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Dr. Steven Greer:
"Welcome, everyone. Today, we embark on an extraordinary journey into some of the most profound, controversial, and urgent questions facing humanity. The reality of UFOs, extraterrestrial contact, and hidden knowledge is no longer just the subject of science fiction—it is a matter of global importance.
We have gathered some of the most respected minds in UFO research, government disclosure, ancient history, and experiencer testimony to discuss what the world has been kept from knowing.
Over the course of these conversations, we will uncover:
- The ethics of human-initiated extraterrestrial contact—are we truly ready?
- The possibility of underground UFO bases—are non-human intelligences already living among us?
- The economic impact of disclosure—who benefits from secrecy, and what happens when UFO technology is revealed?
- The rising number of UFO sightings worldwide—what is changing in our skies, and why now?
- The hybrid human theory—have extraterrestrials influenced our genetics, and if so, what does that mean for our future?
These are not just abstract questions—they define the future of humanity, our technological evolution, and our place in the cosmos.
Today, we will separate fact from speculation and explore what it means to finally acknowledge the truth about UFOs and extraterrestrial contact.
Let's begin.
(Note: This is an imaginary conversation, a creative exploration of an idea, and not a real speech or event.)

The Ethics of Human-Extraterrestrial Contact: Should We Initiate Contact?

Moderator: Dr. Steven Greer
Panelists: Paul Hellyer, David Icke, Tom Delonge, Edgar Cayce
Dr. Steven Greer:
"Welcome, everyone. Today, we explore a crucial question—should humanity actively reach out to extraterrestrial civilizations, or should we wait for them to make the first move? With the rise of public UFO awareness and increasing sightings, some argue that we should initiate contact, while others warn that doing so might be dangerous.
To start, I’d like to ask Paul Hellyer—as a former Canadian Minister of Defense, you’ve spoken publicly about extraterrestrials already being present on Earth. What’s your perspective?"
Paul Hellyer:
"Thank you, Dr. Greer. Based on military intelligence and insider testimonies, I can say with confidence that several extraterrestrial species are already observing and interacting with Earth. Some have tried to help us advance, but they fear our violent tendencies and secrecy.
From my understanding, some ET groups have warned governments that humans are not spiritually mature enough for open contact. They do not want to interfere with our development, but they also won’t allow us to recklessly expand into space while still engaging in warfare.
So, my concern is—if we make contact, are we approaching it as peaceful explorers or as a reckless species still controlled by military-industrial interests? If we do not change our ways, we risk making enemies before we even truly understand who is out there."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That’s an important point—should humanity first raise its consciousness before making contact? Some extraterrestrial groups may be waiting for us to evolve beyond greed, war, and secrecy.
Now, David Icke, you’ve written about extraterrestrial influences behind global power structures. Do you believe making contact is even our choice, or has contact already happened in ways we don’t understand?"
David Icke:
"We are already in contact—but not in the way people imagine. The real question isn’t 'Should we initiate contact?' but rather, 'Who is really in control of contact?'
My research shows that some extraterrestrial forces—what I call interdimensional beings or the Archons—have been manipulating human history for thousands of years. They operate through elite bloodlines, secret societies, and government programs.
I believe the global UFO secrecy is not about protecting the public—it’s about maintaining power. The elites already have advanced technology, possibly given to them by non-human entities, but they refuse to share it because keeping humanity weak, divided, and technologically dependent serves their agenda.
If we initiate open contact, the question is: Who are we really contacting? Benevolent beings, or entities that have already infiltrated human leadership?"
Dr. Steven Greer:
"I appreciate your perspective, David. Your concerns align with the idea that extraterrestrial contact has already happened at secretive levels. However, I believe that if civilians engage in direct, peaceful contact through CE-5 protocols, we can bypass government control and form our own relationships with extraterrestrials.
This brings me to Tom Delonge. Your work with government insiders has revealed a gradual disclosure plan. Do you think initiating contact is dangerous, or is it something humanity should pursue?"
Tom Delonge:
"The problem isn’t whether we should make contact—it’s that we don’t have enough information to make that decision responsibly.
Through my work with To The Stars Academy, I’ve learned that governments have been studying extraterrestrial life for decades, but they don’t fully understand the implications yet. Some groups within military and intelligence agencies believe certain UFOs are dangerous and that we should be cautious.
Imagine if early humans had tried to contact advanced civilizations without knowing their intentions—it could lead to disaster. What if some extraterrestrial groups don’t see us as equals, but as a lower species to be studied or controlled?
That’s why I support gradual disclosure. We need more public knowledge, scientific research, and a unified planetary strategy before we go reaching out to the cosmos recklessly."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"Tom, your concerns about lack of preparation are valid. But the truth is, extraterrestrials are already here. Why wait for the government to give us permission when we can make peaceful contact ourselves?
This brings me to Edgar Cayce. Decades ago, you channeled information about higher-dimensional beings and the role of spiritual evolution in human destiny. Do you think humanity should reach out to extraterrestrial civilizations, or are there cosmic laws preventing premature contact?"
Edgar Cayce:
"From my readings, I understand that extraterrestrial and interdimensional beings operate under divine laws that prevent direct interference in human affairs unless humanity is spiritually prepared.
The universe is filled with different levels of consciousness. Some civilizations are far beyond us, operating on higher planes of existence where thought and energy are more powerful than physical technology. These beings do not see us as ready yet.
However, I have also seen visions of a future where humanity does achieve open contact—but it happens when we have elevated our collective vibration. When humans move beyond war, greed, and fear, then true contact will be made, not through force, but through alignment with universal consciousness."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"This ties into the idea that consciousness is the key to contact. If we approach extraterrestrials with fear or aggression, we will invite negative experiences. If we approach them with peace and expanded awareness, we will invite positive relationships.
Before we wrap up, I’d like to ask each of you: What is the most important thing humanity should do before initiating extraterrestrial contact?
Final Thoughts from Each Panelist
- Paul Hellyer: "We must disarm and unite as a planet. No civilization will take us seriously if we continue acting like warring tribes."
- David Icke: "We need to expose the hidden forces that have already made contact in secret. The real battle is not just in the skies—it’s in our own governments."
- Tom Delonge: "We need a scientific and strategic approach to contact, not reckless outreach. There are many unknowns, and we must proceed carefully."
- Edgar Cayce: "Humanity must raise its vibration and act with love, wisdom, and harmony. Only then will we be ready for true contact."
Dr. Steven Greer (Closing Statement):
"Today's discussion has shown that extraterrestrial contact is not just a scientific issue, but an ethical and spiritual one. We must approach the stars with wisdom, not fear.
If we allow governments and corporations to control contact, we risk repeating the mistakes of history—where the few control the many. But if we take responsibility as individuals and as a species, we can create a future where humanity is an equal partner in the galactic community.
Thank you all for this powerful discussion."
Key Takeaways from This Discussion:
- Extraterrestrials may be waiting for humanity to evolve before making open contact.
- Governments already have UFO knowledge but may be withholding it for power reasons.
- Some extraterrestrial groups could be benevolent, while others may not have our best interests in mind.
- Consciousness and spiritual evolution may determine the nature of future contact.
- The key question: Will humanity approach contact with wisdom or recklessness?
Underground UFO Bases: Are Aliens Already Living Among Us?

Moderator: Dr. Steven Greer
Panelists: Bob Lazar, Ingo Swann, Makoto Akiyama, Travis Walton, Zecharia Sitchin
Dr. Steven Greer:
"Welcome, everyone. Today, we address a fascinating and controversial subject—the possibility of underground extraterrestrial bases on Earth.
For decades, governments have denied the existence of hidden UFO facilities, yet numerous whistleblowers, remote viewers, and experiencers claim otherwise. Some say UFOs don’t come from space at all, but from hidden locations beneath Earth’s surface or deep within our oceans.
To begin, I want to turn to Bob Lazar, who worked at S-4 near Area 51 and claims to have seen firsthand evidence of UFO reverse-engineering programs. Bob, based on what you experienced, do you think some UFOs are operating from underground bases?"
Bob Lazar:
"Absolutely. When I worked at S-4, I was tasked with reverse-engineering a gravity propulsion system from a craft that was not of human origin. The facility was built into the side of a mountain near Papoose Lake, Nevada, and was highly compartmentalized—only a few of us had access to specific parts of the project.
From what I saw, the craft I worked on was retrieved from an unknown source, possibly from an underground location. There were whispers among personnel that some UFOs were not 'crashed' but rather 'recovered' from existing bases beneath Earth.
While I don’t have direct proof of alien bases underground, I do believe the U.S. government is aware of locations where these crafts have been operating for centuries."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That aligns with many reports suggesting the military discovered, rather than developed, certain UFO technologies.
Now, let’s shift to Ingo Swann, one of the most respected remote viewers from the CIA’s Stargate Project. You remotely viewed hidden facilities—what did you discover about underground alien bases?"
Ingo Swann:
"My remote viewing sessions revealed multiple underground structures that defied explanation. I saw:
- Alien facilities beneath Antarctica, where advanced civilizations may have existed long before recorded history.
- Moon and Mars bases, possibly connected to operations on Earth.
- Underwater UFO activity in deep ocean trenches, particularly near the Puerto Rico Trench and the Mariana Trench.
One of the most shocking findings came when I remote viewed the Moon. I saw structures that looked like operational bases, and I sensed that the beings there were aware they were being observed. It was one of the few times I ever felt watched while remote viewing."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"This raises an interesting question—are we looking at extraterrestrials, or are these beings remnants of an ancient civilization that predates us?
This brings me to Makoto Akiyama. You have studied UFO activity in Japan, and Japan has many ancient legends about hidden beings and underground realms. Do you think these stories could be describing extraterrestrial bases?"
Makoto Akiyama:
"Yes, Japan has a long history of mystical underground worlds, which could be connected to extraterrestrial bases.
- The Agartha Theory: Some believe there is an advanced civilization living beneath the Earth, known as Agartha. Ancient Japanese texts speak of people emerging from underground realms with advanced knowledge.
- Mt. Fuji & Other Sacred Mountains: Many UFO sightings have occurred around Mt. Fuji, Mt. Tsukuba, and Mt. Asama. These locations have legends of hidden gateways leading to secret worlds.
- The 'Tengu' and 'Kami' Stories: Some Japanese myths describe beings who came from the sky, lived underground, and possessed advanced flying technology. Were these myths inspired by real extraterrestrial encounters?"
I believe extraterrestrial bases in Japan are likely hidden beneath sacred mountains or deep under the ocean near the Ryukyu Trench."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"This is fascinating because it connects to similar legends worldwide of beings living beneath the Earth.
Now, let’s move to Travis Walton, who was famously abducted by a UFO in 1975. Travis, during your experience, did you get any sense that the beings who took you might have had a base on Earth rather than being visitors from deep space?"
Travis Walton:
"When I was inside the craft, it felt like the beings were not entirely unfamiliar with Earth. I didn’t see anything that confirmed an underground base, but I did get the impression that:
- The craft I was on was not designed for long interstellar travel—it seemed more like a short-range craft.
- The beings operated with efficiency, as if they had done this before—perhaps many times.
- When I was returned, the craft left incredibly quickly, without an obvious exit trajectory into deep space. Could it have gone into the ocean or underground instead?"
While I can’t confirm it, I wouldn’t be surprised if some extraterrestrial craft operate from hidden bases on Earth rather than traveling from faraway star systems."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"This ties into the idea that some UFOs are not coming to Earth, but already here.
Now, let’s turn to Zecharia Sitchin. Your translations of Sumerian texts suggest that the Anunnaki lived on Earth and had hidden bases. Could these still exist today?"
Zecharia Sitchin:
"Absolutely. The ancient Sumerians wrote about 'gods' who lived among them in hidden places, often underground. Some key insights from Sumerian texts:
- The Anunnaki had subterranean cities where they mined for resources and stored knowledge.
- The Abzu (Underworld) was not just a myth—it may have been an actual base where the 'gods' retreated.
- If the Anunnaki were an advanced non-human civilization, they may still have hidden locations on Earth.
It’s possible that some modern UFO activity is connected to ancient bases that have been in operation for thousands of years."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That brings up an important point—if extraterrestrials have been living among us in underground or undersea bases, have they been influencing human events from the shadows?
Before we close, let’s go around and hear your final thoughts:
Do you believe underground UFO bases exist, and what should humanity do about them?"
Final Thoughts from Each Panelist:
- Bob Lazar: "I believe the U.S. government has knowledge of hidden bases and is actively studying their technology."
- Ingo Swann: "Remote viewing has shown underground structures that are not man-made. Some of these bases are occupied."
- Makoto Akiyama: "Japan’s ancient legends may be hinting at real underground UFO activity. We need to study these locations more seriously."
- Travis Walton: "Based on my experience, not all UFOs come from deep space—some may have been here all along."
- Zecharia Sitchin: "If the Anunnaki had bases on Earth thousands of years ago, why assume they ever left?"
Dr. Steven Greer (Closing Statement):
"Today’s discussion has revealed that underground extraterrestrial bases are not just science fiction—they are a real possibility backed by whistleblower testimonies, remote viewing, ancient texts, and modern UFO encounters.
If humanity truly wants to understand the UFO phenomenon, we must stop looking only at the skies—we should start looking beneath our feet and into our oceans.
Thank you all for this incredible discussion!"
Key Takeaways from This Discussion:
- Some UFOs may not come from space—they may originate from underground or underwater bases.
- Remote viewing has detected non-human structures beneath Earth's surface.
- Ancient legends suggest long-standing extraterrestrial presence in underground locations.
- Governments may already know about these bases and be studying them in secrecy.
- Understanding UFOs may require exploring Earth’s hidden places, not just deep space.
The UFO Economy: How Would Contact Change the Global Power Structure?

Moderator: Dr. Steven Greer
Panelists: Paul Hellyer, Bob Lazar, Tom Delonge, Graham Hancock
Dr. Steven Greer:
"Welcome, everyone. Today, we explore one of the least discussed but most critical aspects of UFO disclosure—its economic impact. If extraterrestrial technology—especially free energy, anti-gravity propulsion, and material replication—were revealed to the public, it would completely upend the global economic system.
Right now, our society is built on scarcity-based capitalism, where resources like oil, electricity, and metals determine financial and political power. But what happens when those resources become obsolete?
Let’s begin with Paul Hellyer, a former Canadian Minister of Defense, who has openly spoken about UFO secrecy and the suppression of free energy technology. Paul, how do you believe UFO technology would impact global economics?"
Paul Hellyer:
"Thank you, Dr. Greer. Based on the information I’ve gathered through military sources and high-level insiders, I believe that we already possess the technology to eliminate fossil fuels and revolutionize global energy.
However, this knowledge is being intentionally suppressed because the current economic system depends on scarcity. Governments, oil companies, and financial elites maintain control by limiting access to energy resources. If zero-point energy or anti-gravity propulsion were made public:
- The oil, gas, and coal industries would collapse overnight.
- Countries that depend on energy exports would lose economic power.
- Central banking systems would be forced to restructure because energy would be essentially free.
Right now, the people in power don’t want this change because it would end their ability to manipulate global economies through artificial scarcity. But in the long run, free energy would create unprecedented prosperity for humanity."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That’s a powerful point—scarcity creates control. If everyone had access to unlimited energy, the entire structure of capitalism and global finance would have to change.
Now, let’s turn to Bob Lazar, who worked at S-4 near Area 51 reverse-engineering UFO propulsion systems. Bob, from a technical standpoint, what kind of energy systems were you dealing with? And how would their release affect the global economy?"
Bob Lazar:
"When I worked at S-4, I was assigned to reverse-engineer the propulsion system of an extraterrestrial craft. What I saw defied everything we currently know about energy and physics. The craft utilized a gravity-manipulating reactor powered by Element 115—a substance that was not naturally occurring on Earth at the time.
If this technology were released, it would:
- Eliminate the need for fossil fuels and electric grids—cars, planes, and homes would be powered independently.
- Disrupt every transportation-based industry, including oil refineries, airlines, and shipping.
- Render many conventional technologies obsolete, forcing rapid industrial restructuring.
But here’s the issue—this technology is highly compartmentalized, meaning only a select few have access to it. The reason it hasn’t been released isn’t because it’s dangerous—it’s because it would shift too much economic power away from those who control the status quo."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That confirms what many whistleblowers have said—UFO technology is not just about space travel, but about energy and financial dominance.
Now, Tom Delonge, you’ve worked closely with government insiders through To The Stars Academy. You’ve argued that disclosure needs to happen gradually to prevent global instability. Why do you believe a sudden release of this technology could be dangerous?"
Tom Delonge:
"I agree that UFO technology will change everything, but the transition must be managed carefully. If disclosure happens too quickly, we risk:
- Economic Collapse – If the energy and transportation sectors collapse overnight, it could create mass job losses, instability, and civil unrest.
- Technological Monopoly – If only a few corporations or governments control UFO technology, they could weaponize it instead of using it for good.
- Geopolitical Chaos – Countries that lose power due to free energy could become desperate, leading to potential conflicts or new power struggles.
This is why governments are slowly leaking UFO information rather than revealing everything at once. The goal is to control the narrative and ensure a stable transition."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"So, you’re saying the danger isn’t the technology itself—it’s how humanity chooses to use it. That brings me to Graham Hancock, who has studied the rise and fall of ancient civilizations. Could there be lessons from the past that inform how we handle this transition?"
Graham Hancock:
"Yes, and this is where history is a warning.
Many ancient civilizations, like the Egyptians, Sumerians, and the lost civilization of Atlantis, seemed to have access to advanced energy systems. But time and again, we see a pattern:
- Societies that misused advanced knowledge eventually collapsed.
- Elites hoarded technology, leading to imbalance and eventual downfall.
- Disruptive changes led to mass confusion, often followed by war and disaster.
If we don’t handle this new era of technology wisely, we risk repeating the same mistakes. Instead of using it to uplift all of humanity, those in power may try to use it for control, weaponization, or suppression.
So, the question isn’t just how UFO technology will change the economy—it’s whether we have the wisdom and ethical maturity to use it responsibly."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That’s a crucial insight—technology itself isn’t good or bad, it’s how we implement it that matters.
Now, before we close, I’d like each of you to answer: What is the most important thing humanity must do to prepare for an economy based on free energy and UFO technology?"
Final Thoughts from Each Panelist:
- Paul Hellyer: "We must remove power from energy monopolies and ensure free energy is available to everyone, not just the elite."
- Bob Lazar: "Transparency is key. We must demand full disclosure and ensure independent scientists can study and develop these technologies."
- Tom Delonge: "We need a controlled, step-by-step disclosure to prevent economic collapse and global instability."
- Graham Hancock: "History has shown that power corrupts. We must establish ethical oversight to prevent this technology from being used for control or warfare."
Dr. Steven Greer (Closing Statement):
"This conversation has revealed that UFO technology is not just about aliens—it’s about the future of humanity’s economic, political, and technological structure.
If handled correctly, free energy and anti-gravity propulsion could eliminate poverty, create limitless abundance, and propel humanity into a new era of progress.
But if mismanaged, it could lead to conflict, monopolization, and the collapse of our current systems. The key to this transition is transparency, ethical responsibility, and a commitment to serving humanity rather than profit and control.
Thank you all for this critical discussion."
Key Takeaways from This Discussion:
- Free energy and UFO technology could revolutionize the economy, eliminating fossil fuels and scarcity.
- The current economic system is built on control through limited resources—disclosure threatens those in power.
- A sudden, uncontrolled release of UFO technology could destabilize global economies, leading to chaos.
- Historical civilizations may have misused similar technologies, leading to their downfall—we must learn from their mistakes.
- Ethical governance, scientific transparency, and global cooperation will determine whether this transition benefits all of humanity.
Are UFO Sightings Increasing? What’s Changing in the Sky?

Moderator: Dr. Steven Greer
Panelists: Jacques Vallée, Bob Lazar, Makoto Akiyama, Betty & Barney Hill (historical perspective), Travis Walton
Dr. Steven Greer:
"Welcome, everyone. Today, we examine an urgent and fascinating question—Are UFO sightings increasing, and if so, why?
Governments worldwide are slowly acknowledging UFOs, with declassified military reports and recorded encounters from credible sources making headlines. But is this a new phenomenon, or has it always been happening, with more people now paying attention?
To begin, let’s turn to Jacques Vallée, a pioneering UFO researcher who has studied patterns in sightings for decades. Jacques, based on your research, are UFO encounters increasing, or are we simply becoming more aware of them?"
Jacques Vallée:
"Thank you, Dr. Greer. My research shows that UFO sightings come in waves, often coinciding with major global events, technological advancements, or changes in human consciousness.
- 1940s & 1950s – The first major wave of modern UFO sightings, coinciding with nuclear testing and the beginning of the space age.
- 1970s & 1980s – Increased reports of alien abductions and close encounters.
- 2000s to Present – The rise of high-definition cameras, military disclosures, and widespread interest in disclosure.
Right now, we are experiencing another peak in UFO sightings, and I believe it’s happening for two key reasons:
- We are developing advanced technology, including AI and space-based defense systems, that may be attracting extraterrestrial attention.
- The global consciousness shift is making people more open to seeing what they previously ignored or dismissed.
In short, I believe UFO activity is responding to human progress. The more we evolve, the more they appear."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That’s an important insight, Jacques. The idea that UFO activity follows human technological milestones could explain why they are being seen around military sites, space programs, and scientific facilities.
Now, let’s turn to Bob Lazar, who worked at S-4 near Area 51. Bob, do you believe that some of the recent UFO sightings are extraterrestrial, or could they be reverse-engineered craft from human black projects?"
Bob Lazar:
"I think it’s a combination of both.
When I worked at S-4, I saw UFO propulsion technology that defied modern physics. That means the U.S. government—and possibly other nations—has had access to extraterrestrial craft for decades.
I believe some of the UFO sightings today are:
- Authentic extraterrestrial craft.
- Advanced human-made craft, possibly built using reverse-engineered technology.
- Drones and experimental military vehicles that resemble UFOs.
What’s interesting is that many sightings are reported near military bases, nuclear facilities, and restricted airspace. That suggests that either extraterrestrials are monitoring us, or governments are testing new technology in controlled areas.
Either way, it’s clear that something is happening on a large scale, and the increase in sightings is no coincidence."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That aligns with what many whistleblowers have said—that governments have both hidden knowledge of extraterrestrial craft and have developed their own versions.
Now, let’s turn to Makoto Akiyama. In Japan, there have been reports of increased UFO activity near **Mt. Fuji, the Pacific Ocean, and even Tokyo’s skies. Do you believe UFO sightings are increasing in Japan as well?"
Makoto Akiyama:
"Yes, UFO sightings have been increasing in Japan, particularly in coastal and mountainous regions. Some key cases:
- Mt. Fuji – There have been multiple UFO sightings near Japan’s most sacred mountain, leading to speculation that there may be an underground or undersea base nearby.
- Pacific Ocean – Fishermen and airline pilots report glowing objects emerging from the sea at high speeds, supporting the idea that some UFOs are coming from underwater.
- Tokyo Airspace – In 2023, Japanese airline pilots recorded unidentified lights moving in ways that defied flight physics.
In my opinion, the rise in sightings in Japan may be connected to increased military activity in the Pacific, the development of AI and quantum technology, and the possibility that some extraterrestrials are watching these advancements closely."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That’s fascinating, Makoto. It seems that military and industrial advancements are triggering UFO activity worldwide.
Now, let’s take a step back and look at historical cases. Betty & Barney Hill were among the first abductees to publicly share their experience. Their case was one of the first to bring widespread awareness to UFO activity. Betty, if you could reflect on your experience, do you think sightings have increased, or are people just more willing to come forward now?"
Betty Hill (Historical Perspective):
"Back in the 1960s, there was a lot of fear and stigma around UFO sightings. Many people didn’t report their experiences because they were afraid of being ridiculed.
My husband, Barney, and I were among the first to go public about being abducted, and it was a terrifying experience—not just the abduction, but also how people reacted.
Today, people have more access to cameras, scientific studies, and open discussions about UFOs. I think sightings have always happened at the same rate, but now, more people are willing to report them because they don’t feel as alone."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That’s a great point—the more we remove the stigma, the more reports come in.
Now, let’s turn to Travis Walton, whose abduction experience in 1975 remains one of the most well-documented cases. Travis, do you think extraterrestrials are deliberately increasing their visibility, or are we just documenting it better?"
Travis Walton:
"I believe extraterrestrials are becoming more visible on purpose.
When I was taken, I felt like they were studying us, but also testing how we react. I wasn’t harmed, but I was definitely not supposed to see what I saw.
Now, with modern technology, they can’t hide as easily. Their crafts are being recorded by:
- Military pilots (such as the Pentagon's "Tic Tac" UFO videos).
- Civilians with smartphones and high-definition cameras.
- Astronomers tracking unusual aerial phenomena.
I think we’re being slowly introduced to the reality that they exist. The question is, why now?"
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That’s the question we need to ask—why now? Are extraterrestrials revealing themselves more because they feel humanity is ready? Or are we doing something that has caught their attention?
Before we wrap up, let’s go around and ask: What do you think is the most likely reason UFO sightings are increasing?"
Final Thoughts from Each Panelist:
- Jacques Vallée: "UFO waves follow human technological progress—the more we advance, the more they appear."
- Bob Lazar: "Some sightings are reverse-engineered human technology, while others are true extraterrestrial encounters."
- Makoto Akiyama: "Japan’s increase in sightings suggests UFOs may have undersea or underground bases we are just beginning to understand."
- Betty Hill: "People are less afraid to report sightings now—UFOs have always been here."
- Travis Walton: "I believe extraterrestrials are deliberately revealing themselves more—maybe they are preparing us for something bigger."
Dr. Steven Greer (Closing Statement):
"Today’s discussion has made one thing clear—UFO sightings are increasing, and the reasons may be more complex than we think.
Are they responding to our technological progress?
Are they watching military developments?
Or are they preparing for open contact?
Whatever the reason, one thing is certain—we are entering an era where UFO secrecy can no longer be maintained. The next step is for humanity to decide how we respond.
Thank you all for this discussion."
Key Takeaways from This Discussion:
- UFO sightings appear in waves, often linked to human technological progress.
- Military pilots and civilians are recording more UFOs than ever before.
- Some sightings may be human-made, reverse-engineered craft.
- Japan and coastal areas report UFOs emerging from the ocean, hinting at undersea bases.
- Extraterrestrials may be deliberately revealing themselves more—possibly preparing us for open contact.
Are Humans a Hybrid Species? The Genetic Manipulation Theory

Moderator: Dr. Steven Greer
Panelists: Zecharia Sitchin, Dolores Cannon, Betty & Barney Hill (historical perspective), Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, Bob Lazar
Dr. Steven Greer:
"Welcome, everyone. Today, we discuss one of the most controversial yet intriguing questions in the UFO field—Are humans a hybrid species?
Ancient texts, abductee testimonies, and whistleblower reports suggest that extraterrestrials may have altered human DNA in the past and might still be involved in genetic experiments today. Could the sudden advancements in human civilization be due to outside intervention?
Let’s begin with Zecharia Sitchin, who spent years studying Sumerian texts that describe gods—possibly extraterrestrials—genetically modifying humans. Zecharia, based on your research, is there evidence that humans were created by advanced beings?"
Zecharia Sitchin:
"Yes, absolutely. My research into ancient Sumerian tablets reveals stories about the Anunnaki, a group of extraterrestrial beings who came to Earth thousands of years ago. According to these texts:
- The Anunnaki genetically modified early humans, combining their own DNA with that of primitive hominins.
- They did this to create a labor force—the first humans were engineered to serve their 'gods.'
- Early humans had limited intelligence and lifespans, but over time, the Anunnaki made adjustments, leading to the rapid advancement of civilization.
If this is true, it means humanity did not evolve naturally—we were deliberately designed, possibly with built-in genetic restrictions. The question now is, are extraterrestrials still influencing our DNA today?"
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That’s a fascinating perspective, Zecharia. The idea that an advanced civilization 'created' humans is echoed in many ancient traditions.
Now, let’s turn to Dolores Cannon, who spent decades using hypnosis to recover lost memories of people who believe they have extraterrestrial origins. Dolores, do modern abductees recall experiences that support this hybridization theory?"
Dolores Cannon:
"Yes, many people who came to me under deep hypnosis revealed memories of being part of an ongoing extraterrestrial genetic experiment.
- Some claim to have memories of living on other planets before incarnating as humans.
- Many describe being taken aboard spacecraft and subjected to medical procedures focused on reproductive and genetic testing.
- Others feel an overwhelming sense of not fully belonging to Earth, as if they are part of a hybrid lineage meant to help humanity evolve.
This suggests that extraterrestrials are still modifying human DNA, possibly to prepare for a future transformation of the species."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"This aligns with reports from many abductees who describe strange hybrid children, genetic experiments, and a deep sense of being connected to non-human beings.
Now, let’s go to Betty & Barney Hill, one of the earliest publicized alien abduction cases. Betty, your case involved medical examinations—do you think genetic manipulation was involved?"
Betty Hill (Historical Perspective):
"Yes, absolutely. When Barney and I were taken aboard the craft, we were subjected to medical tests that focused heavily on reproduction and genetics.
- The beings took skin, hair, and reproductive samples.
- They showed me a 'star map'—suggesting that they came from another planetary system.
- When I asked why they were studying us, they told me they were monitoring human genetics over generations.
At the time, I didn’t understand it, but looking back, it seems clear that they were tracking and possibly altering human DNA."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"This suggests a long-term genetic program, spanning generations.
Now, let’s turn to Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, the former president of Kalmykia, Russia. You claim to have been taken aboard an alien craft—did they give you any insights into why they are interested in humans?"
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov:
"Yes, in 1997, I was taken aboard a spacecraft and communicated telepathically with extraterrestrial beings. They told me:
- They have been observing humans for thousands of years.
- They are interested in human emotions, creativity, and spiritual evolution.
- They have interacted with select individuals throughout history to help guide human progress.
They did not tell me directly that they altered our DNA, but their interest in our biology and consciousness suggests that they may have played a role in shaping who we are today."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"That’s a crucial point—if extraterrestrials have been guiding us, the next question is: Do we have full control over our own evolution, or is someone else directing it?
Now, let’s turn to Bob Lazar. You worked with reverse-engineered alien technology at S-4 near Area 51. Did you ever hear discussions of extraterrestrials being involved in human genetics?"
Bob Lazar:
"While my work at S-4 was focused on propulsion systems, not biology, there were always rumors among personnel that extraterrestrials had been here longer than we thought.
- I heard claims that some recovered craft were found buried underground, implying they had been here for thousands of years.
- Some discussions suggested that certain classified programs were focused on genetic research, possibly involving non-human DNA.
- I don’t have direct proof, but based on what I saw, it wouldn’t surprise me if extraterrestrials have had a hand in shaping human evolution."
Dr. Steven Greer:
"This raises the ultimate question—if extraterrestrials have been involved in human genetics, are they preparing us for something? A future shift in consciousness? A return to space? Or something else entirely?
Before we close, let’s go around and ask: What is the most compelling evidence that humans are a hybrid species?"
Final Thoughts from Each Panelist:
- Zecharia Sitchin: "Ancient Sumerian texts clearly describe extraterrestrials modifying human DNA—this is written history, not speculation."
- Dolores Cannon: "Many abductees recall memories of being part of an ongoing genetic program—their experiences cannot be ignored."
- Betty Hill: "My own abduction experience involved medical procedures that suggest genetic tracking."
- Kirsan Ilyumzhinov: "Extraterrestrials told me they have been watching humanity for thousands of years, which implies an ongoing interest in our development."
- Bob Lazar: "While I never worked on biological research, the idea that extraterrestrials have been here for thousands of years is consistent with what I saw at S-4."
Dr. Steven Greer (Closing Statement):
"This discussion has revealed that there is a compelling amount of evidence suggesting that humans may be the result of an extraterrestrial genetic experiment.
- Ancient texts describe 'gods' modifying human DNA.
- Modern abductees recall genetic procedures and hybridization.
- Whistleblowers suggest that extraterrestrials have been here for thousands of years.
- Governments may be aware of this and studying the implications in secret.
If this is true, we must ask: What is the end goal of this experiment? Are we being prepared for something greater, or are we still in the early stages of an evolution we don’t fully understand?
Thank you all for this incredible discussion."
Key Takeaways from This Discussion:
- Ancient Sumerian texts suggest extraterrestrials modified human DNA.
- Abductees report experiences that support ongoing hybridization programs.
- Governments may already be aware of human-extraterrestrial genetic links.
- If true, we must ask—what is the purpose of this genetic intervention?
- Are humans being prepared for a shift in consciousness or a return to space?
Final Thoughts by Dr. Steven Greer
Over the course of these discussions, we have explored some of the most profound and controversial questions regarding UFOs, extraterrestrial contact, and the hidden forces shaping our world.
What we’ve uncovered is clear: humanity stands at a crossroads.
- If extraterrestrial civilizations have been watching us, what are they waiting for?
- If governments have suppressed advanced UFO technology, who truly controls our future?
- If our DNA has been influenced by non-human intelligences, what does that mean for who we are—and who we are becoming?
These are not just theoretical debates; they are real-world issues that will determine the future of energy, technology, global power structures, and even human evolution.
We must demand transparency from those in power. We must take control of our own contact experiences instead of waiting for governments to reveal what they already know. And above all, we must prepare for the reality that we are not alone—nor have we ever been.
The question is no longer whether extraterrestrial life exists, but how humanity will choose to engage with it.
Will we approach it with wisdom, curiosity, and a spirit of cooperation?
Or will we allow fear, secrecy, and control to dictate the narrative?
The future is not written. It is up to us to decide.
Thank you all for being part of this conversation. The truth is no longer out there—it is here, waiting to be acknowledged.
Short Bios:
Dr. Steven Greer – A former emergency room physician turned leading UFO researcher and founder of the Disclosure Project. He has worked extensively to reveal government secrecy surrounding extraterrestrials and developed CE-5 protocols for human-initiated contact.
Bob Lazar – A whistleblower who claims to have worked at S-4 near Area 51, where he was assigned to reverse-engineer extraterrestrial propulsion systems. His revelations about Element 115 and anti-gravity technology have fueled debates about secret government UFO programs.
Jacques Vallée – A respected scientist and UFO researcher who proposes that UFOs may be interdimensional rather than purely extraterrestrial. He has studied historical patterns of sightings and their potential connections to human consciousness.
Paul Hellyer – Former Canadian Minister of Defense who publicly stated that multiple extraterrestrial species are interacting with Earth and that governments are withholding advanced technologies that could revolutionize society.
Tom Delonge – Former Blink-182 musician turned UFO researcher, founder of To The Stars Academy, which works with former government officials to release classified UFO information in a controlled disclosure process.
Graham Hancock – An investigative journalist and best-selling author who explores the possibility that ancient civilizations had contact with extraterrestrial intelligence, leading to lost advanced knowledge and technologies.
Dolores Cannon – A hypnotherapist and past-life regressionist who uncovered stories of alien abductions, hybridization programs, and pre-incarnation soul agreements with extraterrestrials through hypnosis sessions.
Zecharia Sitchin – A scholar and author who translated ancient Sumerian texts, proposing that the Anunnaki, a group of extraterrestrials, genetically modified early humans to create modern civilization.
Makoto Akiyama – A Japanese UFO researcher specializing in Asian UFO encounters, underground bases, and historical accounts of extraterrestrial contact, including legends tied to sacred mountains and the Pacific Ocean.
Betty & Barney Hill – Their 1961 abduction case was the first widely publicized alien abduction story, featuring missing time, hypnosis-recovered memories, and an alleged star map shown to Betty by extraterrestrials.
Travis Walton – A well-documented UFO abductee whose 1975 case involved being taken aboard a spacecraft for several days before being returned. His story remains one of the most famous alien abduction cases in history.
Ingo Swann – A remote viewer involved in the CIA’s Stargate Project, who allegedly used psychic techniques to observe extraterrestrial bases on the Moon, Mars, and hidden locations on Earth.
David Icke – A controversial researcher who claims that interdimensional entities have manipulated human history, suggesting that some UFO encounters may be related to non-human influences on global power structures.
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov – Former president of Kalmykia, Russia, who publicly stated that he was taken aboard an extraterrestrial spacecraft in 1997, where he communicated telepathically with aliens who revealed their observations of Earth.
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