Patrick Bet-David Breaks Down Your Next Five Moves

Welcome, everybody.

I’m thrilled to have you here for something truly special—a deep-dive journey into the heart of strategy, performance, and power. Whether you're an entrepreneur, a leader, or someone determined to play the game of life at a higher level—this is for you.

In my book, Your Next Five Moves, I break down the mindset and framework that separates the average player from the grandmasters. Just like in chess, life rewards those who can think multiple moves ahead.

That’s why I’ve invited some of the sharpest minds on the planet—thinkers, strategists, leaders, and visionaries—to join me for a five-part conversation. Each talk centers on one of the five critical moves you must master to win:

1. Know Yourself – because clarity fuels confidence.

2. Master the Ability to Reason – because clear thinking crushes chaos.

3. Build the Right Team – because no empire is built alone.

4. Strategize to Scale – because systems, not hustle, create legacy.

5. Master Power Plays – because you don’t just want a seat at the table—you want to own the table.

These aren’t just theories. These are battle-tested insights from people who’ve built, led, negotiated, scaled, and inspired millions. You’re going to hear real wisdom—no fluff, no hype.

So grab a pen. Get focused. And most of all—ask yourself at every stage: What’s my next five moves?

Let’s get started.

(Note: This is an imaginary conversation, a creative exploration of an idea, and not a real speech or event.) 

Know Yourself

Panelists:

• Patrick Bet-David (moderator)
• Jordan Peterson
• Brené Brown
• Robin Sharma
• Sadhguru

Patrick Bet-David:
"Welcome, everyone. Today, we're diving into the foundation of strategy and success: Knowing Yourself. In my book Your Next Five Moves, I emphasize that before you can make smart moves in business or life, you need absolute clarity on who you are, what drives you, what your weaknesses are, and where you want to go. You can't build an empire on confusion.
Let’s break it down into three key areas:

1. Discovering your true motivation.
2. Identifying your strengths and weaknesses.
3. Creating a vision that guides your decisions.
   Let’s get started."

1. Discovering Your True Motivation

Patrick:
"Jordan, you’ve studied the human psyche deeply. How does someone uncover their deepest motivation?"

Jordan Peterson:
"Motivation often lies buried beneath layers of social conditioning. People chase status, money, or approval without asking—why? You need to articulate your suffering, your story, your longing. If you pay attention to what makes you resentful, envious, or inspired—that's your compass. Your true motivation isn’t what impresses others—it’s what gives meaning to your burdens."

Patrick:
"Beautifully said. Brene, how does vulnerability tie into that search for real motivation?"

Brené Brown:
"Vulnerability is the entry point to truth. Most people are terrified to admit what they really want because it might expose them to failure or judgment. But you can’t access authentic motivation if you're always performing. Real drive comes from the heart—it's messy, it's raw. You have to allow space for it to speak."

Patrick:
"Robin, you’ve mentored leaders on purpose. What patterns do you see?"

Robin Sharma:
"The most successful people are monomaniacally focused on a cause that touches their soul. They’ve moved beyond motivation for survival or vanity—they’re fueled by mission. To get there, solitude helps. Journaling, walking, meditating—these practices create room for the whispers of your deepest desires to rise to the surface."

Sadhguru:
"Motivation is misunderstood. Most are driven by what they lack. But true motivation arises when you are joyful and still choose to act. When you are no longer a slave to your compulsions, your action becomes conscious. That is the beginning of true power."

2. Identifying Strengths and Weaknesses

Patrick:
"Knowing what you’re good at—and what you’re not—is power. Jordan, how does someone assess this honestly?"

Jordan Peterson:
"Start by confronting chaos. Put yourself in situations where the outcome reflects your preparation and your nature. Are you disorganized? Do people follow you? Feedback is everywhere—use it. And beware of blind pride—many people inflate their strengths to mask their shame."

Patrick:
"Brené, how can someone face their weaknesses without falling into self-loathing?"

Brené Brown:
"Self-compassion is not self-indulgence. It's the courage to say, 'I'm not perfect, but I’m still worthy.' Shame keeps people from honest reflection. But once you allow yourself to own your flaws without judgment, they lose power over you—and you can grow."

Robin Sharma:
"Track your energy. What activities energize you? That’s your zone of genius. What drains you? That’s a clue to either delegate or develop. Elite performers don’t try to be great at everything—they double down on what they do best."

Sadhguru:
"If you identify with your thoughts or emotions, your self-perception will always be distorted. True observation comes when there is distance. In stillness, you can see clearly: your talents, your traps. But only if you stop identifying with every ripple on the surface of your mind."

3. Creating a Clear Vision for Your Life

Patrick:
"A vague life leads to vague results. Let’s talk about vision. Jordan, why is this so important?"

Jordan Peterson:
"A clear vision creates order out of chaos. It gives suffering meaning and provides structure for action. Write it out. Where do you want to be in 3, 5, 10 years? The clearer the picture, the more you align your behavior toward it."

Patrick:
"Robin, you’ve said ‘clarity breeds mastery.’ How do you help people shape a life vision?"

Robin Sharma:
"I ask them to imagine their ideal day in full detail. Where do you wake up? Who’s with you? What are you building? Then we work backwards. Vision isn’t abstract—it’s a blueprint. And when it’s clear, you can endure discomfort because you know what it’s for."

Brené Brown:
"I always say: 'Write a life that feels true, not one that looks good on Instagram.' Vision must come from values. What do you believe in? What are you unwilling to compromise? If your goals don’t honor those, they’ll become cages."

Sadhguru:
"A vision should not be a projection of fear or greed. It should arise from inner stillness. When you are free inside, the world becomes a playground. Then, your vision is not an escape—it is a conscious creation. That is true freedom."

Patrick’s Closing Thoughts:

Patrick:
"Gentlemen—and Brene—thank you for this profound conversation.
If you want to win the long game, Know Yourself.
Dig into your motivation, confront your strengths and weaknesses, and commit to a clear vision.
Every smart move in life starts with clarity on who you are and what you stand for.
Because if you don’t know yourself… how can you know your next move?"

Master the Ability to Reason

Panelists:

• Patrick Bet-David (moderator)

• Ray Dalio

• Naval Ravikant

• Charlie Munger

• Maria Popova

Patrick Bet-David:
"Welcome back. In our last conversation, we tackled self-awareness. Now, we move to the second critical pillar of success: Mastering the Ability to Reason.
This isn’t just about being smart—it’s about thinking clearly under pressure, identifying patterns, and making the right call when it counts.
We’re diving into three core angles:

1. Thinking Strategically Under Pressure

2. Developing Mental Models and Pattern Recognition

3. Managing Risk and Making Sound Decisions
   Let’s get into it."

1. Thinking Strategically Under Pressure

Patrick:
"Ray, in your book Principles, you emphasize decision-making under uncertainty. How do we stay clear-headed when the stakes are high?"

Ray Dalio:
"You need two things: a process and humility. Pressure distorts perception. But if you’ve built a reliable decision-making framework, you can follow it even in chaos. I rely on principles—not moods. Also, stay open-minded. The ego loves to react. A rational person pauses and triangulates with trusted thinkers."

Patrick:
"Naval, you've talked about clear thinking being a superpower. How can people train for that?"

Naval Ravikant:
"Clarity comes from stillness. If your mind is cluttered with noise, you’ll make reactive decisions. First, reduce mental input. Then, ask better questions. For every decision, ask: What’s the long-term downside? Most people can’t zoom out because they’re panicking. Train yourself to be calm when others are emotional."

Charlie Munger:
"Pressure is where real reasoning shows. You don’t rise to the occasion—you fall to your level of preparation. If you’ve studied human behavior, finance, and history for decades, you’ve built a latticework that stands strong when emotions run high."

Maria Popova:
"Strategic thought under pressure requires slowing down time in your mind. Artists do this by stepping into an observer role. The mind that can hold opposing ideas without panicking is the mind that finds the wisest path forward."

2. Developing Mental Models and Pattern Recognition

Patrick:
"Mental models are like tools in a strategist’s toolbox. Charlie, you popularized this concept. Why are they so powerful?"

Charlie Munger:
"Because life is complex, and no single discipline explains it all. If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. You need models from physics, psychology, economics—so you can look at problems from multiple angles. That’s how you avoid folly."

Naval Ravikant:
"Mental models are shortcuts to wisdom. Instead of starting from zero every time, you have a structure to apply. For example, 'inversion'—ask what could go wrong. Or 'compounding'—understand that most value builds slowly over time. You stack these, and your decisions get sharper."

Ray Dalio:
"In finance, models help us avoid emotional overreaction. For example, 'mean reversion' tells us that extreme highs or lows tend to revert to the average. That model alone can stop people from panicking during market drops or getting greedy in booms."

Maria Popova:
"I see models as metaphors that guide perception. The human mind craves narrative. Models like ‘antifragility’ or ‘the map is not the territory’ help people think beyond surface appearances. The more models you know, the richer your internal dialogue becomes."

3. Managing Risk and Making Sound Decisions

Patrick:
"Let’s talk about making decisions—especially risky ones. Ray, you’ve made calls that moved billions. How do you approach risk?"

Ray Dalio:
"I never bet without knowing the downside. I call it the ‘expected value’ of a decision. Even a risky move is acceptable if the upside outweighs the downside by enough. But you must protect yourself from ruin. In life and business, survival is the first goal. Then comes thriving."

Charlie Munger:
"Avoid stupidity. It’s more important than seeking brilliance. If you just eliminate the obvious disasters—debt overreach, envy, bad partners—you’ll do fine. That’s why I study human misjudgment more than success."

Naval Ravikant:
"Play long-term games with long-term people. Risk isn’t just about numbers—it’s about who you trust. Also, remember: optionality is power. Don’t back yourself into corners. Design your life so you have multiple paths to win."

Maria Popova:
"Sound decisions respect both data and intuition. Sometimes what feels right precedes what you can rationally prove. But never ignore red flags. The emotional brain has ancient intelligence—listen to its warnings, but confirm with reason."

Patrick’s Closing Thoughts:

Patrick:
"Mastering reason isn’t about being the smartest person in the room—it’s about building a mental fortress that helps you withstand pressure, process information through strong models, and make decisions that keep you in the game.
So I challenge everyone watching:

• Build your model stack.

• Reflect before reacting.

• And never stop training your ability to think clearly, especially when the heat is on.
  Because if you can think better than most people—you’ll outperform them, too."

Build the Right Team

Panelists:

• Patrick Bet-David (moderator)

• Simon Sinek

• Jocko Willink

• Angela Duckworth

• Kim Scott

Patrick Bet-David:
"Welcome back, friends. In Move 1, we talked about knowing yourself. In Move 2, we sharpened our reasoning. Now, we take that internal power and externalize it—by building the right team.
No one wins alone. Even the greatest vision fails without the right people to help build it.
Today, we’ll unpack three crucial ideas:

1. Hiring for Vision and Culture Fit

2. Developing a High-Performance Team

3. Leading with Accountability and Trust
   Let’s get started."

1. Hiring for Vision and Culture Fit

Patrick:
"Simon, you’re famous for ‘Start with Why.’ How do you hire people who align with your mission?"

Simon Sinek:
"People don’t buy what you do—they buy why you do it. The same applies to hiring. If someone doesn’t believe what you believe, no amount of talent will fix that. The best hires resonate with your why—they’re inspired by your purpose. And that’s the glue that holds culture together."

Angela Duckworth:
"Grit is another factor. I’d rather hire someone who’s passionate and persevering over someone who’s technically perfect but emotionally fragile. You can train skill. You can’t teach hunger."

Kim Scott:
"Don’t hire jerks, even if they’re stars. One toxic person can destroy team morale. The best hires are competent and kind. People who challenge directly but care personally. That’s how you build trust right from the start."

Jocko Willink:
"Hire for discipline and ownership. If someone blames others or needs micromanaging, they’re not a good fit. You want people who say, ‘I’ve got this’—and mean it."

2. Developing a High-Performance Team

Patrick:
"Okay, you’ve hired great people. Now how do you develop them into a powerhouse team?"

Jocko Willink:
"Train hard. Lead by example. Don’t ask your team to do anything you wouldn’t do yourself. High performance comes from clarity of mission, decentralized command, and relentless repetition of core principles. Leadership is a skill—it must be drilled into everyone."

Simon Sinek:
"Performance isn’t just numbers—it’s people. Leaders must create psychological safety. Teams perform best when they feel safe enough to speak up, challenge ideas, and admit mistakes. A team is only as strong as its communication."

Angela Duckworth:
"Give your team goals that stretch them—but not so far they break. Growth happens at the edge of discomfort. Create a feedback-rich culture where people feel both challenged and supported. That balance creates resilience."

Kim Scott:
"I tell leaders to care personally and challenge directly. You want to grow talent, not just extract performance. Invest in regular 1:1s, mentorship, and honest feedback. That’s how people feel seen and motivated."

3. Leading with Accountability and Trust

Patrick:
"This is the tricky part—how do you lead with both accountability and trust?"

Jocko Willink:
"Extreme Ownership. As a leader, everything is your fault. When your team sees that you own the outcome, they start to take ownership too. Accountability starts at the top. You can’t fake that."

Kim Scott:
"Accountability without trust feels like punishment. But accountability with trust feels like coaching. Leaders must earn trust first—by listening, being transparent, and modeling what they expect."

Simon Sinek:
"Trust is built in the small moments. It’s not a grand gesture. It’s asking how someone’s doing, listening deeply, and being there when it matters. When trust is high, accountability becomes a shared value, not a forced rule."

Angela Duckworth:
"Track what matters. Make expectations measurable. People love clarity. But also recognize progress. Don’t just point out what’s broken—celebrate what’s improving. That’s how you build belief."

Patrick’s Closing Thoughts:

Patrick:
"To build the right team, you need more than resumes and rules. You need vision, trust, discipline, and heart.
So ask yourself:

• Are you hiring for culture or just credentials?

• Are you developing people or draining them?

• Are you leading with ownership or hiding behind your title?
  The right team won’t just help you succeed—they’ll push you to become your best self.
  And if you can build that team… your next move just got a whole lot easier."

Strategize to Scale

Panelists:

• Patrick Bet-David (moderator)

• Reed Hastings (Netflix co-founder)

• Dan Martell (SaaS scaling expert)

• Barbara Corcoran (Real estate mogul, Shark Tank investor)

• Verne Harnish (Author of Scaling Up)

Patrick Bet-David:
"Welcome back to another powerful session. If you’ve made it through self-awareness, clear thinking, and team-building—congrats. Now comes the fun part: scaling.
Scaling means moving beyond being a solo operator. It’s when you shift from hustling to building systems.
Today, we’ll tackle three essential components of this fourth move:

1. Creating Systems That Scale Without You

2. Identifying and Protecting Your Competitive Advantage

3. Choosing the Right Strategy for Rapid, Sustainable Growth
   Let’s get to it."

1. Creating Systems That Scale Without You

Patrick:
"Reed, Netflix scaled globally with minimal bottlenecks. What’s the secret to building systems that run without you?"

Reed Hastings:
"It starts with trust and autonomy. We built a culture of freedom and responsibility. No system works if the people don’t think. So we focused on hiring adults, not children—people who could make big decisions without asking for permission. Then we made data and alignment the backbone of every process."

Dan Martell:
"SOPs—Standard Operating Procedures—aren’t sexy, but they’re your secret weapon. The question isn’t 'how can I do this task well?' but 'how can this task be done well without me?'
Every entrepreneur must graduate from operator to architect."

Barbara Corcoran:
"Automation is great, but delegation is better. I scaled my real estate business by hiring people smarter than me, giving them clear goals, and letting them shine. Letting go is the hardest part for most founders—it feels like losing control. But it’s actually how you gain it."

Verne Harnish:
"Scaling systems come from clarity: right metrics, right priorities, right rhythms. If your company doesn’t have a daily, weekly, and quarterly cadence—it’s winging it. Systems aren’t just tech—they’re habits. And great habits scale."

2. Identifying and Protecting Your Competitive Advantage

Patrick:
"Let’s talk leverage. What makes a business hard to compete with? Dan, what’s your take?"

Dan Martell:
"Your moat is in your uniqueness. In SaaS, it’s sticky features or community. For personal brands, it’s authenticity and niche dominance. The mistake people make? They copy others and become replaceable. When you lean fully into what only you can offer—you become unbeatable."

Reed Hastings:
"Speed is an advantage. We kept innovating before competitors caught up. Netflix wasn’t just about streaming—we built proprietary recommendation engines, original content, and a culture that could adapt quickly. You need to evolve before disruption happens, not after."

Barbara Corcoran:
"Stories sell. In real estate, every listing looked the same until we added a story behind each home. That personal touch became our edge. Your advantage isn’t just your product—it’s how you frame it. Make your brand unforgettable."

Verne Harnish:
"Strategic advantage comes from focus. Companies that scale well are obsessed with one thing. Look at Southwest Airlines: low cost, short haul, friendly service. That’s it. No fancy meals, no long-haul distractions. Focus = power."

3. Choosing the Right Strategy for Rapid, Sustainable Growth

Patrick:
"Okay, let’s close strong. Growth is tempting—but how do you grow smart, not just fast?"

Verne Harnish:
"Don’t outgrow your cash. Many scale-ups die from indigestion, not starvation. Growth must be profitable. You need a profit per X model—profit per customer, per employee, per location. That helps you track scalable efficiency."

Barbara Corcoran:
"Test before you leap. I grew fast by launching small experiments—new markets, new ad styles—and doubling down only when I saw proof. Scale what works. Kill what doesn’t. Quickly."

Reed Hastings:
"We focused on one market at a time. U.S. first. Then Latin America. Then Europe. Staggered expansion allows you to build muscle without overreaching. Premature scaling is how even great companies fall."

Dan Martell:
"Choose your growth channel like it’s your life partner. Don’t date five channels and wonder why none are working. Go all-in on one: inbound, outbound, referrals—whatever brings the best ROI. Obsess over it until you nail it."

Patrick’s Closing Thoughts:

Patrick:
"If you want to play the big game, you have to stop thinking like a hustler and start acting like a builder.
Ask yourself:

• What parts of my business still rely on me?

• What makes my brand impossible to copy?

• Am I growing fast… or am I growing right?
  Strategize to scale—and don’t let scale break your strategy.
  Because the real power move isn’t just getting bigger… it’s getting better while you do."

Master Power Plays

Panelists:

• Patrick Bet-David (moderator)

• Robert Greene (48 Laws of Power)

• Chris Voss (Never Split the Difference)

• Grant Cardone (The 10X Rule)

• Sun Tzu (represented by Ryan Holiday as a modern interpreter of The Art of War)

Patrick Bet-David:
"Welcome to the final move: Mastering Power Plays. This is where strategy meets timing, influence, and positioning.
Power isn’t just dominance—it’s knowing how to move pieces on the board without losing your queen.
In this conversation, we’ll break it down into three decisive skills:

1. Learning the Game of Influence and Positioning

2. Mastering Negotiation and Timing

3. Leveraging Power Without Losing Integrity
   Let’s jump in."

1. Learning the Game of Influence and Positioning

Patrick:
"Robert, you literally wrote the book on power. What’s the first thing someone needs to understand about influence?"

Robert Greene:
"Power is about perception. It’s not always what’s true—it’s what seems true. People are drawn to mystery, strength, and calm decisiveness. You must learn to control your image, manage your emotional display, and never appear desperate. Power flows to those who appear they don’t need it."

Chris Voss:
"Influence is earned through empathy. When people feel heard, they lower their defenses. That’s your leverage. You don’t dominate your way into influence—you listen your way into it. The most powerful person in the room isn’t the loudest—it’s the most emotionally intelligent."

Grant Cardone:
"Positioning is about attention. If people don’t know you, they can’t follow you, buy from you, or trust you. Power flows to visibility. So 10X your presence. Dominate the space. Be everywhere until people assume you're the authority. Then own that space."

Ryan Holiday (on behalf of Sun Tzu):
"As Sun Tzu said, 'Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.' Power is about deception, patience, and strategy. Position yourself where your opponent exposes their weakness—and strike without warning. The battlefield is perception."

2. Mastering Negotiation and Timing

Patrick:
"Chris, you’ve negotiated with terrorists. What separates amateurs from masters in high-stakes conversations?"

Chris Voss:
"Masters slow it down. Amateurs rush. The key is tactical empathy—understanding the other side's emotions and fears. Then you use calibrated questions, like: 'How can we solve this together?' Timing is everything. Don’t be afraid of silence—it’s a weapon."

Robert Greene:
"Negotiation is seduction. Reveal less than you know. Never make the first offer. Use contrast to make your offer look better. And remember: whoever needs the deal more has already lost power."

Grant Cardone:
"I say: never negotiate from need—negotiate from confidence. But don’t wait for the perfect time. Move fast. Take imperfect action. Speed can be a power play. You want others reacting while you’re acting."

Ryan Holiday:
"Sun Tzu taught that the best generals win without fighting. The best negotiation is one that never happens because your positioning made resistance impossible. Timing is about preparation—knowing when to act and when to wait."

3. Leveraging Power Without Losing Integrity

Patrick:
"Let’s talk ethics. Power can corrupt. How do you stay grounded while playing to win?"

Robert Greene:
"Power isn’t evil—it’s a tool. But unchecked ego is dangerous. The best power players are long-term thinkers. Burn a bridge today, and you may find it was the only way back tomorrow. Ruthlessness fades—respect endures."

Chris Voss:
"Integrity is a long-term tactic. The moment you lie or manipulate without cause, you plant seeds of distrust. I’ve negotiated with people who knew I was tough but fair. That reputation is a form of lasting power."

Grant Cardone:
"Look, I’m aggressive, but not dirty. I win by outworking, out-promoting, and outlasting—not by cheating. Power’s real, but reputation is forever. You want people saying: 'He’s intense—but he delivers.' That’s power with principles."

Ryan Holiday:
"The Stoics said: ‘Character is fate.’ Sun Tzu didn’t seek chaos—he brought order. Real power is doing what’s right when it’s hard. The battlefield isn’t just outside—it’s inside your mind. Win there first."

Patrick’s Closing Thoughts:

Patrick:
"Power is not about controlling others—it’s about controlling yourself, your strategy, your presence.
Ask yourself:

• Am I invisible or impossible to ignore?

• Do I react—or respond with strategy?

• Do I play the game of power with integrity, or am I burning bridges I’ll need later?
  Because when you know how to master power plays… you stop playing checkers. And start playing chess."
  “Think five moves ahead.”

Short Bios:

Patrick Bet-David

Entrepreneur, content creator, and author of Your Next Five Moves. Patrick is a master strategist who helps entrepreneurs think long-term and scale with precision and bold vision.

Jordan Peterson

Psychologist and best-selling author known for his work on personal responsibility and identity. Jordan helps people clarify their values and navigate life with depth and order.

Brené Brown

Research professor and author focused on vulnerability, courage, and leadership. Brené empowers leaders to lead with authenticity and emotional resilience.

Robin Sharma

Leadership expert and author of The 5AM Club and The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari. Robin inspires personal mastery and peak performance through daily discipline and vision.

Sadhguru

Indian yogi and spiritual teacher. Sadhguru blends ancient wisdom with modern insight to help people awaken inner clarity, stillness, and purpose.

Ray Dalio

Founder of Bridgewater Associates and author of Principles. Ray is a hedge fund titan known for using data-driven reasoning and radical transparency to guide decision-making.

Naval Ravikant

Entrepreneur and angel investor known for his insights on startups, wealth, and mental clarity. Naval advocates for leverage, clear thinking, and living with intention.

Charlie Munger

Vice Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway and one of the greatest investors and thinkers of all time. Charlie is a champion of mental models and rationality.

Maria Popova

Founder of The Marginalian (formerly Brain Pickings), she connects philosophy, science, and art to foster deep reasoning and creative reflection.

Simon Sinek

Inspirational speaker and author of Start With Why. Simon helps leaders build loyal teams by clarifying their purpose and aligning with core values.

Jocko Willink

Retired Navy SEAL commander, leadership coach, and author of Extreme Ownership. Jocko teaches discipline, accountability, and tactical leadership under pressure.

Angela Duckworth

Psychologist and author of Grit. Angela studies perseverance and passion, showing how grit outperforms talent in long-term success.

Kim Scott

Former Google and Apple exec, and author of Radical Candor. Kim helps leaders build feedback-rich cultures rooted in care and direct communication.

Reed Hastings

Co-founder and former CEO of Netflix. Reed scaled a global entertainment empire by blending culture, innovation, and strategic vision.

Dan Martell

Entrepreneur and author of Buy Back Your Time. Dan teaches high-performance founders how to scale operations and free up their time through systems.

Barbara Corcoran

Real estate mogul and Shark Tank investor. Barbara scaled a billion-dollar brand and is known for her street-smart advice on business growth.

Verne Harnish

Founder of Entrepreneurs’ Organization and author of Scaling Up. Verne is a leading expert on growth strategy and business scaling frameworks.

Robert Greene

Author of The 48 Laws of Power and Mastery. Robert decodes timeless strategies of influence, seduction, and human behavior.

Chris Voss

Former FBI hostage negotiator and author of Never Split the Difference. Chris brings real-world negotiation techniques into business and everyday influence.

Grant Cardone

Sales trainer, author of The 10X Rule, and real estate investor. Grant teaches entrepreneurs to dominate through massive action and attention.

Ryan Holiday (on behalf of Sun Tzu)

Author of The Obstacle Is the Way and modern interpreter of ancient wisdom. Ryan channels The Art of War into practical, Stoic principles for power and clarity.