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Welcome, everyone! I am beyond thrilled to bring you into a truly extraordinary moment—a conversation that transcends time, space, and even the boundaries of our imaginations. Picture this: two of the most profound spiritual figures in history—Jesus Christ and Rev. Sun Myung Moon—coming together to share their hearts, their wisdom, and their divine insights into the very essence of God’s love.
This isn’t just any conversation. This is a deep dive into the heart of the Creator Himself—a heart that is filled with boundless love, yet has endured unimaginable grief due to the separation of His children. Jesus and Rev. Moon, united as brothers under our Heavenly Parent, explore the nature of true love, the intense sorrow God feels over humanity’s estrangement, and the incredible joy He experiences when even one soul is restored to His embrace.
They discuss what it means to live in alignment with God’s will and how we, as His children, can contribute to His vision for the Kingdom of Heaven on earth—a world where love, peace, and unity reign supreme. This Kingdom isn’t some distant, unattainable dream. It’s a reality that both Jesus and Rev. Moon believe can be built here and now, starting in our hearts, our families, and our communities.
In this imagined conversation, you’ll hear about the power of true love—love that is selfless, sacrificial, and rooted in the very nature of God. You’ll be inspired by their insights on the joy of restoration, where every step we take towards healing our relationships with God and each other brings us closer to fulfilling God’s original dream for humanity.
So, I invite you to open your hearts and minds as we step into this sacred space, where Jesus and Rev. Moon guide us through the divine mysteries of God’s heart. This is more than just a conversation—it’s a call to action, a reminder of our own potential to live lives of profound love and purpose. Let’s embark on this journey together, and may it inspire each of us to bring a little more of Heaven into our everyday lives.
The Parental Heart of God
Jesus: Brother Moon, when I was on earth, I often spoke of God as our Heavenly Father, the one who watches over His children with a heart full of love and compassion. I tried to convey to people how deep and abiding this love is, but even then, I felt that many could not fully grasp the intensity of God’s parental heart. How do you see the expression of this heart in your ministry?
Rev. Moon: Brother Jesus, the heart of God as our Parent is indeed the very essence of His being. It is a heart filled with an unimaginable depth of love, a love that was the foundation of all creation. God’s parental heart is the origin of the universe, the driving force behind all life, and the source of the boundless energy that sustains all existence. God, as our Father, envisioned His children living in complete harmony and joy, reflecting His own divine attributes in their lives.
Yet, the tragedy of the Fall disrupted this divine vision. When Adam and Eve fell, it was not merely an act of disobedience but a betrayal of the heart. They turned away from God’s heart of love, choosing instead a path of selfishness and separation. The pain God felt at that moment was not just the sorrow of a Creator witnessing His creation falter, but the deep anguish of a Parent losing His beloved children.
Jesus: Yes, our Father’s heart was deeply wounded. When I came to the earth, it was to heal that wound and restore the relationship between God and His children. But the people did not understand the depth of God’s love, and they rejected me. The heartache that God experienced then was immense, yet His love never wavered. Even in His grief, He continued to reach out to His children, hoping for their return.
Rev. Moon: That unwavering love is the essence of God’s parental heart. It is a love that is absolute, unchanging, and eternal. God’s heart is that of a Parent who sees the potential in each of His children, even when they themselves cannot see it. He longs to embrace each one of us, to wipe away our tears, and to guide us back to the original path of goodness.
But, as you experienced, Brother Jesus, God’s heart is often misunderstood. People see God’s commandments as restrictive, not realizing that they are the expression of His love, meant to protect us from harm and guide us to true happiness. In my ministry, I have emphasized the importance of understanding God’s heart as a parent. We must return to that original relationship where we see God not as a distant ruler, but as our loving Father who desires nothing more than our happiness and fulfillment.
Jesus: True, Brother Moon. That happiness can only be found in a relationship with God that is rooted in love, trust, and obedience. When we align our hearts with God’s, we begin to understand the depth of His love for us. It is a love that never gives up, that always believes in us, and that is always ready to forgive and restore. This is the message I sought to bring to the people, and it is the message you have carried forward so faithfully.
Rev. Moon: Yes, Brother Jesus, our mission has always been to awaken people to the reality of God’s heart. The world is filled with so much pain and suffering because people are separated from this love. They are like children who have lost their way, not knowing that their Father is searching for them, calling out to them, and waiting with open arms. The restoration of the world begins with the restoration of this relationship. When we, as God’s children, respond to His heart and return to His embrace, the Kingdom of Heaven can finally be realized on earth.
Jesus: And in that Kingdom, the parental heart of God will be fully known and experienced by all. Every tear will be wiped away, and every heart will be filled with the joy of being truly loved. This is the hope and the promise we must keep alive in our work.
Rev. Moon: Indeed, Brother Jesus. Let us continue to spread this message, to awaken the hearts of all people to the love of their Heavenly Father, and to bring them back into the fold of God’s parental heart. For in this lies the true salvation of humanity and the fulfillment of God’s eternal dream.
Jesus: Together, Brother Moon, we will guide them back to the heart of our Father, where they will find the love and peace they have long sought. This is our shared mission, and in it, we will find the greatest joy.
God’s Grief and Suffering
Jesus: Brother Moon, one aspect of God’s heart that often goes unnoticed is His immense grief and suffering. During my time on earth, I tried to communicate the deep sorrow that our Father experiences because of humanity’s separation from Him. Yet, many people view God as distant and unaffected by our world. How do you convey the reality of God’s suffering in your teachings?
Rev. Moon: Brother Jesus, God’s grief is indeed one of the most profound and tragic aspects of His heart. The world often overlooks the fact that God is not just a sovereign being ruling over creation, but He is also a parent who has been deeply hurt by the fall of His children. From the moment Adam and Eve fell, God’s heart has been engulfed in sorrow. The Fall was not just the loss of human innocence; it was the loss of His direct and loving relationship with His children. This has caused God unending grief throughout history.
The suffering of God is not like human suffering; it is far deeper because it is intertwined with His infinite love. Every time humanity falls further into sin and separation, God’s heart breaks anew. This is not because He is weak, but because His love is so strong and so personal. Just as a parent suffers more than their child when the child is in pain, God’s suffering is magnified by His overwhelming love for us.
Jesus: Indeed, Brother Moon, when I was crucified, I felt not just my own pain, but also the unbearable weight of God’s sorrow. It wasn’t just the physical agony that weighed on me, but the knowledge that this act was a culmination of humanity’s rejection of God’s love. Yet even in that moment, God’s heart was filled with compassion and a longing for reconciliation, not retribution.
Rev. Moon: Your sacrifice, Brother Jesus, was the ultimate expression of God’s suffering love. Through it, you demonstrated the depth of God’s heart—a heart that was willing to endure unimaginable pain for the sake of saving His lost children. Yet, even with your incredible act of love, the world did not fully understand the suffering of God. People often think of God as impassive or detached from human affairs, but nothing could be further from the truth.
God’s grief is so great because it stems from love unfulfilled. The original ideal of creation was for God to share His love with His children and for them to return that love. However, because of the Fall, that cycle of love was broken. God’s love, which was meant to flow freely to His children, has been met with rejection and betrayal time and time again throughout history. This is the source of God’s deep and enduring sorrow.
Jesus: Yes, Brother Moon, and it is important to convey to people that this grief is not just about the past. God’s heart continues to grieve today as humanity remains distant from Him. Every act of sin, every moment of selfishness, adds to His sorrow. But what amazes me most is that despite this grief, God never ceases to love. His suffering only deepens His resolve to bring His children back to Him.
Rev. Moon: That is the essence of God’s parental heart—His grief does not diminish His love; rather, it magnifies it. God’s suffering is a testament to the depth of His love for us. It is a love that is willing to endure all things in the hope that we, His children, will one day return to Him. This is why the work of restoration is so urgent and so central to our mission. It is not just about saving souls; it is about healing the heart of God.
Jesus: And in healing God’s heart, we also find our own healing. When we recognize the pain our separation causes Him, it should move us to repentance and a deep desire to restore our relationship with Him. Our lives should be dedicated to alleviating God’s sorrow by living in a way that brings Him joy and fulfillment.
Rev. Moon: Exactly, Brother Jesus. This is why understanding God’s grief is so important. It changes our perspective on life and on our relationship with God. We are not merely living for ourselves; we are living to bring comfort to our Heavenly Parent. When we live with this awareness, our actions take on a greater significance. Every act of love, every effort to restore goodness, is a step towards relieving the burden of God’s heart.
Jesus: And in that, we find the true meaning of our existence. We are here to become children who can bring joy to our Heavenly Father, who can transform His sorrow into joy. This is the essence of our mission, Brother Moon, to help all people understand and share in this purpose.
Rev. Moon: Yes, Brother Jesus. Let us continue to work together to awaken humanity to the reality of God’s suffering heart and to guide them toward a life that brings comfort and joy to our Heavenly Parent. For in this, we not only fulfill our own purpose but also contribute to the ultimate healing of God’s heart and the restoration of His original dream for all His children.
The Joy of Restoration
Jesus: Brother Moon, while we have often spoken of the grief and suffering that God endures due to the Fall, there is also the immense joy that He feels whenever even one of His children returns to Him. This joy of restoration is something that I witnessed during my ministry, and it is a theme that you, too, have emphasized in your work. How do you see this joy of restoration reflected in God's heart?
Rev. Moon: Brother Jesus, the joy of restoration is indeed a profound expression of God’s heart. Despite the immense sorrow that God carries, His heart is always ready to rejoice the moment a lost child returns to Him. It is as if all the grief and pain are instantly transformed into joy when a single soul comes back to the embrace of their Heavenly Parent. This joy is not just a fleeting emotion for God; it is the fulfillment of His deepest desire, the realization of His original dream for humanity.
When Adam and Eve fell, they took with them the joy that God intended to experience with all His children. But God never gave up on that original hope. He has been working tirelessly throughout history to bring humanity back to that state of joy, a state where His love can be fully received and returned. Every step of progress in the providence of restoration, every victory over evil, brings immense joy to God’s heart because it is a step closer to the fulfillment of His original purpose.
Jesus: Yes, Brother Moon, I experienced this joy when I saw people repent and turn their hearts back to God. It is like the parable of the prodigal son I told—the father’s joy when his lost son returns is so overwhelming that it overshadows all the pain and sorrow of the past. God’s joy is not just about the return itself, but about the restoration of the relationship, the love that can now flow freely once more between Father and child.
Rev. Moon: That parable perfectly illustrates God’s heart. The joy of restoration is about more than just numbers or victories; it’s about relationships being mended, love being rekindled, and God’s original plan coming back into alignment. Each time a person repents, each time a family is restored, or each time a community begins to live according to God’s will, it is as though a piece of God’s heart is healed. And in that healing, God experiences a joy that is indescribable.
But this joy is not just for God. It is also shared with the angels, the ancestors, and all of creation. When a soul is restored, it sends ripples of joy throughout the spiritual and physical worlds. This is why the work of restoration is so vital—not only because it alleviates God’s sorrow but because it brings a greater joy than we can imagine. It is a joy that echoes through eternity.
Jesus: Indeed, and this joy is the ultimate fulfillment of God’s purpose for creation. When humanity is fully restored, and when all people live in harmony with God’s heart, that joy will be complete. This is what we work towards—restoring not just individuals, but the entire world, so that God’s joy can be made full. The Kingdom of Heaven is not merely a place; it is the state of existence where God’s joy and love are perfectly realized.
Rev. Moon: Exactly, Brother Jesus. And as we know, this joy is not something distant or unattainable. It begins in our own hearts and families. When we align our lives with God’s will, when we live for the sake of others and for the sake of God’s heart, we begin to taste that joy here and now. And as more and more people and families do this, the world itself begins to transform. This is the vision of Cheon Il Guk, the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth—a world where God’s joy is made manifest in every aspect of life.
Jesus: And it is a joy that is multiplied when it is shared. God’s joy in restoration is not something He keeps to Himself. He desires for all of His children to share in that joy, to experience the happiness that comes from living in harmony with His love. This is why the work of evangelism and outreach is so important—each soul that returns to God adds to the collective joy of Heaven.
Rev. Moon: Yes, Brother Jesus, the joy of restoration is indeed the joy of God’s family. It is a joy that transcends individual happiness and becomes a collective celebration. When we bring others into this joy, we are participating in the greatest work of all—bringing God’s dream to life. And this is why our mission is so urgent. Every day, we have the opportunity to add to God’s joy by helping another person return to His embrace.
Jesus: And every step we take in this mission brings us closer to the day when God’s joy will be complete. Brother Moon, as we continue our work, let us never lose sight of this joy. It is the driving force behind everything we do, and it is the ultimate reward we seek—not for ourselves, but for our Heavenly Parent, who has longed for this joy since the beginning of time.
Rev. Moon: Absolutely, Brother Jesus. Our lives are dedicated to this purpose, to bringing joy to God’s heart and to helping others experience the same. As we continue on this path, may we always remember that each soul we restore, each family we heal, is another piece of God’s original dream being fulfilled. And in that fulfillment, we find the true meaning of our existence.
The Importance of True Love
Jesus: Brother Moon, at the core of God’s heart lies the concept of true love. When I walked the earth, I spoke often of love—the love of God, love for one’s neighbor, and love even for one’s enemies. But the love that God desires from us and for us to experience is not just any love; it is true love. How do you define and convey the significance of true love in your teachings?
Rev. Moon: Brother Jesus, true love is indeed the cornerstone of God’s heart and the foundation of His creation. True love, as I understand and teach it, is the love that gives unconditionally, without expecting anything in return. It is a love that is sacrificial, selfless, and centered on the well-being of others. True love is the very essence of God’s character, and it is what He desires to see manifested in all His children.
True love is not just an ideal or a concept; it is a living, active force that should govern all relationships—between God and humanity, between individuals, and within families. God created the universe out of true love, and His deepest desire is to share that love with His children. However, the Fall disrupted the flow of true love. Instead of living in a world where true love was the norm, humanity began to experience a distorted, self-centered love, which has led to so much suffering and brokenness.
Jesus: Yes, Brother Moon, I taught that the greatest commandments are to love God with all your heart and to love your neighbor as yourself. But true love goes even deeper than this. It involves a complete investment of oneself for the sake of others, reflecting the nature of God’s love for us. God’s true love is perfect, enduring, and never fails, even when we fall short.
Rev. Moon: That’s precisely it, Brother Jesus. True love is the key to restoring our relationship with God and with one another. It is the force that can heal the wounds of the Fall and rebuild the broken families and communities of this world. In our daily lives, practicing true love means putting others before ourselves, seeking their happiness even at the cost of our own comfort. It means loving not just those who are easy to love but also those who may be difficult, those who have wronged us, and even those who consider us their enemies.
True love is also the force that unites. It brings people together in ways that nothing else can. When two people, whether in a marriage, a friendship, or any relationship, practice true love, they create a bond that is unbreakable. This is because true love is rooted in God’s love, which is eternal and unchanging. This is why the family, which should be the school of true love, is so central to God’s plan. In the family, we learn to love in all the ways that God intended—parent to child, husband to wife, sibling to sibling.
Jesus: And when true love is present in a family, it reflects the love of God and becomes a microcosm of the Kingdom of Heaven. This is why I often spoke of the Kingdom as being like a banquet or a wedding feast—a celebration of love, unity, and joy. But this love is not something we can generate on our own. It must come from God and be cultivated through a life of faith and practice.
Rev. Moon: Exactly, Brother Jesus. True love is a gift from God, and it is through our relationship with Him that we can learn to embody it. This is why our connection with God is so vital—it is the source of our ability to love truly. Without God, our love can easily become selfish or conditional. But with God at the center, our love becomes pure, sacrificial, and transformative.
Moreover, true love is not just a private or personal matter; it has the power to change the world. When individuals, families, and communities practice true love, they create a ripple effect that can transform societies and nations. This is the essence of the Kingdom of Heaven on earth—a world where true love reigns in every heart and every relationship. True love is the antidote to the world’s problems, whether they be wars, injustices, or broken relationships. It is the only force powerful enough to bring about true peace and lasting harmony.
Jesus: Indeed, Brother Moon. True love is the very nature of God, and it is the destiny of humanity to embody this love. This is why it is so important to teach people not just to believe in God but to live according to His love. Faith without love is empty, and religious practice without love misses the mark. When people truly understand and live out true love, they fulfill the greatest commandment and bring joy to God’s heart.
Rev. Moon: Yes, Brother Jesus. This is why our mission is so crucial—to teach, exemplify, and spread the practice of true love. It is not enough to talk about love; we must live it in every aspect of our lives. True love must be our guiding principle in all that we do. As leaders, it is our responsibility to show the way, to be living examples of true love so that others may see and follow.
Jesus: And in doing so, we fulfill the purpose of our existence and bring God’s will to fruition on earth. Brother Moon, as we continue our work, may we always keep true love at the center of our mission. It is the greatest gift we can offer to the world, and it is the surest path to building the Kingdom of Heaven that God so deeply desires.
Rev. Moon: Absolutely, Brother Jesus. True love is the beginning and the end of all things. It is the essence of God’s heart, the purpose of our lives, and the key to the salvation of humanity. Let us continue to spread this message and live by its truth, so that the world may be transformed by the power of God’s true love.
God’s Vision for the Kingdom of Heaven
Jesus: Brother Moon, when we speak of the heart of God, we cannot overlook His grand vision for the Kingdom of Heaven. This is not just a distant, ethereal realm but a reality that God has longed to establish on earth from the very beginning. During my time on earth, I proclaimed that the Kingdom of Heaven was at hand, but few understood what that truly meant. How do you see God’s vision for the Kingdom of Heaven, and how does it connect with His heart?
Rev. Moon: Brother Jesus, God’s vision for the Kingdom of Heaven is indeed the culmination of His heart’s deepest desires. It is the fulfillment of the original purpose of creation, a world where God’s love, peace, and righteousness are fully realized in every corner of the earth. The Kingdom of Heaven is not just a place but a way of life, a state of existence where every individual, family, and society lives in perfect harmony with God’s will.
God’s vision for the Kingdom of Heaven is rooted in His original design for humanity—a world where His children would live in absolute unity with Him, reflecting His divine nature in their relationships with one another and with all of creation. This Kingdom was meant to be established through the first human family, with Adam and Eve at its center. However, as we know, the Fall disrupted this plan, and humanity has been struggling ever since to return to that original state.
Jesus: Yes, Brother Moon, when I spoke of the Kingdom of Heaven, I was referring to this very reality—a restoration of the world to its original state of goodness and divine order. But I also knew that this Kingdom would not come about through force or compulsion; it must be built on the foundation of true love, lived out by those who choose to align their hearts with God’s. The Kingdom of Heaven is, at its core, the manifestation of God’s heart on earth.
Rev. Moon: Exactly, Brother Jesus. The Kingdom of Heaven is the ultimate expression of God’s heart. It is a world where true love is the guiding principle, where every relationship is governed by the love that seeks the well-being of others above oneself. In this Kingdom, there is no room for selfishness, hatred, or division. Instead, it is a world where all people live as one family under God, each person fulfilling their unique role and purpose in harmony with the greater whole.
For God, the establishment of this Kingdom is not just a matter of divine justice; it is the fulfillment of His deepest longing as a parent. Just as a parent desires to see their children living in peace, happiness, and love, so too does God desire to see His children living in the joy and harmony of the Kingdom. This is why the restoration of the family is so central to God’s plan. The family is the basic unit of the Kingdom, the place where the principles of true love are first learned and practiced.
Jesus: And when families live in true love, they become the building blocks of the Kingdom of Heaven. This is why I often spoke of the importance of loving one another and living in unity. The Kingdom is not just a future promise but a present reality that we can begin to experience and build here and now. But it requires a fundamental shift in how we live, think, and relate to one another—moving from a self-centered life to a life centered on God and His love.
Rev. Moon: That’s right, Brother Jesus. The Kingdom of Heaven begins in our hearts, in our families, and in our communities. It is something we must actively work to create through our actions, our relationships, and our dedication to living according to God’s will. This is why I have emphasized the importance of living a life of true love, of practicing the principles of the Kingdom in our daily lives. When we do this, we are not only preparing for the future Kingdom but are actively bringing it into existence in the present.
Moreover, God’s vision for the Kingdom of Heaven is not limited to any one nation, culture, or religion. It is a universal vision that encompasses all of humanity. God’s heart is for all His children to live in harmony, regardless of their differences. This is why our work must be inclusive, reaching out to all people, breaking down barriers, and fostering a spirit of unity and cooperation. The Kingdom of Heaven is a world of peace, where people of all backgrounds come together as one family under God.
Jesus: Yes, Brother Moon, the Kingdom of Heaven is meant to be a global reality. When I taught about the Kingdom, I was envisioning a world where God’s love transcends all boundaries—whether they be national, cultural, or religious. It is a world where the dignity and value of each person are recognized and honored, where justice flows like a river, and where peace is not just the absence of conflict but the presence of righteousness and true love.
Rev. Moon: And that is why our mission is so critical, Brother Jesus. We are called to be the builders of this Kingdom, to lay the foundations for a world that reflects God’s heart. This is not a task that can be accomplished by human effort alone; it requires the guidance, blessing, and empowerment of God. But it also requires our active participation—our willingness to live according to the principles of the Kingdom and to spread those principles to others.
Jesus: Indeed, Brother Moon. The Kingdom of Heaven is both a gift from God and a responsibility for us to embrace. It is the ultimate expression of God’s love, the fulfillment of His dream, and the hope of all humanity. As we work to bring this vision to life, we do so knowing that we are fulfilling the deepest desires of our Heavenly Parent and paving the way for a world of true peace and happiness.
Rev. Moon: Yes, Brother Jesus, and as we continue this work, let us remain steadfast in our commitment to building the Kingdom of Heaven, not just in word but in deed. Let us live as citizens of this Kingdom, exemplifying true love in all that we do, and inspiring others to do the same. For in this, we bring joy to God’s heart and fulfill the purpose for which we were created.
Jesus: Together, Brother Moon, we will continue to guide and inspire all people to embrace this vision of the Kingdom of Heaven. It is a vision born from the heart of God, and it is the destiny of all humanity to see it realized. Let us press on with faith, hope, and love, knowing that the Kingdom of Heaven is not just a distant dream but a living reality that we can help bring to life.
Short Bios:
Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ is the central figure of Christianity, revered as the Son of God and the Savior of humanity. Born in Bethlehem over 2,000 years ago, Jesus preached a message of love, forgiveness, and redemption. His teachings, miracles, and sacrificial death on the cross have had an unparalleled impact on the world, offering a path to spiritual salvation and a model for living a life of compassion and service. Jesus’ resurrection is seen by Christians as the ultimate victory over sin and death, and His life continues to inspire billions of people across the globe.
Rev. Sun Myung Moon
Rev. Sun Myung Moon (1920-2012) was a Korean religious leader, peace advocate, and founder of the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification. He dedicated his life to the pursuit of world peace through the realization of God’s ideal of true love and the establishment of ideal families. Rev. Moon's teachings emphasize the importance of living a life of selflessness, unity, and love, centered on the heart of God as our Heavenly Parent. His work and legacy continue to inspire millions around the world in the quest for spiritual and social harmony.
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