, but the methods must. If I were alive today, I’d be using every tool possible—social media, video, and even AI—to spread the gospel! People are hungry for something real. The church must be bold in its witness. Revival won’t happen if we stay silent. We must proclaim the gospel with fire, with passion, and without compromise. And we must engage people where they are. If they’re online, we go online. If they’re lost, we go find them. The harvest is ready, but the workers must go!"
Billy Graham:
"I love that! Revival isn’t just about waiting—it’s about going. Charles, you preached some of the most passionate sermons on repentance. What role does conviction play in revival today?"
Charles Finney:
"Conviction is everything, Billy. No one seeks a Savior unless they know they need saving. The Holy Spirit convicts hearts, but the church must be willing to preach the full gospel. That means talking about sin, redemption, and holiness—not just blessings and breakthroughs. If we want revival, we must preach the truth, even when it’s uncomfortable."
D.L. Moody:
"And we must back it up with action. People aren’t just listening to what we say—they’re watching how we live. If Christians don’t live differently from the world, why would anyone be drawn to Christ? Revival starts in us. If we want to see the fire of God fall, we must be willing to be set on fire first."
Billy Graham:
"That’s so true, D.L. Revival is not just about crowds—it’s about transformed lives. Oral, you saw firsthand how faith and expectation play a role in revival. How do we build that expectation today?"
Oral Roberts:
"We must teach people to believe again. Too many Christians have settled for a powerless faith. They read about miracles in the Bible but don’t expect them in their lives. Faith activates revival. When people expect God to move, He does. But faith comes by hearing—so we must preach the gospel boldly, proclaiming that God is still the same yesterday, today, and forever!"
Billy Graham:
"That’s powerful, Oral. Before we close, let’s each share one action the church can take today to prepare for revival. Aimee, let’s start with you."
Aimee Semple McPherson:
"Get bold! Stop being afraid to share the gospel. Use every means possible to reach people, and don’t water it down!"
Charles Finney:
"Return to prayer and repentance. Without holiness, there is no revival."
D.L. Moody:
"Live what you preach. If Christians are on fire, others will come to see what’s burning."
Oral Roberts:
"Expect miracles. Believe that God still moves today, and act on that faith!"
Billy Graham:
"And I’ll add this—preach Christ. Revival isn’t about emotions or trends; it’s about Jesus. Lift Him up, and He will draw people to Himself. Let’s pray and work for revival, believing that God is ready to move!"
Final Thoughts by Billy Graham: A Call to Faith, Action, and Revival
"My friends, we have covered some of the most pressing issues facing Christianity in 2025. We have talked about technology and how the church must embrace new ways to share the gospel without losing its foundation. We have examined the decline in church attendance and the need for a fresh movement of evangelism. We have wrestled with questions of justice, culture, mental health, financial stewardship, and, above all, the necessity of revival.
Through it all, one truth has become clear—the world is searching for hope. People are tired, burdened, and lost. They are looking for meaning, for truth, for something real. And we, as followers of Jesus Christ, have been entrusted with the greatest message the world will ever hear. But the question is—what will we do with it?
Will we stay silent while the world drifts further from God? Will we let fear, distraction, or division keep us from sharing the gospel? Or will we rise up, stand firm in the truth, and bring the light of Christ into the darkness?
Revival is not just something we wait for—it is something we pray for, prepare for, and work for. It starts in our own hearts, in our own churches, and in our own communities. If we want to see God move in a powerful way, we must return to prayer, to holiness, and to a bold proclamation of the gospel.
Throughout history, every great awakening has begun when ordinary people—young and old, rich and poor—humbled themselves, repented, and sought God with all their hearts. And if we do the same today, I believe we will see another great move of the Holy Spirit.
So my final words to you are these:
- Stay faithful. The world may change, but God’s Word never does.
- Stay prayerful. Revival is born on our knees.
- Stay bold. The gospel is the power of God for salvation—never be ashamed to share it.
- Stay loving. The world will know we belong to Christ by our love.
- Stay expectant. God is not finished yet. The best days for the church are not behind us—they are still ahead.
Let us go forward with faith, with courage, and with a fire in our hearts, believing that Jesus Christ is still moving, still saving, and still calling people to Himself. The harvest is ready—the only question is: Will we be the workers?
May God bless you, may He strengthen you, and may we see a mighty revival in our time. Amen."
Short Bios:
Billy Graham (1918–2018) – One of the most influential evangelists of the 20th century, Graham preached to millions worldwide and advised U.S. presidents. His crusades emphasized salvation, repentance, and the power of the gospel.
Martin Luther King Jr. (1929–1968) – A Baptist minister and leader of the Civil Rights Movement, King combined faith and activism, advocating for racial justice and equality through nonviolent resistance.
Charles Finney (1792–1875) – A key figure in the Second Great Awakening, Finney was known for his passionate revivalist preaching and strong emphasis on personal repentance and social reform.
D.L. Moody (1837–1899) – A renowned 19th-century evangelist, Moody founded the Moody Bible Institute and led mass revival meetings, focusing on simple, heartfelt preaching and the urgency of salvation.
Jonathan Edwards (1703–1758) – A theologian and revivalist preacher, Edwards played a major role in the First Great Awakening, delivering the famous sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.
Oral Roberts (1918–2009) – A charismatic evangelist known for faith healing and televangelism, Roberts founded Oral Roberts University and promoted a message of God’s power to heal and prosper.
Aimee Semple McPherson (1890–1944) – A pioneering female evangelist and founder of the Foursquare Church, McPherson used media and theatrical sermons to bring revival to America in the early 20th century.
Rick Warren (1954– ) – Founder of Saddleback Church and author of The Purpose Driven Life, Warren is known for his practical Christian teachings on faith, purpose, and church growth.
T.D. Jakes (1957– ) – Bishop of The Potter’s House in Dallas, Jakes is a dynamic preacher, bestselling author, and leader known for his teachings on faith, resilience, and personal growth.
Tim Keller (1950–2023) – A respected pastor, theologian, and founder of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City, Keller was known for his intellectual approach to faith and cultural engagement.
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