Ken Honda’s 17 things to do in your 40s for a Happier, Fulfilling Life

Ken Honda:

Welcome to today's imaginary Talks! Life in your 40s is a pivotal chapter—a time to reflect, refocus, and set the stage for the decades to come. It’s not about chasing what’s left behind but embracing what lies ahead with clarity and intention. In this phase, we begin to understand what truly matters—our health, relationships, time, and purpose.

Through years of observing and guiding people on their journeys, I’ve identified 17 essential practices that can transform your 40s into a period of growth, joy, and fulfillment. These aren’t just ideas—they are actionable steps to help you live more deliberately and with greater peace of mind.

This is your opportunity to rewrite your life’s narrative. Let’s dive in and explore how to focus on what you can control, cherish your connections, and create a legacy that reflects the best version of you. Your 40s can be the most meaningful time of your life—if you choose to make it so.

1 – Distinguish Between What You Can and Cannot Do

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for joining me today to explore a vital topic: understanding what we can and cannot do. It’s something many of us grapple with, especially in our 40s, as we start reflecting on where to focus our energy. Angela, you’ve written extensively about grit and perseverance. How do we reconcile pushing through challenges with recognizing our limitations?

Angela Duckworth:
Ken, that’s an excellent question. Grit is about passion and perseverance for long-term goals, but it doesn’t mean ignoring reality. One key aspect of grit is adaptability. If we keep trying to master something that doesn’t align with our strengths or values, we’re not being gritty; we’re being stubborn. The art is in finding pursuits that align with both our passion and our ability to grow.

Ken Honda:
Ryan, your work often emphasizes accepting what’s beyond our control. How does that balance with Angela’s message of perseverance?

Ryan Holiday:
Great point, Ken. Stoicism teaches us to focus on what we can control—our thoughts, actions, and decisions—and let go of what we cannot, like external outcomes. For me, distinguishing between what you can and can’t do is liberating, not limiting. It’s about conserving energy for what truly matters, rather than being consumed by things outside our influence.

Ken Honda:
Mark, your book challenges people to focus on fewer things that genuinely matter. How does one decide what’s worth pursuing and what to let go of?

Mark Manson:
It starts with brutal honesty, Ken. People often waste time on pursuits that don’t resonate with their core values because of societal pressure or fear of failure. Ask yourself: “Does this truly matter to me? Will it improve my life or someone else’s?” If the answer is no, then it’s time to let go. Accepting our limits isn’t weakness; it’s wisdom.

Ken Honda:
This is such a fascinating discussion. Angela, how do we handle the emotional struggle of realizing we can’t do something we once thought we could?

Angela Duckworth:
It’s difficult, but it’s also part of growth. Self-compassion is crucial here. Instead of viewing it as failure, see it as redirection. Life is full of seasons, and sometimes letting go of one dream allows another, more fulfilling one, to emerge.

Ken Honda:
Ryan, in your view, how can people apply Stoicism when they feel frustrated about their limitations?

Ryan Holiday:
It’s about perspective. Limitations are opportunities to redefine your path. Marcus Aurelius wrote, “What stands in the way becomes the way.” If you can’t go through a door, build a window. Focus on what’s within your power to change.

Ken Honda:
Mark, let’s end with you. How can humor help us in distinguishing what we can and can’t do?

Mark Manson:
Humor is essential, Ken. When you can laugh at yourself and your failures, they lose their power over you. Realizing your limitations can actually be freeing—it means you no longer have to pretend to be perfect. Instead, you can focus on being authentically you.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, everyone. This has been an enlightening conversation. It’s clear that by combining grit, stoicism, and self-awareness, we can navigate life’s challenges with wisdom and grace. Let’s all embrace who we are and focus on what truly matters.

2 – Write Your Personal History

Ken Honda:
Welcome, everyone. Today, we’re discussing the art of writing your personal history. Reflecting on our life story can be a transformative experience. Anne, your book Bird by Bird has inspired so many writers. What advice would you give to someone beginning the process of writing their personal history?

Anne Lamott:
Thank you, Ken. I always tell people to start small—take it bird by bird, or moment by moment. Don’t get overwhelmed by the big picture. Write about the things that shaped you: a childhood memory, a pivotal decision, or even a seemingly mundane moment that stayed with you. The truth often reveals itself in the details.

Ken Honda:
Mitch, your work, like Tuesdays with Morrie, beautifully captures life lessons. How do we approach our personal history in a way that emphasizes meaning rather than just events?

Mitch Albom:
Great question, Ken. I believe our personal histories are more than just timelines; they’re about the people who shaped us and the values we hold. Reflect on the relationships in your life—family, mentors, friends. Ask yourself: what have these connections taught me? Your story becomes richer when it’s not just about what you did, but why you did it and who inspired you along the way.

Ken Honda:
Ishmael, your memoir A Long Way Gone is a powerful account of resilience and reflection. How did writing your personal history help you come to terms with your past?

Ishmael Beah:
Writing was both painful and healing, Ken. Revisiting my past forced me to confront things I wanted to forget, but it also allowed me to reclaim my narrative. When you write your story, you take ownership of it. It’s not just about recounting what happened but making sense of how it shaped you. For anyone writing their history, I’d say: be honest, be brave, and don’t rush the process.

Ken Honda:
Anne, some people feel their lives are too “ordinary” to write about. How do you respond to that?

Anne Lamott:
Oh, Ken, there’s no such thing as an ordinary life. What feels ordinary to you could be extraordinary to someone else. The beauty is in the authenticity. Everyone has a story worth telling because everyone’s lived experience is unique.

Ken Honda:
Mitch, how do you balance the highs and lows when writing about your life? Should we focus more on the joyful moments or the struggles?

Mitch Albom:
Both are essential, Ken. Life is a mix of joy and pain, and that’s what makes it meaningful. The lows give depth to the highs. Don’t shy away from struggles—they’re often where the greatest lessons lie. But also, don’t forget to celebrate the good times. Balance is key.

Ken Honda:
Ishmael, for those who find it difficult to confront their past, what advice would you offer?

Ishmael Beah:
Start with what feels safe. You don’t have to dive into the hardest memories right away. Begin with moments that bring you joy or strength, and gradually build the courage to face the more difficult parts. Writing can be like peeling an onion—layer by layer, you get closer to the core.

Ken Honda:
Let’s end with this: if someone writes their personal history, what do you think they gain from it?

Anne Lamott:
Perspective. When you write your story, you begin to see patterns, connections, and meaning you might have missed while living it.

Mitch Albom:
I agree. Writing your history can be a reminder of how far you’ve come and how much you’ve grown. It’s a gift to yourself and, potentially, to others.

Ishmael Beah:
And I’d add: peace. When you’ve written your story, you make peace with it. You may not change the past, but you can change how you carry it forward.

Ken Honda:
Beautifully said. Thank you, Anne, Mitch, and Ishmael, for sharing your wisdom. Writing your personal history is not just about preserving memories—it’s about understanding ourselves and leaving a legacy for those who come after us.

3 – Seek Guidance from Mentors in Their 60s and 70s

Ken Honda:
Welcome, everyone. Today, we’re exploring the wisdom of seeking guidance from mentors who have lived ahead of us. There’s so much we can learn from the experiences of those in their 60s and 70s. President Carter, you’ve been a lifelong advocate for service and learning. Why do you think it’s so important to seek mentors in later stages of life?

Jimmy Carter:
Thank you, Ken. As we grow older, our perspective deepens. We’ve seen trends come and go, faced triumphs and failures, and learned what truly matters. Younger generations can benefit from this wealth of experience, avoiding mistakes we’ve made and embracing values that stand the test of time—like kindness, humility, and service to others.

Ken Honda:
Beautifully said. Maya, your works have inspired countless individuals across generations. How do you think older mentors contribute to shaping the lives of younger people?

Maya Angelou:
Ken, I believe mentors provide something invaluable: perspective and love. A good mentor sees not only where you are but where you could be. They hold a mirror to your potential, reminding you of your worth even when you can’t see it yourself. I always say, "When you learn, teach. When you get, give." That’s the essence of mentorship.

Ken Honda:
That’s so inspiring, Maya. Peter, as a thought leader in management and leadership, how do you view the role of mentorship for younger generations?

Peter Drucker:
Mentorship is not just about advice; it’s about helping people ask the right questions. A good mentor doesn’t hand you answers—they guide you to find them yourself. The value of an older mentor is their ability to provide context. They can say, "I’ve seen something like this before," and help you navigate complexities with clarity and confidence.

Ken Honda:
Jimmy, how do you recommend people approach older mentors to ask for guidance? Some might feel intimidated.

Jimmy Carter:
Humility and sincerity go a long way. Most of us who have lived long lives are eager to share what we’ve learned. Approach with respect and genuine curiosity. Ask about their stories, their challenges, and what gave them strength. You’ll find that many are happy to pass on their knowledge.

Ken Honda:
Maya, how do mentors balance guiding without imposing their own perspectives too strongly?

Maya Angelou:
A wise mentor doesn’t shape someone into their own image. Instead, they nurture the mentee’s individuality. It’s like tending a garden—you don’t try to turn a rose into a daisy. You help it bloom as it’s meant to. A good mentor listens more than they speak and offers encouragement over judgment.

Ken Honda:
Peter, how can younger people give back to their mentors and ensure the relationship is mutually enriching?

Peter Drucker:
By showing gratitude and applying the lessons you’ve learned. A mentor feels fulfilled when they see their guidance make a difference. Share your progress and your successes—it’s a form of acknowledgment. And remember, mentorship is a two-way street. Younger generations bring fresh perspectives that can also inspire the mentor.

Ken Honda:
That’s a powerful reminder. Maya, what’s one piece of advice you’d give to those seeking a mentor?

Maya Angelou:
Be open, be brave, and be ready to grow. Mentorship is a gift, but it’s also a responsibility. When someone invests in you, honor that investment by becoming the best version of yourself.

Ken Honda:
And Jimmy, what advice would you give to those in their 60s and 70s who may feel hesitant to mentor?

Jimmy Carter:
Never underestimate the impact your experience can have. Every life has value, and your lessons—big or small—could change someone’s path for the better. Don’t wait for someone to ask. Offer your guidance freely.

Ken Honda:
Peter, let’s close with you. How can we create a culture where mentorship is celebrated and encouraged?

Peter Drucker:
It starts with valuing wisdom and fostering connections. Encourage workplaces, communities, and families to facilitate mentorship. Highlight the stories of successful mentor-mentee relationships, and make it clear that everyone—regardless of age—has something to contribute.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Jimmy, Maya, and Peter, for your incredible insights. Mentorship is truly a bridge between generations, helping us carry wisdom forward while inspiring fresh growth. Let’s all take steps to seek and offer guidance in our lives.

4 – Face Regrets Now

Ken Honda:
Thank you for joining me today. We’re discussing a topic that many people avoid but ultimately must confront: regret. How can we face our regrets now rather than at the end of life? Daniel, your book The Power of Regret reframes how we see regret. How do you think regret can be a positive force?

Daniel Pink:
Thanks, Ken. Regret often gets a bad reputation, but it’s one of our most valuable emotions. It’s a teacher. When we analyze our regrets—whether they’re about missed opportunities, relationships, or bad decisions—we can gain clarity on what really matters. Instead of being paralyzed by regret, we can use it as a guide to make better choices moving forward.

Ken Honda:
Regina, your writings often focus on gratitude and resilience. How do you reconcile regret with gratitude?

Regina Brett:
Great question, Ken. I see regret as part of the journey. We’re all human, and we make mistakes. Gratitude allows us to focus on what we still have and what we’ve learned. Even in regret, there’s a hidden gift—an opportunity to grow, heal, or make amends. Gratitude doesn’t erase regret, but it helps us see it in a kinder light.

Ken Honda:
Elizabeth, you’ve worked extensively with people at the end of life. What do people regret most, and how can we address these regrets while we still have time?

Elizabeth Kübler-Ross:
Ken, the most common regrets revolve around love—either not expressing it enough or not spending enough time with loved ones. People also regret not pursuing their dreams or living authentically. The key is to reflect on your life now, not when it’s too late. Ask yourself: What would I regret if my life ended tomorrow? Then take action, whether it’s repairing relationships, chasing a dream, or simply saying “I love you.”

Ken Honda:
Daniel, how do we start confronting regrets without being overwhelmed by them?

Daniel Pink:
Start small. Write down your regrets—just getting them out of your head can be liberating. Then categorize them: regrets of action (things you did but wish you hadn’t) and regrets of inaction (things you didn’t do but wish you had). Focus on the inaction regrets—they’re often more painful because they represent lost opportunities. Identify one you can address now and take a small step.

Ken Honda:
Regina, how do we balance learning from regret while not letting it weigh us down emotionally?

Regina Brett:
Be compassionate with yourself. Regret is a sign that you care about living a meaningful life. Instead of beating yourself up, think of regret as a nudge to realign with your values. Remember, you’re not defined by your regrets—they’re just chapters in your story, not the whole book.

Ken Honda:
Elizabeth, what role does forgiveness—of ourselves and others—play in dealing with regret?

Elizabeth Kübler-Ross:
Forgiveness is everything. Regret often comes from holding onto pain or resentment. Forgiveness isn’t about condoning what happened; it’s about freeing yourself from its grip. Start by forgiving yourself—you did the best you could with what you knew at the time. Then, if you can, extend forgiveness to others. It’s one of the most powerful ways to heal regret.

Ken Honda:
Daniel, do you think it’s ever too late to address regret?

Daniel Pink:
Not at all, Ken. Regret can be addressed at any stage of life. Even if you can’t change the past, you can change your relationship with it. For example, if you regret a lost relationship, you might not be able to reconnect, but you can honor it by improving how you show up in your current relationships.

Ken Honda:
Regina, how can we identify regrets that we might not even be fully aware of?

Regina Brett:
Pay attention to the little "what ifs" and "if onlys" that cross your mind. Those are often signs of deeper regrets. Journaling can help you uncover them. Ask yourself: What opportunities have I avoided? Who haven’t I reached out to? What dreams have I put on hold? Awareness is the first step to healing.

Ken Honda:
Elizabeth, let’s end with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone afraid of confronting their regrets?

Elizabeth Kübler-Ross:
Don’t be afraid to face your regrets—they hold the keys to your growth. Regret is not your enemy; denial is. By embracing your regrets, you open the door to peace, understanding, and even joy. Remember, it’s never too late to create a meaningful ending to your story.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Elizabeth, Regina, and Daniel. This has been a profound conversation. Regret doesn’t have to be something we fear; it can be a compass guiding us toward a more fulfilling life. Let’s all take a moment to reflect, forgive, and take action today.

5 – Treat Health and Time as Assets

Ken Honda:
Thank you for joining me today to discuss an essential topic: treating health and time as assets. These are often overlooked but form the foundation of a meaningful life. Arianna, your work with Thrive Global has helped people prioritize well-being. Why is it so important to view health and time as assets?

Arianna Huffington:
Thank you, Ken. Health and time are the two most valuable resources we have, yet we often take them for granted until we lose them. Without health, we can’t fully enjoy life or pursue our goals. And without time, everything else becomes irrelevant. By treating both as assets, we create a life centered on balance, purpose, and joy.

Ken Honda:
Dan, your research on Blue Zones highlights communities where people live the longest and healthiest lives. What can we learn from these areas about valuing health and time?

Dan Buettner:
Great question, Ken. In Blue Zones, people naturally prioritize health and time through their lifestyles. They move regularly, eat plant-based diets, maintain strong social connections, and live with purpose. They also take a slower approach to life, which allows them to savor time rather than rush through it. These habits show us that treating health and time as assets doesn’t require wealth—just intentionality.

Ken Honda:
Matthew, your book Why We Sleep sheds light on how critical sleep is to our health. Why do you think so many people neglect this vital aspect of well-being?

Matthew Walker:
Ken, I think it’s partly cultural. Many societies equate busyness with success, so people sacrifice sleep to "get more done." But this is a false economy. Sleep is the foundation of physical and mental health. It improves memory, boosts immunity, and even extends lifespan. When we don’t prioritize sleep, we’re essentially borrowing time from our future health—and the interest is steep.

Ken Honda:
Arianna, you’ve spoken about the dangers of burnout. How can we shift our mindset to prevent it?

Arianna Huffington:
Burnout happens when we treat health and time as infinite resources. The first step is redefining success—not as overwork, but as well-being and meaningful contribution. Practical steps like setting boundaries, taking breaks, and practicing gratitude can help. We also need to let go of the idea that rest is unproductive. Rest is where our creativity and energy are replenished.

Ken Honda:
Dan, what small changes can people make today to emulate the health habits of Blue Zones?

Dan Buettner:
Start with movement. You don’t need to hit the gym—just build natural movement into your day, like walking or gardening. Next, focus on your diet: eat more whole, plant-based foods and less processed food. Finally, prioritize connections. Spend time with family or friends, and make an effort to engage with your community. These small changes can have a big impact over time.

Ken Honda:
Matthew, how can we make better use of our time by improving our sleep habits?

Matthew Walker:
Sleep isn’t just about quantity—it’s about quality. Simple changes like maintaining a consistent sleep schedule, creating a cool and dark sleeping environment, and reducing screen time before bed can vastly improve sleep quality. When you sleep well, you’re more focused, productive, and present during your waking hours.

Ken Honda:
Arianna, how can people invest in their health and time when they feel overwhelmed by daily demands?

Arianna Huffington:
Start small. Even five minutes of mindfulness, a short walk, or an afternoon nap can make a difference. Shift your mindset from "I don’t have time" to "How can I make time?" The truth is, when we prioritize health and time, everything else in life improves. It’s not selfish—it’s essential.

Ken Honda:
Dan, how do you see the connection between purpose and longevity?

Dan Buettner:
Purpose is everything, Ken. In Blue Zones, people have a clear sense of purpose, or as the Okinawans call it, "Ikigai." Knowing why you wake up in the morning gives structure to your time and motivation to care for your health. Purposeful living isn’t just fulfilling—it’s life-extending.

Ken Honda:
Matthew, let’s end with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone who wants to start valuing their health and time today?

Matthew Walker:
Protect your sleep as if it were your most valuable asset—because it is. Sleep is the ultimate investment in your health and time. It doesn’t cost a thing, but the returns are immeasurable.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Arianna, Dan, and Matthew, for your incredible insights. Prioritizing health and time isn’t just about adding years to our lives—it’s about adding life to our years. Let’s all start today by making even small changes that honor these precious assets.

6 – Define Your Relationship with Money

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for joining me. Money is a powerful force in our lives, but its relationship with each of us is deeply personal. Let’s explore how we can define and improve our relationship with money. Carl, as a financial planner and author, how would you help someone understand their current relationship with money?

Carl Richards:
Thanks, Ken. I believe our relationship with money starts with self-awareness. Many people don’t take the time to think about how money makes them feel—whether it’s anxiety, guilt, or even joy. Start by asking yourself, "What role does money play in my life?" Then examine your spending habits. Often, they reveal what we truly value, whether we’re aware of it or not.

Ken Honda:
Vicki, your book Your Money or Your Life revolutionized how we think about money. What’s your advice for creating a healthier relationship with it?

Vicki Robin:
Great question, Ken. The key is to see money as a tool, not as a goal. Money is simply life energy—time and effort converted into currency. When you understand that, you become more mindful of how you earn, spend, and save. Ask yourself: "Is this spending aligned with my values?" When you focus on enoughness, rather than endless accumulation, money becomes a means to freedom, not a source of stress.

Ken Honda:
Morgan, your book The Psychology of Money dives into the emotions behind financial decisions. Why do so many people struggle to define a healthy relationship with money?

Morgan Housel:
Thanks, Ken. One big reason is that money is deeply emotional. It’s tied to our upbringing, our insecurities, and even our identity. But here’s the thing: there’s no one-size-fits-all approach to money. A healthy relationship is about finding what works for you, not what society says you should do. It’s about aligning your financial habits with your personal goals and values, rather than trying to keep up with others.

Ken Honda:
Carl, how can people take the first step toward financial clarity, especially if they feel overwhelmed by their financial situation?

Carl Richards:
Start with simplicity, Ken. You don’t need a perfect financial plan—you need a simple one. Write down your income, expenses, and goals. Then ask yourself: "What’s one thing I can do today to improve my financial health?" Small, consistent actions—like saving a little more or cutting unnecessary expenses—can create momentum and reduce overwhelm.

Ken Honda:
Vicki, many people feel trapped by debt or financial pressure. How can they shift their mindset to feel more empowered?

Vicki Robin:
The first step is to stop seeing debt as a moral failure. It’s a circumstance, not an identity. Focus on what you can control: make a realistic plan to pay it off, even if it’s slowly. At the same time, start practicing gratitude for what you do have. Shifting your mindset from scarcity to sufficiency changes how you interact with money.

Ken Honda:
Morgan, how do you suggest people balance the need to save for the future with the desire to enjoy the present?

Morgan Housel:
That’s a great question, Ken, and it’s a tricky balance. The key is moderation. Save enough to feel secure about your future, but don’t sacrifice all joy today. One way to approach this is to think about what truly brings you happiness. If it’s experiences, prioritize spending there. If it’s peace of mind, prioritize saving. Ultimately, money should support your well-being, not dictate it.

Ken Honda:
Carl, let’s talk about the emotional side of money. How can we address feelings of guilt or fear around finances?

Carl Richards:
The first step is to acknowledge those feelings instead of ignoring them. Guilt and fear often come from unrealistic expectations or comparing ourselves to others. Try to reframe those emotions by focusing on progress, not perfection. Celebrate small wins, like paying off a small debt or saving your first $1,000. These steps help build confidence and reduce negative emotions.

Ken Honda:
Vicki, how can people redefine wealth in a way that goes beyond just money?

Vicki Robin:
True wealth is about having enough—not just financially, but emotionally and spiritually. It’s about relationships, health, and time. Money is just one piece of the puzzle. When you focus on living a life that feels rich in meaning and connection, you realize you don’t need as much as you thought.

Ken Honda:
Morgan, let’s wrap up with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone looking to redefine their relationship with money?

Morgan Housel:
Start by defining your own version of success. Forget what others think you should do with your money. Ask yourself: "What does financial freedom look like to me?" Then build habits and goals around that vision. When your financial life reflects your personal values, you’ll feel a lot more at peace.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Carl, Vicki, and Morgan, for this insightful conversation. Defining our relationship with money isn’t just about financial planning—it’s about understanding ourselves, our values, and how we want to live. Let’s all take a moment to reflect on how we can make money work for us, rather than the other way around.

7 – Have the Courage to Say No

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for joining me. Today, we’re tackling a topic that’s deceptively simple yet profoundly impactful: having the courage to say no. Sarah, your book The Life-Changing Magic of Not Giving a F*** reframes the idea of saying no. Why is it so hard for people to set boundaries?

Sarah Knight:
Thanks, Ken. It’s hard because most of us are conditioned to prioritize others’ feelings over our own well-being. We worry about being seen as rude or selfish. But the truth is, every time you say yes to something you don’t want to do, you’re saying no to something you actually care about. It’s about reclaiming your time and energy so you can focus on what truly matters.

Ken Honda:
Greg, your book Essentialism emphasizes the disciplined pursuit of less. How does saying no play into that philosophy?

Greg McKeown:
It’s central, Ken. Saying no is about protecting your focus. When you say yes to everything, you dilute your energy and end up being mediocre at a lot of things rather than excellent at a few. Essentialism is about choosing what’s essential and eliminating the rest. Saying no is a skill—it takes practice, but it’s transformative when mastered.

Ken Honda:
Danielle, your work often explores living authentically. How does saying no help us align with our true selves?

Danielle LaPorte:
Saying no is an act of self-respect, Ken. It’s about honoring your needs, your time, and your intuition. When you say no to things that don’t feel right, you’re creating space for what does. It’s not just about setting boundaries with others—it’s about setting boundaries with yourself, so you don’t overcommit or betray your own priorities.

Ken Honda:
Sarah, how can someone overcome the guilt that often comes with saying no?

Sarah Knight:
Start by reframing the guilt. Saying no doesn’t make you a bad person—it makes you an honest one. Think about it this way: when you say no to something you don’t want, you’re actually saying yes to your mental health, your goals, or your loved ones. That’s not selfish; it’s smart.

Ken Honda:
Greg, what strategies can people use to say no gracefully, especially in professional or personal settings where they feel pressure to say yes?

Greg McKeown:
Great question, Ken. Start by expressing gratitude: "Thank you for thinking of me." Then politely decline: "I’m honored, but I need to focus on other priorities right now." You don’t need to overexplain or apologize. Clarity and kindness go a long way.

Ken Honda:
Danielle, how do we deal with the fear of disappointing others when we say no?

Danielle LaPorte:
Disappointing others is inevitable, Ken. But what’s more important: avoiding their disappointment or staying true to yourself? When you say no with kindness and authenticity, most people will respect your honesty. And if they don’t, that’s on them—not you.

Ken Honda:
Sarah, what’s a practical first step for someone who struggles to say no?

Sarah Knight:
Start small. Practice saying no to something low-stakes, like declining an invitation to a casual event. Once you see that the world doesn’t end when you say no, you’ll build confidence to tackle bigger challenges. Remember: no is a complete sentence.

Ken Honda:
Greg, how can we identify what’s truly worth saying yes to?

Greg McKeown:
Ask yourself three questions: Does this align with my values? Will this move me closer to my goals? Am I excited about this? If the answer is no to any of these, it’s probably not worth your time or energy.

Ken Honda:
Danielle, let’s wrap up with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone who wants to start saying no more often?

Danielle LaPorte:
Trust your gut, Ken. If something feels off, honor that feeling. Saying no is an act of empowerment and self-love. The more you practice it, the more aligned and peaceful your life will become.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Sarah, Greg, and Danielle, for sharing your insights. Saying no isn’t about rejection—it’s about choosing what’s right for you. Let’s all take the courage to protect our time, energy, and well-being by embracing the power of no.

8 – Consider What Legacy You Can Leave to the World

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for joining me. Today’s conversation is about legacy: what we leave behind for the world and future generations. Simon, you’ve inspired many with your idea of starting with "Why." How does understanding our "Why" help us think about the legacy we leave?

Simon Sinek:
Thanks, Ken. Legacy begins with clarity of purpose. When you understand your "Why," your actions align with your values, and that creates a ripple effect. Legacy isn’t just about what we achieve—it’s about the impact we have on others. If we focus on contributing to something greater than ourselves, our legacy naturally takes care of itself.

Ken Honda:
David, your work as a naturalist has left a profound impact on how we see our planet. What drives you to focus on legacy, and what advice do you have for others who want to leave the world better than they found it?

David Attenborough:
Thank you, Ken. For me, it’s about responsibility. We are stewards of this planet, and our actions today determine the future for generations to come. My advice is to find what you’re passionate about and commit to it fully. Even small actions—reducing waste, conserving energy, educating others—can contribute to a larger, lasting impact. Legacy isn’t built overnight; it’s built through consistent effort.

Ken Honda:
Jacinda, as a former leader, your legacy has been shaped by your compassionate approach to governance. How do you see legacy as a part of leadership?

Jacinda Ardern:
Ken, legacy in leadership is about how you make people feel and the values you instill. It’s not about titles or accomplishments—it’s about the trust you build and the positive changes you leave behind. Leaders have a unique opportunity to shape culture, whether it’s in a country, a community, or an organization. A legacy of kindness, inclusivity, and courage can inspire others long after you’re gone.

Ken Honda:
Simon, how can individuals who don’t see themselves as leaders still contribute to a meaningful legacy?

Simon Sinek:
Everyone can be a leader, Ken, because leadership isn’t about a position—it’s about behavior. Small acts of kindness, mentorship, and standing up for what’s right all contribute to legacy. You don’t need to change the world; just change one person’s life for the better. That’s how legacy starts.

Ken Honda:
David, many people feel overwhelmed by the magnitude of global challenges. How can they stay motivated to create a positive legacy?

David Attenborough:
It’s easy to feel overwhelmed, Ken, but remember that every action matters. Focus on what you can do, not what you can’t. Surround yourself with others who share your passion—collective efforts can achieve incredible things. And stay hopeful. Change is possible, and hope is what keeps us moving forward.

Ken Honda:
Jacinda, how do you balance personal and public legacy? How can people ensure they leave a meaningful legacy in both spheres?

Jacinda Ardern:
Balance comes from authenticity. If your personal values align with your public actions, the two reinforce each other. In your personal life, focus on the relationships and memories you create with loved ones. In the public sphere, think about how your actions contribute to the greater good. A meaningful legacy combines both—the personal and the collective.

Ken Honda:
Simon, how can someone start defining their legacy today?

Simon Sinek:
Start with reflection. Ask yourself: "What do I want to be remembered for?" Then align your daily actions with that vision. Legacy isn’t about grand gestures; it’s about consistency. Every interaction, every decision contributes to the story you leave behind.

Ken Honda:
David, what’s the most important lesson you’ve learned about legacy through your work?

David Attenborough:
Legacy isn’t about us—it’s about others. The most meaningful legacies come from serving something larger than yourself. Whether it’s protecting the environment, mentoring young people, or fostering community, the impact you leave on others is what truly endures.

Ken Honda:
Jacinda, let’s end with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone who wants to leave a positive legacy?

Jacinda Ardern:
Be kind, Ken. Kindness is underestimated but profoundly powerful. It shapes relationships, builds trust, and inspires change. If you want to leave a legacy, start with kindness—it’s the foundation for everything else.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Simon, David, and Jacinda, for your wisdom. Legacy isn’t about what we take—it’s about what we give. Let’s all reflect on how we can contribute to a world where our actions leave a lasting, positive impact.

9 – Create Your Own Sanctuary

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for joining me. Today, we’re discussing the importance of creating your own sanctuary—a space where you can reconnect with yourself and find peace in a busy world. Robin, your book The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari emphasizes finding inner peace. What does a sanctuary mean to you, and why is it so important?

Robin Sharma:
Thank you, Ken. A sanctuary isn’t just a physical space—it’s a state of mind. It’s where you can retreat to reflect, recharge, and renew. In today’s fast-paced world, we often forget to slow down, and that’s when we lose touch with our true selves. A sanctuary allows you to connect with your purpose and creativity, helping you live a more intentional life.

Ken Honda:
Pico, your writings often explore the concept of stillness and the art of slowing down. How do you see the role of sanctuary in modern life?

Pico Iyer:
Thank you, Ken. A sanctuary is more essential now than ever. We live in a world of constant noise and distraction, and without a sanctuary—whether it’s a quiet room, a park, or even a moment of stillness—we risk losing ourselves in the chaos. A sanctuary doesn’t have to be grand. It can simply be a place where you can pause and listen to your inner voice.

Ken Honda:
Meng, your work in mindfulness and emotional intelligence has helped many people find inner peace. How can mindfulness help us create a sanctuary within ourselves?

Chade-Meng Tan:
Great question, Ken. Mindfulness is the ultimate sanctuary because it allows you to find peace anywhere, even in the midst of chaos. When you practice mindfulness, you create a space within yourself where you can observe your thoughts and emotions without judgment. This inner sanctuary is always available to you, no matter where you are.

Ken Honda:
Robin, for someone who feels they don’t have the time or space to create a sanctuary, what advice would you give?

Robin Sharma:
Start small, Ken. A sanctuary doesn’t require a lot of time or a dedicated space. It could be a 10-minute morning ritual where you journal, meditate, or simply sit quietly. The key is consistency. Over time, these small moments of peace can have a profound impact on your overall well-being.

Ken Honda:
Pico, how can travel or stepping into new environments serve as a form of sanctuary?

Pico Iyer:
Travel can be a powerful form of sanctuary because it takes you out of your routine and helps you see the world—and yourself—more clearly. But the sanctuary isn’t the destination; it’s the perspective you gain. Even a simple walk in a new neighborhood can refresh your mind and reconnect you with the present moment.

Ken Honda:
Meng, what are some practical mindfulness techniques people can use to create an inner sanctuary?

Chade-Meng Tan:
One of my favorites is mindful breathing. Simply focus on your breath for a few moments—notice the inhale, the exhale, and the pauses in between. This practice grounds you in the present and creates a sense of calm. Another technique is loving-kindness meditation, where you send goodwill to yourself and others. These practices help you build an inner sanctuary of peace and compassion.

Ken Honda:
Robin, how does creating a sanctuary help with productivity and creativity?

Robin Sharma:
A sanctuary isn’t just about rest—it’s also where your best ideas are born. When you step away from the noise and distractions, you create space for deep thinking and creativity. That’s why so many successful people prioritize quiet time—it’s where breakthroughs happen.

Ken Honda:
Pico, how can people maintain their sanctuary in a world that constantly demands their attention?

Pico Iyer:
It’s about boundaries, Ken. You have to protect your sanctuary like you would protect something sacred. Turn off your phone, say no to unnecessary commitments, and carve out time for stillness. It’s not always easy, but the rewards—a calmer mind, a clearer heart—are worth it.

Ken Honda:
Meng, let’s end with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone looking to create their own sanctuary?

Chade-Meng Tan:
Start by being kind to yourself, Ken. Your sanctuary is a place of self-compassion, not perfection. Whether it’s an external space or an inner practice, approach it with gentleness and patience. Over time, it will become a source of strength and joy in your life.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Robin, Pico, and Meng, for sharing your wisdom. A sanctuary is more than just a retreat—it’s a foundation for a life of peace, purpose, and presence. Let’s all take time to create a space, both inside and out, where we can truly be ourselves.

10 – Value the Last 10 Years of Connection with Family

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for joining me today. Our conversation centers on the importance of cherishing the last years of connection with family. Fred, your life’s work focused on nurturing relationships. What does it mean to truly value the time we have with family?

Fred Rogers:
Thank you, Ken. To value time with family is to be fully present with them. It’s about listening—not just hearing but truly understanding—and creating moments of shared joy and love. The smallest acts of kindness, like a hug or a kind word, can leave lasting impressions. Family connections are a gift, and we honor them by giving them our full attention.

Ken Honda:
Joanna, your work emphasizes interconnectedness and gratitude. How can we use these principles to deepen family relationships?

Joanna Macy:
Ken, families are microcosms of the greater web of life. When we recognize how deeply connected we are to each other, we approach our relationships with greater compassion and gratitude. Even in challenging times, we can find moments to appreciate the bond we share. Practices like expressing thanks or simply spending quiet time together help us stay rooted in what truly matters.

Ken Honda:
Bruce, your book The Secrets of Happy Families offers practical advice on strengthening family ties. How can families prioritize connection, especially in today’s busy world?

Bruce Feiler:
Great question, Ken. One key is intentionality. Families thrive when they make connection a priority, whether that’s through regular meals, rituals, or family meetings. It doesn’t have to be complicated—what matters is consistency. Open communication is also vital. Create a safe space where everyone feels heard and valued. It’s these small, deliberate actions that build stronger bonds over time.

Ken Honda:
Fred, many people regret not spending enough time with family. How can we ensure we don’t let other priorities overshadow these connections?

Fred Rogers:
Ken, it’s about understanding what’s truly important. Life is busy, but family is irreplaceable. Schedule time for your loved ones, just as you would for any important commitment. And remember, it’s not about how much time you spend—it’s about the quality of that time. A heartfelt conversation or shared laughter can mean more than hours of distracted presence.

Ken Honda:
Joanna, how can we navigate family dynamics when relationships are strained or complicated?

Joanna Macy:
That’s a common challenge, Ken. Start by acknowledging the shared humanity in each family member. None of us are perfect, and we all carry pain. Approach strained relationships with curiosity and openness rather than judgment. Sometimes, simply listening can begin to heal old wounds. And remember, forgiveness—both given and received—can be transformative.

Ken Honda:
Bruce, what are some meaningful rituals or traditions families can create to strengthen their bonds?

Bruce Feiler:
Rituals can be as simple or elaborate as you like. Weekly family dinners, holiday traditions, or even a shared hobby can bring people together. One idea is to create a "family story night" where you share memories or lessons learned. Another is to celebrate small wins together—acknowledging each other’s accomplishments builds mutual respect and joy.

Ken Honda:
Fred, how can we teach children to value family connections?

Fred Rogers:
Children learn from what we do, not just what we say, Ken. Show them the importance of family by making time for them, listening to them, and including them in family traditions. When children feel loved and valued, they naturally grow to appreciate the bonds of family.

Ken Honda:
Joanna, how can we balance the time we spend with our nuclear family and extended family?

Joanna Macy:
It’s about finding harmony, Ken. Recognize that different relationships serve different purposes. Your nuclear family is your immediate support system, while your extended family connects you to a larger sense of belonging. Allocate time mindfully, and when possible, bring everyone together—it creates a sense of continuity and shared history.

Ken Honda:
Bruce, let’s wrap up with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone who wants to make the most of their time with family?

Bruce Feiler:
Don’t wait, Ken. Time with family is finite, so start building memories today. Focus on being present and creating moments of connection. It doesn’t have to be perfect—what matters is that it’s genuine. Invest in your relationships now, and the rewards will last a lifetime.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Fred, Joanna, and Bruce, for your thoughtful insights. Family is one of life’s greatest treasures, and the time we spend with loved ones is truly priceless. Let’s all take a moment to reflect on how we can prioritize and cherish these connections today.

11 – Reflect on Your Partnerships

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for joining me. Partnerships, whether romantic, professional, or personal, are at the core of a fulfilling life. Today, we’ll reflect on how to nurture and strengthen these connections. Esther, your work has transformed the way people view relationships. What’s the first step to truly understanding our partnerships?

Esther Perel:
Thank you, Ken. The first step is self-awareness. Often, we enter partnerships expecting the other person to fulfill our needs without understanding our own patterns and expectations. Take time to reflect on your emotional habits and how they shape your interactions. When you approach a partnership with self-awareness, you create a foundation for trust and growth.

Ken Honda:
Harville, your Imago Relationship Therapy emphasizes connection and communication. How can couples foster deeper understanding and empathy?

Harville Hendrix:
Great question, Ken. One of the most powerful tools is intentional dialogue—where one partner speaks, the other listens, and then mirrors back what they heard. This creates a safe space for understanding without judgment. Empathy grows when we truly listen to our partner’s experiences and validate their feelings, even if we don’t fully agree.

Ken Honda:
Ken Blanchard, your expertise in leadership often overlaps with relationships. How can principles of leadership enhance our partnerships?

Ken Blanchard:
Thanks, Ken. Leadership in partnerships means serving each other and fostering mutual respect. In any relationship, be it romantic or professional, ask yourself: "How can I support this person’s growth?" When you lead with care and collaboration, you build trust and strengthen the partnership. Remember, leadership isn’t about control—it’s about empowering each other.

Ken Honda:
Esther, how can we balance independence and interdependence in a partnership?

Esther Perel:
That’s the dance of relationships, Ken. A healthy partnership thrives when both individuals maintain their independence while also nurturing the connection. Think of it as two pillars supporting a bridge—you need both strength and flexibility. Celebrate your individuality, but also create rituals and moments of closeness that sustain the partnership.

Ken Honda:
Harville, what advice would you give to couples facing recurring conflicts?

Harville Hendrix:
Conflicts often arise from unmet needs or unspoken expectations. Instead of focusing on the disagreement itself, ask, "What’s the deeper need behind this?" Often, it’s about feeling loved, heard, or valued. Work together to address these underlying needs rather than staying stuck in the surface-level issue.

Ken Honda:
Ken Blanchard, how can we apply lessons from professional partnerships to improve personal ones?

Ken Blanchard:
One key lesson is open communication. In professional settings, we emphasize clarity and feedback. The same applies to personal relationships. Share your thoughts, goals, and concerns regularly. Another lesson is celebrating wins—acknowledge and appreciate the positive moments in your partnership. It builds trust and reinforces the connection.

Ken Honda:
Esther, how do cultural differences impact partnerships, and how can we navigate them?

Esther Perel:
Cultural differences can enrich a partnership but also create misunderstandings. The key is curiosity—approach your partner’s cultural background with openness and a desire to learn. Recognize that differences are not obstacles; they’re opportunities to expand your perspective and deepen your connection.

Ken Honda:
Harville, how can people rekindle connection if they feel their partnership has grown distant?

Harville Hendrix:
Start by creating intentional moments of connection. Schedule time for uninterrupted conversations, shared activities, or simply being present with each other. Also, revisit the things that brought you together in the first place—memories, shared dreams, or values. Rekindling connection takes effort, but it’s worth it.

Ken Honda:
Ken Blanchard, what’s one habit or mindset that can strengthen any partnership?

Ken Blanchard:
Practice gratitude, Ken. When you regularly acknowledge what your partner brings to the relationship, it creates a positive cycle of appreciation. Gratitude shifts your focus from what’s lacking to what’s abundant, fostering a stronger bond.

Ken Honda:
Esther, let’s wrap up with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone seeking to deepen their partnerships?

Esther Perel:
Embrace curiosity and vulnerability, Ken. Ask open-ended questions, share your fears and dreams, and be willing to see your partner in new ways. Deepening a partnership is about staying engaged, even as both of you evolve over time.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Esther, Harville, and Ken, for your valuable insights. Partnerships are about mutual growth, understanding, and shared purpose. Let’s all take the time to nurture these connections and bring more love and respect into our relationships.

12 – Take on New Challenges

Ken Honda:
Welcome, everyone. Today, we’re talking about embracing new challenges, a key to personal growth and fulfillment. Richard, you’ve built an empire by taking risks and exploring new frontiers. What drives you to continually take on new challenges?

Richard Branson:
Thank you, Ken. For me, it’s about curiosity and the desire to push boundaries. Life is more exciting when you’re exploring the unknown. Challenges keep you sharp and help you grow as a person. They also give you the opportunity to inspire others to take their own leaps of faith.

Ken Honda:
Tim, your work often focuses on optimizing performance and breaking down big goals into manageable steps. What’s your approach to taking on something entirely new?

Tim Ferriss:
Great question, Ken. I always start with what I call the "minimum effective dose"—the smallest step I can take to get started and learn quickly. Fear often comes from uncertainty, so breaking challenges into small, actionable pieces reduces that fear. It’s also important to experiment without overcommitting. That way, you can explore new paths without feeling overwhelmed.

Ken Honda:
Lynne, your open-water swimming feats have taken you to extreme conditions. How do you prepare mentally and physically for such daunting challenges?

Lynne Cox:
Thanks, Ken. Preparation is everything. Mentally, I visualize the journey and focus on the goal, not the obstacles. I remind myself why I’m doing it—whether it’s to push my limits or inspire others. Physically, it’s about building strength and resilience through consistent practice. But the most important thing is to believe in yourself and stay adaptable when things don’t go as planned.

Ken Honda:
Richard, fear often holds people back from trying something new. How do you overcome fear when facing big challenges?

Richard Branson:
I believe in reframing fear as excitement. Most of the time, fear is just the unknown speaking to us. When I feel scared, I remind myself that failure is just a step toward success. Surrounding yourself with supportive people also makes a huge difference—they can encourage you to keep going when fear creeps in.

Ken Honda:
Tim, how do you decide which challenges are worth pursuing and which aren’t?

Tim Ferriss:
I use a framework I call "fear-setting," Ken. I write down the worst-case scenario if I take on the challenge, and then I write out ways to recover from that scenario. If the downside is manageable and the potential upside is life-changing, it’s usually worth pursuing. Clarity helps you distinguish between challenges that align with your goals and distractions that don’t.

Ken Honda:
Lynne, what advice would you give to someone who feels they lack the confidence to take on a new challenge?

Lynne Cox:
Start small and build up your confidence gradually. Every step forward, no matter how small, is progress. Celebrate those wins—they add up over time. Also, focus on your strengths and remember that challenges are opportunities to learn. Confidence grows from trying, not from waiting until you feel ready.

Ken Honda:
Richard, how do you maintain your motivation when challenges become difficult or setbacks arise?

Richard Branson:
I remind myself of the bigger picture, Ken. Every challenge is part of a larger journey. Setbacks are inevitable, but they’re also where you learn the most. I also make sure to keep things fun and surround myself with positive people who lift me up. Motivation comes from loving what you do and staying focused on the impact you want to make.

Ken Honda:
Tim, how can people maintain balance when taking on challenges while juggling other responsibilities?

Tim Ferriss:
Balance comes from prioritization. You can’t do everything, so focus on what matters most. Use tools like time-blocking to allocate dedicated time for challenges, and don’t be afraid to say no to less important commitments. It’s also crucial to take care of your physical and mental health—that’s what sustains you in the long run.

Ken Honda:
Lynne, let’s wrap up with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone who’s ready to take on a new challenge but doesn’t know where to start?

Lynne Cox:
Listen to your intuition, Ken. Start with something that excites you or aligns with your values. Take the first small step, no matter how simple it is. And don’t worry about having it all figured out—you’ll learn and grow as you go. Challenges are journeys, and the best part is discovering what you’re capable of along the way.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Richard, Tim, and Lynne, for your inspiring insights. Taking on new challenges is about courage, preparation, and growth. Let’s all find something that excites us and take that first step today.

13 – Count the Blessings in Your Current Life

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for being here. Gratitude is a powerful force, and today we’ll explore how to count the blessings in our lives. Mel, your 5 Second Rule has inspired people to take action. How does gratitude help people shift their mindset and take control of their lives?

Mel Robbins:
Thanks, Ken. Gratitude is transformative because it rewires your brain to focus on what’s good rather than what’s missing. When you start your day with gratitude, you set a positive tone for everything that follows. It’s not just about feeling good—it’s about seeing opportunities and solutions more clearly. Gratitude fuels confidence and resilience, which help you take action.

Ken Honda:
Jay, as someone who transitioned from being a monk to a modern motivational speaker, how do you practice gratitude in daily life?

Jay Shetty:
Thank you, Ken. Gratitude is a daily ritual for me. I take time every morning to reflect on three things I’m grateful for, big or small. It could be the people in my life, a lesson I learned, or simply the fact that I woke up to a new day. Gratitude shifts your perspective—it teaches you to find joy in the ordinary and appreciate the present moment.

Ken Honda:
Nick, your story of overcoming incredible challenges is deeply inspiring. How has gratitude played a role in your journey?

Nick Vujicic:
Gratitude has been my anchor, Ken. When I focus on what I have instead of what I lack, I find strength and purpose. Even in my toughest moments, I’ve learned to be thankful for the small things—like the love of my family or the chance to inspire others. Gratitude doesn’t erase challenges, but it gives you the perspective and courage to face them.

Ken Honda:
Mel, for people who feel stuck or overwhelmed, how can they start incorporating gratitude into their lives?

Mel Robbins:
Start small and make it simple, Ken. Every night, write down one thing you’re grateful for—just one. Over time, this practice grows into a habit that shifts your mindset. Also, say it out loud. When you express gratitude to others, it strengthens your relationships and reminds you of the good around you.

Ken Honda:
Jay, how does gratitude connect to mindfulness and being present?

Jay Shetty:
Gratitude and mindfulness go hand in hand, Ken. Mindfulness teaches you to slow down and notice the beauty in the present moment, while gratitude helps you savor it. When you’re mindful, you’re less likely to take things for granted. Gratitude then amplifies that awareness, creating a deeper sense of peace and fulfillment.

Ken Honda:
Nick, what advice would you give to someone who struggles to feel grateful, especially during difficult times?

Nick Vujicic:
Start with the basics, Ken. Are you breathing? Do you have shelter? Do you have someone who cares about you? Even in hard times, there’s always something to be grateful for. Focus on what you can control and find joy in small victories. Gratitude grows when you practice it, even when it feels hard.

Ken Honda:
Mel, how can gratitude help us overcome negative thinking and self-doubt?

Mel Robbins:
Gratitude interrupts negative thinking patterns, Ken. When you focus on what’s good, you crowd out thoughts of fear and self-doubt. It’s a simple but powerful way to reframe your mindset. Over time, practicing gratitude trains your brain to look for the positive, which builds confidence and optimism.

Ken Honda:
Jay, how can people teach gratitude to their children or younger generations?

Jay Shetty:
Model it, Ken. Children learn gratitude by watching how we express it. Make it a family ritual to share something you’re grateful for at dinner or before bedtime. Encourage them to say thank you and acknowledge kindness in others. Gratitude is a skill, and the earlier we teach it, the more it becomes a natural part of their lives.

Ken Honda:
Nick, let’s wrap up with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone who wants to cultivate more gratitude in their life?

Nick Vujicic:
Start each day by saying, “Thank you.” It’s that simple. Thank God, thank life, thank yourself. Gratitude is a choice, and when you make it daily, it transforms your heart and mind. It helps you see that no matter how hard life gets, there’s always a reason to smile.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Mel, Jay, and Nick, for sharing your insights. Gratitude isn’t just a practice—it’s a way of life that brings us closer to joy, peace, and purpose. Let’s all take a moment today to count our blessings and share our gratitude with those around us.

14 – Achieve Achievable Dreams

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for being here. Achieving dreams, no matter how big or small, starts with defining what’s possible and taking that first step. Barbara, your book Wishcraft has inspired so many people to pursue their dreams. What’s the first step to turning a dream into reality?

Barbara Sher:
Thank you, Ken. The first step is clarity. Many people have vague dreams, but they don’t know what they actually want. Start by asking yourself: "What excites me? What have I always wanted to do?" Once you have a clear vision, break it down into small, actionable steps. Dreams feel overwhelming only when we try to tackle them all at once.

Ken Honda:
Brandon, you built Humans of New York from scratch and turned it into a global phenomenon. What motivated you to pursue your dream, and how did you stay focused?

Brandon Stanton:
Thanks, Ken. Honestly, I started with a simple idea: to tell stories. I didn’t have a grand vision at first—I just focused on taking photos every day and connecting with people. What kept me focused was the joy of the process. When you love what you’re doing, it’s easier to stay consistent. Success comes from showing up every day, even when the results aren’t immediate.

Ken Honda:
Seth, your work often emphasizes thinking outside the box. How can people reframe their approach to dreams that feel out of reach?

Seth Godin:
Great question, Ken. Many people feel stuck because they’re aiming for perfection or waiting for permission. Instead, embrace imperfection and start small. Ask yourself: "What’s the tiniest step I can take today?" The path to big dreams often begins with tiny, consistent actions. And remember, you don’t need anyone’s permission to pursue what matters to you—just start.

Ken Honda:
Barbara, what advice would you give to someone who feels like it’s too late to pursue their dreams?

Barbara Sher:
It’s never too late, Ken. Dreams don’t expire. Start by focusing on what you can do right now, even if it’s just 10 minutes a day. Surround yourself with people who encourage you and believe in your potential. The key is to take action, no matter how small. Momentum builds quickly once you start moving.

Ken Honda:
Brandon, how did you handle setbacks or self-doubt while building your dream project?

Brandon Stanton:
Setbacks are inevitable, Ken. What kept me going was remembering why I started. I focused on the people whose stories I was sharing and the impact those stories could have. Self-doubt is normal, but it doesn’t have to stop you. Instead, let it remind you that you care deeply about what you’re doing—and use that as fuel to keep going.

Ken Honda:
Seth, how can people differentiate between dreams worth pursuing and distractions?

Seth Godin:
That’s a great question, Ken. Ask yourself: "Is this something I truly care about, or am I doing it because others expect me to?" Dreams worth pursuing are the ones that align with your values and energize you, even when the work is hard. If a dream feels like a chore or doesn’t excite you, it might be a distraction.

Ken Honda:
Barbara, how can people overcome fear when taking the first step toward their dreams?

Barbara Sher:
Fear is natural, Ken. The trick is not to fight it but to work with it. Start small—take a step so tiny that fear doesn’t have a chance to stop you. Build up your confidence gradually. And remember, you don’t have to do it alone. Find a support system that encourages you and helps you navigate the fear.

Ken Honda:
Brandon, what role does persistence play in achieving dreams, and how can people stay persistent?

Brandon Stanton:
Persistence is everything, Ken. Most success comes from simply outlasting the challenges. To stay persistent, focus on the process rather than the outcome. Find joy in the small wins and the progress you’re making. And when things get tough, revisit your "why"—the reason you started in the first place.

Ken Honda:
Seth, let’s end with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone who’s ready to start pursuing their dream today?

Seth Godin:
Start now and embrace imperfection, Ken. Dreams don’t happen because you plan them perfectly; they happen because you take action. Be willing to experiment, fail, and learn. The only failure is not starting. Every step you take brings you closer to where you want to be.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Barbara, Brandon, and Seth, for your inspiring insights. Achieving dreams is about clarity, action, and persistence. Let’s all take one small step today toward something that excites us and brings us joy.

15 – Never Give Up

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for being here to discuss a critical mindset for success: never giving up. Thomas, you famously said, “I have not failed. I’ve just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.” How did persistence shape your journey as an inventor?

Thomas Edison:
Thank you, Ken. Persistence was everything. I believed that every setback was simply a step toward success. When I was working on the light bulb, I didn’t see failure as an endpoint—it was a lesson, a way to refine my approach. The key is to stay focused on the goal and keep moving forward, no matter how many obstacles you face.

Ken Honda:
Soichiro, you built the Honda brand from scratch despite facing numerous challenges. How did you maintain your determination through difficulties?

Soichiro Honda:
Thank you, Ken. For me, challenges were opportunities to grow stronger. When my factory was bombed during the war, I didn’t see it as the end—I saw it as a chance to rebuild better. I’ve always believed that failure is not the opposite of success; it’s part of the process. Passion and curiosity kept me going. When you love what you do, giving up isn’t an option.

Ken Honda:
J.K., your story of overcoming rejection to create Harry Potter is legendary. How did you stay motivated after being turned down by so many publishers?

J.K. Rowling:
Thank you, Ken. It wasn’t easy. Rejection stings, but I reminded myself of why I started. I believed in the story I was telling, and that belief kept me going. It’s important to separate rejection from self-worth—just because someone says no doesn’t mean you’re not good enough. Staying true to my vision helped me persevere.

Ken Honda:
Thomas, how can people reframe failure so that it becomes a motivator rather than a discouragement?

Thomas Edison:
Failure is simply feedback, Ken. It’s a teacher that shows you what doesn’t work. Instead of fearing it, embrace it as part of the journey. The only real failure is giving up. When you keep going, every “failure” becomes a step closer to success.

Ken Honda:
Soichiro, what role does resilience play in staying committed to your goals?

Soichiro Honda:
Resilience is everything, Ken. Life is full of unexpected challenges, but resilience allows you to adapt and keep moving forward. For me, it was about focusing on solutions rather than problems. Even when things seemed impossible, I trusted that hard work and determination would pay off.

Ken Honda:
J.K., many people give up because they fear rejection or criticism. How did you overcome that fear?

J.K. Rowling:
It’s natural to fear rejection, Ken, but you can’t let it define you. I reminded myself that every successful person has faced criticism. The key is to focus on your purpose and keep going, even when it’s hard. Rejection isn’t the end—it’s just part of the story.

Ken Honda:
Thomas, how do you know when to keep pushing and when it’s time to pivot or try a different approach?

Thomas Edison:
It’s about balance, Ken. Persistence doesn’t mean stubbornly repeating the same mistakes—it means being willing to adapt and innovate. Pay attention to the results and ask yourself: “What can I do differently?” Persistence with flexibility is the secret to success.

Ken Honda:
Soichiro, how can passion fuel persistence, especially during tough times?

Soichiro Honda:
Passion is the fire that keeps you going, Ken. When you truly love what you do, challenges become part of the adventure. For me, the joy of creating something new outweighed the difficulties. Passion gives you the strength to face setbacks and the curiosity to find new solutions.

Ken Honda:
J.K., what advice would you give to someone who feels like giving up on their dream?

J.K. Rowling:
Remember why you started, Ken. Hold onto your vision and take it one step at a time. You don’t have to achieve everything at once—just focus on the next small step. And never underestimate the power of perseverance. The difference between success and failure is often just refusing to give up.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Thomas, Soichiro, and J.K., for your incredible insights. Persistence is not just about holding on—it’s about adapting, learning, and staying true to your purpose. Let’s all take inspiration from your journeys and keep moving forward, no matter what challenges we face.

16 – Choose Fun Over What’s Right

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for joining me. Life is often about striking a balance between what’s practical and what brings joy. Today, we’ll explore the idea of choosing fun over what’s "right." Neil, you’ve brought a sense of wonder and fun to science. How do you see the role of fun in learning and living?

Neil deGrasse Tyson:
Thank you, Ken. Fun is essential—it’s the gateway to curiosity and creativity. When something is enjoyable, we’re more likely to engage with it deeply. In science, for example, I’ve found that sparking curiosity through fun leads people to ask bigger questions. Life isn’t just about ticking boxes; it’s about exploration and discovery, which are inherently joyful.

Ken Honda:
Phil, your show Somebody Feed Phil is filled with joy and humor. How do you incorporate fun into your work and life?

Phil Rosenthal:
Thanks, Ken. For me, fun is about connecting with people and being present. Whether it’s through food, laughter, or travel, I try to find joy in the little things. Life can be challenging, but when you approach it with curiosity and a sense of humor, everything becomes a bit brighter. Fun isn’t a distraction—it’s what makes life worth living.

Ken Honda:
Elizabeth, your book Eat, Pray, Love is a testament to choosing joy and adventure. How do you balance following your heart with the responsibilities of everyday life?

Elizabeth Gilbert:
Thank you, Ken. Balance is key, but I’ve learned that joy isn’t selfish—it’s essential. When we prioritize fun and fulfillment, we’re better equipped to handle life’s challenges. It’s not about ignoring responsibilities; it’s about making space for what lights you up. Fun isn’t frivolous—it’s a way to honor your spirit and keep your energy alive.

Ken Honda:
Neil, how do you respond to people who feel they must always "do the right thing" and see fun as a distraction?

Neil deGrasse Tyson:
I’d say, redefine what “right” means. Life is about more than meeting expectations or following rules. Fun and joy are not the opposite of responsibility—they’re complementary. If you’re not enjoying the journey, what’s the point of the destination? Fun fuels creativity, and creativity often leads to better outcomes in both work and life.

Ken Honda:
Phil, how can people bring more fun into their daily routines, even if they feel too busy?

Phil Rosenthal:
Start small, Ken. Find moments in your day to laugh, connect, or try something new. It could be as simple as calling a friend, watching a funny video, or cooking a meal you’ve never tried before. Fun doesn’t have to be elaborate—it just has to make you smile. And the busier you are, the more important it is to make time for joy.

Ken Honda:
Elizabeth, how do you handle guilt or judgment from others when you choose joy or fun over what’s expected?

Elizabeth Gilbert:
That’s a tough one, Ken, but I remind myself that living authentically means prioritizing what matters to me. People will always have opinions, but your life is yours to live. When you choose joy, you inspire others to do the same. Fun isn’t a rejection of responsibility—it’s a celebration of being alive.

Ken Honda:
Neil, how can fun make us more resilient in the face of challenges?

Neil deGrasse Tyson:
Fun gives us perspective, Ken. It reminds us not to take life too seriously and helps us bounce back when things go wrong. Laughter and playfulness release tension and open our minds to new solutions. Resilience isn’t just about toughness—it’s about staying light enough to keep moving forward.

Ken Honda:
Phil, what’s one fun activity you recommend for people to reconnect with joy?

Phil Rosenthal:
Eat with someone you love, Ken. Food has a magical way of bringing people together and sparking joy. Try a new dish, visit a restaurant you’ve never been to, or just share a simple meal at home. It’s fun, it’s nourishing, and it creates memories that last.

Ken Honda:
Elizabeth, let’s end with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone who wants to choose fun more often in their life?

Elizabeth Gilbert:
Follow your curiosity, Ken. Fun doesn’t have to be grand—it can be as simple as taking a walk, doodling, or dancing in your living room. Give yourself permission to explore what delights you, even if it seems silly. Joy is a compass, and it will always lead you back to yourself.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Neil, Phil, and Elizabeth, for your wonderful insights. Choosing fun isn’t about avoiding life’s responsibilities—it’s about embracing the moments that make life meaningful. Let’s all find ways to bring a little more joy into our days and inspire others to do the same.

17 – Discover the Meaning of Life

Ken Honda:
Thank you all for joining me. Today, we’re exploring one of the biggest questions of all: discovering the meaning of life. Alan, your work has profoundly influenced how people think about existence. Where do you believe we should begin in our search for meaning?

Alan Watts:
Thank you, Ken. The search for meaning often begins with the wrong question: "What is the purpose of life?" Life isn’t a problem to solve; it’s a dance to enjoy. Meaning isn’t something you find—it’s something you experience in the here and now. When you let go of the need for a grand answer, life’s beauty and mystery reveal themselves naturally.

Ken Honda:
Victor, your book Man’s Search for Meaning is a cornerstone of existential thought. How do you believe people can find meaning, especially in times of suffering?

Victor Frankl:
Thank you, Ken. Meaning is found in how we respond to life’s challenges. Even in suffering, we can choose our attitude and find purpose. It may be through creating something, connecting with others, or enduring hardships with dignity. Meaning isn’t about what happens to us—it’s about how we use our freedom to respond.

Ken Honda:
Cheryl, your memoir Wild is a testament to finding oneself through challenge and exploration. How did your journey help you discover meaning?

Cheryl Strayed:
Thank you, Ken. For me, meaning came from embracing the messiness of life. My journey on the Pacific Crest Trail wasn’t about escaping my problems—it was about facing them head-on. I found meaning in the act of walking, in the connections I made with others, and in learning to forgive myself. Sometimes, meaning isn’t something you discover—it’s something you create.

Ken Honda:
Alan, how can mindfulness or being present help people connect with life’s meaning?

Alan Watts:
Mindfulness anchors us in the present moment, Ken, where life is actually happening. When you stop worrying about the past or the future, you realize that life’s meaning is in the small, fleeting moments—a smile, a breath, a bird’s song. Meaning isn’t "out there"; it’s right here, waiting for you to notice it.

Ken Honda:
Victor, how can people cultivate resilience to continue seeking meaning when life feels overwhelming?

Victor Frankl:
Resilience comes from recognizing that life is not about avoiding pain but about transcending it. Find a "why" that motivates you—a reason to endure. It could be a loved one, a creative pursuit, or a higher cause. When you have a strong "why," you can bear almost any "how."

Ken Honda:
Cheryl, what advice would you give to someone who feels lost and disconnected from their sense of purpose?

Cheryl Strayed:
Start small, Ken. Meaning doesn’t have to be grand or permanent. Look for it in everyday actions—helping a friend, trying something new, or simply taking a walk. Trust that even when you feel lost, you’re still on the path. Meaning often finds you when you least expect it.

Ken Honda:
Alan, how do you see the role of play and joy in discovering life’s meaning?

Alan Watts:
Play and joy are fundamental, Ken. Life is a playful dance, not a solemn march. When you approach life with a sense of wonder and curiosity, you align with its true nature. Joy isn’t the reward for finding meaning—it’s the way to it.

Ken Honda:
Victor, what role do relationships play in helping us discover meaning?

Victor Frankl:
Relationships are central, Ken. We find meaning through connection—whether it’s with loved ones, a community, or even strangers. Love is the highest form of meaning because it transcends the self. When we care for others, we affirm that life has value, no matter the circumstances.

Ken Honda:
Cheryl, let’s wrap up with you. What’s one piece of advice you’d give to someone searching for the meaning of life?

Cheryl Strayed:
Be patient with yourself, Ken. Life’s meaning isn’t something you figure out once and for all—it evolves as you do. Allow yourself to explore, make mistakes, and feel deeply. The meaning of life is in living it fully, with all its joys and sorrows.

Ken Honda:
Thank you, Alan, Victor, and Cheryl, for your profound insights. Discovering the meaning of life isn’t about finding the perfect answer—it’s about engaging with the questions, embracing the journey, and living with intention. Let’s all take a moment to reflect on what gives our lives meaning today.

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